The Ultimate Guide to Success with Women

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I talked to guys who are getting laid a lot in 2023, here's how they are meeting women.

JusSayin

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It checks out. Recently Tinder has been most of my leads. You just need to look good and have extremely good photos.
 

MatureDJ

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No one is better than John Banner (Schultz):

I remember being in Germany, and (this was in the days before WIFI) being a bit bored, I turned on the TV, and this show was on. Yes, it was a native-German-speaking actor playing Colonel Klink speaking English with a heavy German accent, then dubbed into German. :p
 

Solomon

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It's interesting that there are so many glowing remarks about online dating in this thread, when usually all I've heard on this site is guys complaining about it. "The girls get all the interest, guys get nothing", etc. Just as a casual observer though, it does appear that most people these days rely on OLD for dates. I've never used it in my life, personally.
'OLD is great if you're handsome guy or a guy who knows how to hack the system (I use to be able to do this until Quarantine)
OLD is truly easy if you know the type of women that you want and how to get them to respond
My issue with OLD now is that the quality is severely trash
You're better of meeting women IRL
 

Solomon

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Some guys here be like: It's easy for top-tier men.

Yea, and water is wet.
Hey I'm guilty of this but as a guy striving to be a "Top-Tier" man my best advice is like @CornbreadFed work on the things you can change your body, money etc. I've noticed this as well once I started losing the weight my results began to improve a lot
 

CheekyMonkey101

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'OLD is great if you're handsome guy or a guy who knows how to hack the system (I use to be able to do this until Quarantine)
OLD is truly easy if you know the type of women that you want and how to get them to respond
My issue with OLD now is that the quality is severely trash
You're better of meeting women IRL
Admittedly I'm pretty out of practice with meeting women IRL. I've relied on it pretty much almost solely since 2014.
 

kavi

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So is any guy here meeting quality LTR worthy chicks on OLD or is OLD just for hookups now.

I think its interesting if OLD (Tinder, etc) are just hookup apps now. It could be related to the death of LTRs.

I wanna know if anyone got LTRs off OLD?
 

CheekyMonkey101

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So is any guy here meeting quality LTR worthy chicks on OLD or is OLD just for hookups now.

I think its interesting if OLD (Tinder, etc) are just hookup apps now. It could be related to the death of LTRs.

I wanna know if anyone got LTRs off OLD?
Tinder used to be just a hook up app. It's now more diverse.

I have had a few LTRs from online. It can work.
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

SW15

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You're better of meeting women IRL
I have come to the same conclusion. Over the years, I have made efforts using swipe apps and online dating website (prior to swipe apps). I found both formats inefficient and ineffective. While they helped boost the quantity of dates I went on, they produced more low quality dates that were a waste of time and effort.

Psychologically, I find that doing things in the real world is better for my overall mindset.
 

Pierce Manhammer

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'OLD is great if you're handsome guy or a guy who knows how to hack the system (I use to be able to do this until Quarantine)
OLD is truly easy if you know the type of women that you want and how to get them to respond
My issue with OLD now is that the quality is severely trash IN MY COUNTRY, TOWN AND IN MY EXPERIENCE
You're better of meeting women IRL
There fixed it for you. That should be added to every post everyone makes about anything here.

How it is everyone expects everything to be the same is beyond me. There are just too many variables to be able to make sweeping statements without caveats.
 

Dr.Suave

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So is any guy here meeting quality LTR worthy chicks on OLD or is OLD just for hookups now.
Las time I used OLD was late 2021 and it was great in my town and experience. These days, I dont know.
 

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There fixed it for you. That should be added to every post everyone makes about anything here.

How it is everyone expects everything to be the same is beyond me. There are just too many variables to be able to make sweeping statements without caveats.
I thought what is understood doesn't need to be said?
I clearly was talking about my experience(MY ISSUE, I didn't say the forums issue or the world issue, I said MY in terms of me as an individual), I don't expect a guy who lives in Chicago, New York or Istanbul to have the same experience as me
 

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I guess my reason for doing it has more to do with the fact that we’re dealing with a lot of young impressionable minds here. And sometimes things need to be said blatantly. In order to get the message across clearly.

So much of what we discuss here is location and culture dependent, but we act as if it is NOT in normal conversation assuming that everybody is following with that understanding.

I thought what is understood doesn't need to be said?
I clearly was talking about my experience(MY ISSUE, I didn't say the forums issue or the world issue, I said MY in terms of me as an individual), I don't expect a guy who lives in Chicago, New York or Istanbul to have the same experience as me
 

Manure Spherian

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I wanna know if anyone got LTRs off OLD?
I met my wife years ago on an online dating site, not on the apps we have today.

Two of my female cousins, now married with children, met their husbands on Tinder.

Two of my close friends met their women (pretty much second marriages without government papers) from Bumble. One of them has his second child with one.

An acquaintance of mine met his girlfriend on an app.
 

BoostedArrow

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Hey I'm guilty of this but as a guy striving to be a "Top-Tier" man my best advice is like @CornbreadFed work on the things you can change your body, money etc. I've noticed this as well once I started losing the weight my results began to improve a lot
Sure, but sometimes your possibilities are limited. If someone's autistic, he won't have super-duper bulletproof game. So there needs to be advice on how he still can get laid.
With your body you can do a lot, like not being fckin fat. But getting extremely big, in terms of muscles, is not always easy.
And money: For guys that are well over 30 I don't see great chances to break out of their salary range when their career is already set. (I dunno though) For me it's alright, since I'm doing a good engineering degree and am aware of the things I have to pay attention to. So I can probably expect a better income than average.

So what are guys doing that are stuck in certain aspects? Advice like "Just be alpha bro" doesn't help there.
 

Blacksheep

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Cold approach works really fine for me when Im just direct and on parties.

Not always end up with sex, sometimes yes and some no.

But what works in that case is being quite direct.

I just came and say hi, asked her name... Say she is good looking and would like to kiss her. Some play some games, and if you insist a bit you get it... It seems to me that being direct to the point shows some kind confidence.

If she is not interested, I just say that was nice to meet her and leave.

Also I do cold approach without the need of alcohol, so I dont look like a freaky drunk guy approaching women.

And what I observed on parties is that the guys that try really hard to have the best conversations or the best game, end up frustrated.

Taking care of your body and look matters too. The more I improve my appearance the easier it gets. To the point that in some occasions some women approach me.

The bad thing about cold approach on parties is that it will be hard to end up with sex compared to OLD. I think its way easier when you meet someone online and can schedule a date on a restaurant or even at your place.

I would not try to apply cold approach like that in other environments rather than parties or clubs.

I also have lot of datings on OLD too. I like to use Facebook instead of Instagram and it works quite good. The suggestions on facebook helps to find some interesting women.

The only thing that I dont like that much with OLD or cold approaching on parties is that its hard to find a keeper. So yeah, its great for casual dating/sex... But finding a good woman to invest its difficult. Maybe because of that modern society or maybe because there would be better places to meet women for LTR.
 

Manure Spherian

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Advice like "Just be alpha bro" doesn't help there.
It might not, considering the following men men cannot be “out-alphad,” but were nevertheless publicly punked or left by their women:

Bill Gates
Brad Pitt
Will Smith
Tom Brady
Ben Affleck
Jeff Bezos
Vladimir Putin


For me it's alright, since I'm doing a good engineering degree and am aware of the things I have to pay attention to. So I can probably expect a better income than average.
If you are not socially stunted and you have such a profession and you’re alright looking, you’ll be attractive to enough women these days.
 

Never try to read a woman's mind. It is a scary place. Ignore her confusing signals and mixed messages. Assume she is interested in you and act accordingly.

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