I talked to guys who are getting laid a lot in 2023, here's how they are meeting women.

[Bingo-Player]

This is nonsense ive been on 3 swipe app dates this year all of them were between a 6 & 7 ranging between 24 & 27

All 3 of them were insufferable , I am easy to get along with but these women were HARD FVCKING WORK and within about 10 mins of meeting them it was quite clear why they were single and will continue to be single for the rest of eternity

Strangely I noticed a common theme through all 3 of them UNREALISTIC EXPECTATION

On paper and in reality these girls were VERY average women they had very very little going for them and I don't think they realised the kind of competition they are up against in the real world

Conversely the two girls I was banging this summer I got from cold approach both were laid back & easy going (which is why we got on)

They both put out very quickly for me and were happy to please me

they were A LOT less work than any girl ive ever encountered on a swipe app



I have no doubt you can use swipe apps to meet women , wether they are the types of women a man ( especially a man who knows how the game & women work ) wants to be meeting is an entirely different question

 

[BillyPilgrim]

This is nonsense ive been on 3 swipe app dates this year all of them were between a 6 & 7 ranging between 24 & 27

All 3 of them were insufferable , I am easy to get along with but these women were HARD FVCKING WORK and within about 10 mins of meeting them it was quite clear why they were single and will continue to be single for the rest of eternity

Strangely I noticed a common theme through all 3 of them UNREALISTIC EXPECTATION

On paper and in reality these girls were VERY average women they had very very little going for them and I don't think they realised the kind of competition they are up against in the real world

Conversely the two girls I was banging this summer I got from cold approach both were laid back & easy going (which is why we got on)

They both put out very quickly for me and were happy to please me

they were A LOT less work than any girl ive ever encountered on a swipe app



I have no doubt you can use swipe apps to meet women , wether they are the types of women a man ( especially a man who knows how the game & women work ) wants to be meeting is an entirely different question

Which app(s)?

 

[Bingo-Player]

Which app(s)?

Mainly hinge I don't use any of the others too time consuming

Bumble - feminist / woke women who believe they sh1t gold , also think that women having to select and message you first is a recipe for distaster

"pick me miss ""I'm a good little boy pls Cani have sum pu$$y"

Tinder - a laughing stock for both sexes now actually embarrassing to be seen on there

 

[Gamisch]

Over the past year, I have had the chance to talk to guys who are getting laid a lot in 2023, I mean having a date every other day that turns into a lay or getting laid multiple times a week. Here is how they are meeting women.

Online dating is a clear cut number one.

I hate to say it, online dating wins by a country mile. The threshold has gotten higher but at the same time, the guys who meet that threshold now are getting a larger share of the pie. I mean it is almost unreal how easy the guys who are getting regular matches on the apps have it. The thing is, some of these guys are not great looking as much as they are great at putting up the right kinds of photos with the right kinds of filters and quality. I think a guy with the right profile for the dating apps could get 100+ lays in a year if he wanted.

If I had to identify the player of 2023, he is either someone who has a really good photographer for the dating apps or he is someone that happens to be looksmaxxed (gym, shredded, etc.) and on the apps.

By far, this is the most efficient and easy way to get laid if you can master it. I tried a pro photographer and it did not work. However, you can also get a lot of quality online and the hottest girls are on the apps and matching with dudes.

A few have got into Instagram game.

I hate guys like Michael Sartain hyping up Instagram game more than the next guy but in some cases, it unfortunately works. I call it the Instagram and the whole club promoter route. Basically these guys use their IGs to show that they are always in fancy places, have up quality pics, take a gig as either a club promoter or something niche (photographer), and also throw a lot of events that they invite women to (photoshoots for example). A ton of work from the outside looking in but hey, it freaking works. I will not go down this route because these guys sometimes operate on no sleep.

I have not met anyone getting laid regularly through cold approach.

If I had to put a number on it, maybe guys who do cold approach get 3 lays a month max and that is if they are really advanced. I do cold approach to push myself but if I had to have a strategy in mind, I say use cold approach to get the women you do not match with on the apps or on Instagram.

People claim that you can get higher quality via cold approach, I disagree. I often find that most girls, like 95% of them in a bar, are 6s with the occasional 7. Then you have the other 5% who can be 8s and up but they usually come with boyfriends or in a large impenetrable group.

Same with daygame, despite living in Miami and @IKO69 can check me on this, you don't really see that many 8s 9s and 10s out consistently during the day. You might occasionally run into one but they are not that common even in a city like Miami during the day.

I do it because I have grown a lot from it but I have not met anyone who consistently gets laid from it, at least not to the level guys doing IG game or online dating are.

Oke.

So now you kinda admit that endlessly cold approaching women might ( MIGHT) also be a tad too much. As a wise man called Freddy once sung: too much of anything can kill ya. Physically, spiritually, financially, morally ect. Imo it's a low vibration activity , one that could amd should be done, BUT moderate and with caution.

You want to find ways to become efficient with whatever it is you are doing right? In OP's case he did definitely learned how to carry a conversation with a woman at any given time, how to approach them, how to screen ect. But at some point you MIGHT wanna adjust your goals in life.

Again OP, I exactly salute you, but dont ever get it twisted homie: I've done countless of approaches before I even knew about sosauve. Now ,that tought me a couple of things
- the women who are most likely to respond are the most problematic
-to elaborate to the previous point: it increases the likelihood to get troublesome women.
-OLD definitely changed the landscape
-at some point it becomes an (expensive) addiction
- you can feck a million different women, at the end of the day if tou have nothing to show for it doesn't matter

Hi I'm pookie rayray mixed with some Tyrone energy. Wished someone would slap me in the face when I was spending all my time chasing tail. Yes ,I eventually imprinted a couple of crazy Jezebels who're still bothering me to this day. But I'd rather use that time energy and money to become a master at whatever skill I am intrigued by.

Just my personal opinion/vision on this. No knock ,but just a reminder to self.

Shalom.

 

[pipeman84]

It seems likely that those women are just using Tinder for s3x on tap from guys just like a guy wud pick a prostitute for a night from a lineup from photos, that is not Game from the guys perspective, it is just being chosen by women for ONS.

Very well said.

I've done countless of approaches before I even knew about sosauve. Now ,that tought me a couple of things
- the women who are most likely to respond are the most problematic
-to elaborate to the previous point: it increases the likelihood to get troublesome women.

100% this. You're confirming a point that I've repeatedly made on SS, namely: it's highly unlikely that a clinically sane woman is going to be amenable to the kind of cold approach advertised by PUAs ... street, mall and grocery store.

 

[kavi]

vibration

Shalom.

It's all vibrations my bro

 

[Manure Spherian]

So what are those hookups happening with women who just wanna get laid on Tinder? Im saying are those women just down for ONS type thing?

Bruh none of this is Game or being a player, its just women are looking for one night stands and guys are obliging and the only thing that makes you think this is 'Game' or being a player is that the guy is having to jump through a couple of hoops or some form of screening.

It seems likely that those women are just using Tinder for s3x on tap from guys just like a guy wud pick a prostitute for a night from a lineup from photos, that is not Game from the guys perspective, it is just being chosen by women for ONS.

That is the lowest behaviour from women and I find it disgusting and ofcourse those men are either young or very low self-esteem to put themselves out there like that but I dont expect much better from such a degen society as the modern world has created.

But its very usefuly and good that you put this information out there. The men reporting how much they are getting laid is the only informatino we have on what women are doing online for quick cheap s3x.

From what you just said, it appears to be the most efficient way of getting what its users want.

Plenty of men complain about the female behavior you mentioned, yet if measures were taken to curb it, most apps and game would be rendered worthless.

 

[kavi]

From what you just said, it appears to be the most efficient way of getting what its users want.

Plenty of men complain about the female behavior you mentioned, yet if measures were taken to curb it, most apps and game would be rendered worthless.

Look bro, its like this...

If women are cool with random hookups from TInder then they shouldnt want LTRs, love or positive emotional relationships.

There can ONLY be one type of relationships, only ONE WAY of getting laid. If sex is for ****bois on Tinder then it is ONLY for them, then women shouldnt expect marriage, LTRs or positive romantic relationships.

If they want the latter, sex can ONLY go to the latter.

The laws of love, sex, romance, happiness, morals are deeply woven into the fabirc of the universe and no one can try to scam or manipualte them.

The women think they can get away with it and people wont know, cos Tinder is anonymous etc, but God is all-knowing, or Varuna is all-seeing, this is why the acnient always said God is all-seeing and all-knowing.

Now, it should be clear and known why positive relationships are not happening, cos one way or another, men figured it out, why be a good person and work hard and provide to get laid when guys are getting it for free from Tinder.

Women thought they were being clever and 'playing the game' but instead they they are just playing themselves and now they are ALL upset they cannot get happiness, love, meaningful relationships, instead they have poverty, anxiety, loneliness and ****bois.

 

[mbc0029]

Good social skills and good OLD skills.

If you have both of those, getting laid itself shouldn't be an issue. It'd be a matter of turning it on and off (effort).

If I only have to pick one, I'd go with social skills, but combine with OLD skills, and you're gold.

 

[anonymous12345]

Good social skills and good OLD skills.

If you have both of those, getting laid itself shouldn't be an issue. It'd be a matter of turning it on and off (effort).

If I only have to pick one, I'd go with social skills, but combine with OLD skills, and you're gold.

Yeah boi. This is my goal. Clock is ticking, but I'm gonna start a new Tinder account on a new phone and try to get better matches.

 

[TheManMasenko]

True, OLD is decent. Quality is trash, but the input vs. output is very favorable since you don't have to go outside and put yourself out there.

IG/Social game is good, you just need to have something pre-built. I don't think it's worth investing in though for the average man. You can do more valuable things with your time.

I acquire most of my women from a cold approach/social circle. I think it's the best.

 

[TheManMasenko]

Why would somebody want to get laid with a piece of trash??

I don't know.

When I used OLD I tend to get the feeling "I'd never talk to you under normal circumstances".

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

Guys I know who got laid on a regular basis with OLD were banging 5s and down. Most guy don't care about quality, they will bang pretty much anything but hot girls.

what type of girls looks wise are going to be on OLD though? Its gotta be full of 5-6s

At least thats what I saw when i dabbled in it.

Theres no free lunch in this world homie.

Both of these are cope. I've seen many beautiful women on Hinge. Some of the most attractive I've ever seen in my area. In fact, the majority of the women I see on there are 7+

OLD is the way to go nowadays, I'm not sure why that's so hard for people to accept.

 

[Millard Fillmore]

I believe it about OLD. Nothing wrong with racking up quick notches. On the other hand it won't teach very well how to handle women but that all depends on what the guy is seeking.

 

[SW15]

True, OLD is decent. Quality is trash, but the input vs. output is very favorable since you don't have to go outside and put yourself out there.

That's the illusion of efficiency. It's easy to believe in using tech-based date arranging methods because you're sitting at home in your underwear/comfortable clothing and swiping/messaging. Doing this starts to look really good if you do something like go to the mall, 1-2 grocery stores, or outdoors for 1-3 hours and don't arrange any dates.

IG/Social game is good, you just need to have something pre-built. I don't think it's worth investing in though for the average man. You can do more valuable things with your time.

I acquire most of my women from a cold approach/social circle. I think it's the best.

Instagram game isn't easy. You need to have more Followers than Following to get responses to your DMs. There also needs to be a certain threshold of Followers, usually above 1,000. A guy with 30 Followers and 25 Following has the correct ratio, but he's a nobody because of counts.

You could buy Followers for the purposes of getting your counts up to impress women and up your DM response ratio, but there are even issues with this.

It's difficult for men to gain Followers on Instagram. For a woman, it is easy. Post some bikini pics and watch the Followers roll in.

Offline social circles can take years to build. That's difficult to deal with when you have a more immediate sexual need. The men I've seen succeed with social circle game as adults usually built their social circles by living in the same area in the K-12 years and then staying in that area as adults. A lot of those relationships go all the way back to childhood and pre-puberty. It's easy to have some females in your social circle as adults when you went to elementary school with her and your parents are still friends with her parents from the elementary school connection.

OLD is the way to go nowadays, I'm not sure why that's so hard for people to accept.

The typical man has a lousy experience on the swipe apps. Tinder is about 75% male and Bumble/Hinge are about 65% male. Those are flat out sausage fests. Those are the kind of ratios you'd get from a bad nightlife venue or a dayclub with a pool party/DJ.

You also have entitled Millennial females experiencing an abundance of options. The abundance of options + self-esteem centered 1990s/2000s Boomer era parenting makes your typical Millennial on an app believe that she's a special snowflake entitled to only the absolute best men. All other men outside the 90th percentile are not desirable to her. As Millennial women are aging into middle age, Gen Z women are continuing many of these trends.

 

[EyeBRollin]

My wife and I have met some really nice single girls in church. There’s no single men in church anymore. Might be worth a look.

I cleaned up on the apps. They were easy once you had good photos.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

That's the illusion of efficiency. It's easy to believe in using tech-based date arranging methods because you're sitting at home in your underwear/comfortable clothing and swiping/messaging. Doing this starts to look really good if you do something like go to the mall, 1-2 grocery stores, or outdoors for 1-3 hours and don't arrange any dates.




The typical man has a lousy experience on the swipe apps. Tinder is about 75% male and Bumble/Hinge are about 65% male. Those are flat out sausage fests. Those are the kind of ratios you'd get from a bad nightlife venue or a dayclub with a pool party/DJ.

You also have entitled Millennial females experiencing an abundance of options. The abundance of options + self-esteem centered 1990s/2000s Boomer era parenting makes your typical Millennial on an app believe that she's a special snowflake entitled to only the absolute best men. All other men outside the 90th percentile are not desirable to her. As Millennial women are aging into middle age, Gen Z women are continuing many of these trends.

Of course, but the typical man also doesn't try because he's too cool for it. I remain convinced the reason most men struggle isn't just because of their average looks/height but because they have awful photos/bios.

On another note, obviously OLD causes female delusion, I have no rebuttal to that.

 

[SW15]

There’s no single men in church anymore.

There's no single men in church anymore because there are no single women in church anymore.

If you observe the attendees of Sunday services in the Christian faiths (both Catholics and Protestant denominations), it is mainly older (45+) people with some younger families mixed in.

I remain convinced the reason most men struggle isn't just because of their average looks/height but because they have awful photos/bios.

I think a lot of men have problems with the photos/bios part of swipe apps. The bios are mainly meaningless but the photos/videos part is not meaningless. There was even a time where I got my photos for the swipe apps re-done by a professional photographer and it made very little difference on my outcomes. I got a few more matches and maybe a few more "1 date, no sex, no second date" type interactions.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

Oh yes there are! But we never match with them unfortunately, lots of fake accounts too.

I match with the 7+ women quite often and while they're definitely more flakey/fickle I do occassionally land dates if not at least their #. I could record a video and upload it if ya'll really don't believe me.

There's no single men in church anymore because there are no single women in church anymore.

If you observe the attendees of Sunday services in the Christian faiths (both Catholics and Protestant denominations), it is mainly older (45+) people with some younger families mixed in.



I think a lot of men have problems with the photos/bios part of swipe apps. The bios are mainly meaningless but the photos/videos part is not meaningless. There was even a time where I got my photos for the swipe apps re-done by a professional photographer and it made very little difference on my outcomes. I got a few more matches and maybe a few more "1 date, no sex, no second date" type interactions.

I would be curious to see them. It's not just about having good quality but the story they tell. If you have a simp photographer your photos may come off that way.

 

[anonymous12345]

The typical man has a lousy experience on the swipe apps. Tinder is about 75% male and Bumble/Hinge are about 65% male. Those are flat out sausage fests. Those are the kind of ratios you'd get from a bad nightlife venue or a dayclub with a pool party/DJ.

So where the hell are the girls? If OLD is sausage fests, much of night life is too, where do they flock? In my country people have plenty of ONS according to stats, but I can't figure out where to meet these girls.