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i am 25 years old and engaged to a girl who is nice and sweet to me but likes to joke around with guys not alot but she does joke. i really have a problem with jelousy and just being paranoid bc of what happened with me in the past. I have been cheated on alot by one girl and i told myself never to trust a women ever again. I also have been stabbed in the back by my friends bc i am not fun enough and now i have no friends to joke around with or hangout with. i am starting to get really bad mood changes like she was talking with her ex and she was joking around and i saw stuff like having sex and loving you and blowing kisses and i just lost it and went crazy i almost wanted to kill either her or myself for letting me trust a f****** b**** but i really love her also but i just don;t know what to do anymore and i really want to work this huge problem that i have and this seems to be the place to go to instead of paying some shrink to tell me stuff and give me drugs that won't help in the long run.
 
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Ok dude relax, Phd PR_L is in the house but I wantto get the story straight!!

Your wife to be is throwing kisses and..

" like she was talking with her ex and she was joking around and i saw stuff like having sex and loving you and blowing kisses and i just lost it and went crazy i almost wanted to kill either her or myself for letting me trust a f****** b**** but i really love her"


Your fiance did this and you saw it??????? Having sex with another dude?? HUH???

Calm yourself!!! Explain - clarify!!!
 
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Listen. Women don’t joke about those things, but only hors do!!!!! Your wife-to-be is a hor!!!!! Whatever you do – do not show any emotions to this hor - clarify your angst!!!!

You are too emotionally involved in this – please rationalize your situation and give us specifics in your post!!!! Do not contact this hor, errrrr, girl, errrr, fiancé, until you receive further guidance!!!
 

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i saw her im chat with her ex and she was joking around saying i will have sex with you and blow you if you come back early meaning he was out of state
 

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is it really worth it to trust women these days i mean can't you be happy single and just have friends and no marriage bc thats all women want if you get into a relationship
 
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Oh God, please do not go to sleep until I respond further!!!!
 

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Originally posted by gambit21680
i am 25 years old and engaged to a girl who is nice and sweet to me but likes to joke around with guys not alot but she does joke. i really have a problem with jelousy and just being paranoid bc of what happened with me in the past. I have been cheated on alot by one girl and i told myself never to trust a women ever again. I also have been stabbed in the back by my friends bc i am not fun enough and now i have no friends to joke around with or hangout with. i am starting to get really bad mood changes like she was talking with her ex and she was joking around and i saw stuff like having sex and loving you and blowing kisses and i just lost it and went crazy i almost wanted to kill either her or myself for letting me trust a f****** b**** but i really love her also but i just don;t know what to do anymore and i really want to work this huge problem that i have and this seems to be the place to go to instead of paying some shrink to tell me stuff and give me drugs that won't help in the long run.
It seems you have an issue with trust and an issue with expectations. Technically speaking, this is not an issue about women. You even mentioned your friends being an issue. Maybe though, the issue becomes greater if it's with your fiance only because you feel that this relationship you have with your fiance means a whole lot more compared to your relationship with your friends.

I've mentioned before that to trust someone, you first have to be well prepared for that trust to be broken. If you are unable to prepare yourself for this potential outcome, you should not put your trust in them. As it is fairly impossible to completely trust someone, we go about this by only putting in a suitable amount of trust depending on how well we know the other person. You seem to put a little too much trust in others. To the point where once it is broken, you are caught totally unaware and you are surprised by it. You ask yourself how can this person do such things to you after all you've been through. When you ask such questions, the issue of expectations comes into play.

Expectations are a dangerous thing. To expect is to demand. To expect is to assume that it will be so. There is no other option when expecting something. It seems as if you expect your friends to treat you with dignity and to treat you with respect. It seems as if you expect your fiance to be faithful, to be loyal, to be subservient, to be dedicated to you and you alone. If any of these expectations would to be denied, you are thrown into a frenzy where control and reason flies out the window. You are probably aware that it isn't a good or nice to react in such a manner, but the emotions are too great and they get in the way and take control.

Seeking therapy in the right place to try and alleviate this problem is not such a bad idea. However, do not expect most of the shrinks you see to be able to help you. Some might be helpful while others might make things worse.

The point I'm trying to get across is that in life, there's going to be a huge amount of shyt thrown at us. And it will come in all sorts of forms. Our desires, our dreams and our wishes will tend to go unfulfilled. We have to understand this and we have to accept this. We must not delude ourselves into thinking that our lives deserve so much more. We do not deserve anything from anyone and no one owes us anything (excluding legal situations). Anyone who thinks or feels otherwise can continue living their lives that revolves around everyone else but them. They better be happy with all the crap they're gonna get and they better not fvcking complain about it.
 
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Listen. Women don’t joke about those things, but only hors do!!!!! Your wife-to-be is a hor!!!!! Whatever you do – do not show any emotions to this hor - clarify your angst!!!!

You are too emotionally involved in this – please rationalize your situation and give us specifics in your post!!!! Do not contact this hor, errrrr, girl, errrr, fiancé, until you receive further guidance!!!
 

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you make some good points i do have problems with expecting to much and trust. Also to let you guys know she does live with me i have to try and trust myself first to do the right things in life to make me happy not anyone else they come last and to expect the unexpected
 

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Originally posted by gambit21680
i saw her im chat with her ex and she was joking around saying i will have sex with you and blow you if you come back early meaning he was out of state
Ok, you don't need to know much more than this: That is unacceptable and you should probably dump her.
 
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listen dude, the hell with generalizations, we are talking about your girl!!!!!

She is a hor and has disrespected you as a man to talk to her ex. or any man. that way!!!!!

Do not marry her!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I know that I'm a stranger, but, as of now, I'm your best friend!!!

She will be your destruction!!!!!

You are 25 and desperate --- but what youi want is a good woman --- she is not good nor is she a woiman -- she talks as a hor!!!
 
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Originally posted by gambit21680
you make some good points i do have problems with expecting to much and trust. Also to let you guys know she does live with me i have to try and trust myself first to do the right things in life to make me happy not anyone else they come last and to expect the unexpected
Do not listen to anyone else or anything but that which I speak!!!!!

You are blinded and quit blaming yourself and "jealousy" - this has nothing to do with it!!!!!

If you marry her - you will be dead soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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JonJack .. isn't it a good thing he saw her IM chat though? Talking about having sex and blowing your x when you're in an LTR or going to be married is an absolute no-no, caught or not.

I like your advice JJ, but you're always giving way too much credit. PRL is right on with this one (again). She WILL be his destruction. She's already virtually cheating before cheating if you get my drift. Her x returns and this guy is out of town, imagine what could happen then. 'Hey we should get togther for a drink' etc. etc.

You have to know dam well she is going to cheat if she is already behaving like this. He now knows she can't be trusted. Trust and expectations are earned JJ .. and she my friend is not worth her salt!
 
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Jon Jack's advice is WEAK!!!! He should be put to death for such weak counsel and any man that agrees with him shall be put to the same fate!!!!!!
 

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Originally posted by tmpgstx
JonJack .. isn't it a good thing he saw her IM chat though? Talking about having sex and blowing your x when you're in an LTR or going to be married is an absolute no-no, caught or not.

I like your advice JJ, but you're always giving way too much credit. PRL is right on with this one (again). She WILL be his destruction. She's already virtually cheating before cheating if you get my drift. Her x returns and this guy is out of town, imagine what could happen then. 'Hey we should get togther for a drink' etc. etc.

You have to know dam well she is going to cheat if she is already behaving like this. He now knows she can't be trusted. Trust and expectations are earned JJ .. and she my friend is not worth her salt!
I do not doubt the fact that his fiance could be his downfall. I have a strong feeling that if he would to marry her, that it wouldn't be what he expects. My advice is put forward in such a way so that he is able to understand that what he thinks he wants or what he thinks he should be looking for will most probably lead him to an outcome that he will not be happy with. It always starts from the individual. Once gambit can look at himself and change the way he looks at others, he will be better able to cope with situations such as these.

A simple way of looking at it is to just put other people in his situation and imagine how they will react. The situation remains the same but the way a person reacts to it will always be different. Some will take it badly while others might not get phased by it. The important question is why? And if you desire not to get phased by situations like these, then you must want to find the reasons why some people react differently.

Blaming the other person for all your woes will lead to more of the same situations. You will always meet other nasty, lousy people. You will always react the same way. If you're happy with it, then there's no reason to think about it.

Gambit has to decide what he wants. Does he want to continue facing the same issues and continue to feel the same lousy way. Or does he want to experience all these issues and have a different, better way of looking at it.

Do not confuse blaming the other person with fixing the problem. They are not the same. To fix the problem is to understand it and to make it such that it no longer becomes an issue in the future.
 

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Originally posted by PuertoRican_Lover
Jon Jack's advice is WEAK!!!! He should be put to death for such weak counsel and any man that agrees with him shall be put to the same fate!!!!!!
My advice might be considered "weak" but I can tell you one thing for sure. I am not mentally weak. My will is strong and I feel good about myself. I don't have a girl and I do not constantly get laid, but it doesn't matter to me. Not because I don't like girls or like sex, but because I understand that it is just one moment in time. Plus there are plenty of other things that I enjoy which I get to do everyday.

I pride myself in not allowing others to bring me down. I try my best not to allow them to have any emotional power over me. Those that hold sway with me only do so because they have earned my respect and only because they are strong characters themselves.

If you consider advice from a person to have no problems with his life which some might consider un-livable weak, then so be it.
 

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Blaming the other person for all your woes will lead to more of the same situations. You will always meet other nasty, lousy people. You will always react the same way. If you're happy with it, then there's no reason to think about it.
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Do not confuse blaming the other person with fixing the problem. They are not the same. To fix the problem is to understand it and to make it such that it no longer becomes an issue in the future. [/B]


Now that is good advice.
 

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Sorry JonJack but I gotta disagree too. The solution is exactly that - to 'blame others for his problems' in this case. The problem is not within him - it is with his GIRL!!

I feel for you man (gambit). You are about to get married to a girl who has blatantly disrespected you and shows little sign of staying faithful or caring for your feelings.

Normally I would recommend ditching her - no question. But you are about to be married so this situation is a whole lot more difficult. To me this girl sounds like she isn't ready to become committed - I hate to say it man but yeah, she does sound like a *****.

What she has done is pretty unforgivable - ie flirting pretty outrageously and even promising sex with her ex. This is totally unacceptable and is NOT your fault - so don't go blaming yourself.

Like I said normally if this was a 'standard' relationship, I would have advised you to dump the b*tch without a second thought. But as you are so 'close', my advice is to take her to one side and have a serious talk.

Explain to her that the two of you are about to become exclusive and you cannot and WILL NOT tolerate any behaviour like this. She cannot expect to secretly see other people (especially exes) if she is preparing for commitment. I'm sure you wouldn't do anything like that to her so why the hell should she expect to get away with it?

Just my $0.02.
 
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