I gotta ask the board! Do you think women control the dating, love, and sex game?

[corrector]

they absolutely control the dating game. look at all the threads here about online dating. you have every guy, unattractive, average, and very attractive all competing for the same top women. they definitely own the dating game

Nah, you've got every guy, unattractive, average just trying to hold their head above water and attract a HB 6 if they are lucky enough to get their attention. They don't have a chance with anyone higher and most likely have to settle lower since all of these types are going after the top guys.

Don't think there is any middle-class ground for an average, unattractive guy to get someone half-decent, let alone the "same top women". Most probably won't even try since they know don't have a chance and the message will just stroke her email while she's trying to get the top 5% guy on there.

 

[corrector]

Exactly, and if a man keeps getting constantly rejected by women, he has to fix, change, improve many things about himself, now i'm not saying that he has to change himself in the way in which he would no longer be being himself, but overall, he has to work on himself, his "game", confidence, flirting, social-skills, conversation-skills, approach, attitude, mindset, mentality.

Then he's rejected by women for being a "try-hard".

 

[corrector]

I knew a woman who has a miserable life and claimed guys didn't want to fvck her and had to resort to pay a male prostitute $ 200 to do her. She also complained that when she travelled to other country she'd envy other women who guys liked and chased after.

To an educated Black women, or Black women in general, they often complain. This example was a Black woman with short hair.

I knew another women that's on a wheelchair who claim no guy wants to fvck her. She had arranged hookup with guys and they just got cold feet when they saw her. Or, her past boyfriends would say that they don't believe in sex before marriage. Once they broke up and they went with another girl then all of a sudden they start having sex.

So, it may be difficult to believe, but it seems that there are some women out there that have no luck with men. Even if they seem like they are in control, they are not. The guy leaves them for another woman and they are left with nothing but a broken heart, or a guy lies to them and kicks them to the curb once they got what they want.

Guys, have plenty of options. If you travel anywhere in the world, you probably can find a hooker or escort from a wide variety of choice who can fvck you for money. The last time I checked in my local area, they are plenty of escort ads, you can choose age, race, special types of services if you are into something freaky, special body fetishs (boobs, butt, etc...), and even reviews of such escorts from other clients. With that level of choice to have a hot time and move out without any further complications into your life, if you have a bit of cash, I don't see what all the fuss is about.

If a girl is stuck, like she's in a wheelchair, has a mental disorder that is throwings off or has something about her that guys don't really fancy her then she's stuck. In some cases paying is not even an option, and if it were an option, the selection of males would be extremely limited compared to the options a guy has to choose from women who sell their bodies.

Also if a women goes out and starts asking for sex there she can also risk getting raped or more than she bargained for. A guy could do that, but apart from a crazy women who is a police whistle (and not many woman is like that anyway), what risk of harm is there really?

 

[Alle_Gory]

Everyone here seems to think that women are in charge of the game. Why? Because we go after attractive women.

You forget what a large majority the average girls make up, and even lesser girls make up a huge portion of the female demographic. But we really don't like them too much.

Everyone whines and complains, oh 20% of the men have sex with 80% of the women.

Like hell they do. You ever seen 80% of women? Really. Let's take a big ass sample. Which includes your grandmother, your mother, the crack *****s, the maids at the grungy discount motel with 3 kids. It's more like 20% of attractive men fvcking the other 20% of attractive women.

 

[Trump]

Everyone here seems to think that women are in charge of the game. Why? Because we go after attractive women.

You forget what a large majority the average girls make up, and even lesser girls make up a huge portion of the female demographic. But we really don't like them too much.

Everyone whines and complains, oh 20% of the men have sex with 80% of the women.

Like hell they do. You ever seen 80% of women? Really. Let's take a big ass sample. Which includes your grandmother, your mother, the crack *****s, the maids at the grungy discount motel with 3 kids. It's more like 20% of attractive men fvcking the other 20% of attractive women.

Great point. A lot of people on here think all the guys getting sex have it with the hottest women and sexiest girls. They forget to realize a lot of people are average looking.

 

[Ihateinitiatingalot7]

Maybe you're not being controlled in that situation, but you're definitely not doing the controlling either.

Neither gender really controls the dating game, unless maybe they're at or near 10 level value. But traditionally men put their bid in, and women are the selectors. It's that way throughout most of nature.


Check out this thread from the Mature Man forum about floosies grabbing guys' junk in bars. It doesn't sound like guys appreciate the direct approach from women very much. Apparently aggressive women do not exude femininity:

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=194423

and why is putting your bid in, how logically is that power?

 

[Ihateinitiatingalot7]

Then he's rejected by women for being a "try-hard".

and why do women hate, despise, loathe men who are desperate, needy, clingy, try too hard? why does it make a guy look weak, pathetic? nobody has ever bothered to explain that.

 

[Alle_Gory]

and why do women hate, despise, loathe men who are desperate, needy, clingy, try too hard? why does it make a guy look weak, pathetic? nobody has ever bothered to explain that.

Replace women with "a job". Now think about that situation from an employee employer angle.

You will come up with the answer yourself. What happens when an employee is too desperate? What happens when an employee tries too hard?

Think about it from both sides, as a boss and as an employee.

 

[Ihateinitiatingalot7]

Replace women with "a job". Now think about that situation from an employee employer angle.

You will come up with the answer yourself. What happens when an employee is too desperate? What happens when an employee tries too hard?

Think about it from both sides, as a boss and as an employee.

jobs is a different issue, a boss should want a desperate employee because a desperate employee is more likely to be a hard-worker, wants the job more, wants it badly.

 

[DonGorgon]

Yes women control the dating/sex/love/marriage game and here is why:

1. Male over population - For every female out and willing to F there are 20 male out and trying to F her

2. Shortage in supply of pu$$y - mean women who have a monopoly on it can demand more stuff from men aside from just **** which is all they really deserve for their pu$$y

3. Increase male desperation - more men are desperate and more willing to give women stuff fro sex which spoils females and teaches them to expect more things and tis makes life harder for poor men or men with less looks..

4. Women have more options - because there are 2 men for every 1 willing woman a female has lowered perceived value in males cause she can easily get more to replace the ones she has and does not need to care as much or put effort in relationships cause she always as 20 other men in her ear offering her stuff and telling her why she should F him..

 

[Alle_Gory]

1. Male over population - For every female out and willing to F there are 20 male out and trying to F her

Wrong. It's simply a matter of demand. Young attractive women are in demand over last year's model which has baggage and a crusty leathery interior that hasn't been maintained.

There are plenty of women out there if you lower your standards.

2. Shortage in supply of pu$$y - mean women who have a monopoly on it can demand more stuff from men aside from just **** which is all they really deserve for their pu$$y

Wrong. There is no shortage of it. There is however an abundance of morons who will do anything and everything for it driving the price up.

3. Increase male desperation - more men are desperate and more willing to give women stuff fro sex which spoils females and teaches them to expect more things and tis makes life harder for poor men or men with less looks..

Yup.

4. Women have more options - because there are 2 men for every 1 willing woman a female has lowered perceived value in males cause she can easily get more to replace the ones she has and does not need to care as much or put effort in relationships cause she always as 20 other men in her ear offering her stuff and telling her why she should F him..

Nope. They do not have options. While there are 2 or 3 men for every willing female you have a wide spread from old geezers who have no shame to deadbeat dads to alcoholics.

Just because everyone wants you, doesn't mean you want them.

Tell me. If things were reversed and you had hundreds of women wanting you... would you really have hundreds of options? Or would you have about 20 good ones and the rest... you would want to avoid at all costs. You forget, there's plenty of ugly women and fatties out there.

 

[Alle_Gory]

jobs is a different issue, a boss should want a desperate employee because a desperate employee is more likely to be a hard-worker, wants the job more, wants it badly.

Ok. Why don't you talk to a hiring manager or someone you know who has employees or hires.

Ask them "which is more attractive, a prospective employee who is already employed or a desperate prospective employee who's been out of work for awhile. and why"

This will answer many questions for you.

 

[Ihateinitiatingalot7]

Wrong. It's simply a matter of demand. Young attractive women are in demand over last year's model which has baggage and a crusty leathery interior that hasn't been maintained.

There are plenty of women out there if you lower your standards.



Wrong. There is no shortage of it. There is however an abundance of morons who will do anything and everything for it driving the price up.



Yup.



Nope. They do not have options. While there are 2 or 3 men for every willing female you have a wide spread from old geezers who have no shame to deadbeat dads to alcoholics.

Just because everyone wants you, doesn't mean you want them.

Tell me. If things were reversed and you had hundreds of women wanting you... would you really have hundreds of options? Or would you have about 20 good ones and the rest... you would want to avoid at all costs. You forget, there's plenty of ugly women and fatties out there.

i still don't logically see how guys approaching women, how does that give them control of the situation when women get to do the choosing? women just have to welcome or deny advances.

 

[Megaman XIV]

Yes women control the dating/sex/love/marriage game and here is why:

1. Male over population - For every female out and willing to F there are 20 male out and trying to F her

2. Shortage in supply of pu$$y - mean women who have a monopoly on it can demand more stuff from men aside from just **** which is all they really deserve for their pu$$y

3. Increase male desperation - more men are desperate and more willing to give women stuff fro sex which spoils females and teaches them to expect more things and tis makes life harder for poor men or men with less looks..

4. Women have more options - because there are 2 men for every 1 willing woman a female has lowered perceived value in males cause she can easily get more to replace the ones she has and does not need to care as much or put effort in relationships cause she always as 20 other men in her ear offering her stuff and telling her why she should F him..

Since there are so many goddamn men willing to do damn anything for some pvssy, this is part of why women have so much control in the game.

The other part is this entitlement sh*t. Thanks to the media, and the fact that most women are attention wh0res, they now think their vaginas are worth a lavish lifestyle.

Even older women think that they're entitled to a lavish lifestyle! All because of the vagina.

 

[nismo-4]

Since there are so many goddamn men willing to do damn anything for some pvssy, this is part of why women have so much control in the game.

The other part is this entitlement sh*t. Thanks to the media, and the fact that most women are attention wh0res, they now think their vaginas are worth a lavish lifestyle.

Even older women think that they're entitled to a lavish lifestyle! All because of the vagina.

Most men need to wise up and understand that women KNOW that they can and will use the promise of sex to get what they want from men. Women don't care about a man's feelings.

And there are so many guys who don't have love and companionship these days, I've even seen some come out of the closet.

Also the media has given women a high sense of entitlement. Now a lot of them are thinking "I've got that pink! You better have (Insert popular gadget, job, car, etc. here) or you won't have a chance with me." Even women past 50 think like this.

Women need to understand that not every man is a muscular millionaire with a mansion, mercedes, maid, and a master's. Though this is the kind of man that every woman wants, very few exist, and those that do are taken. Stop rewarding women for being bad. Know how to walk away. Even though if you walk away, there are always 100 guys who'll bend over backwards for her.

What the f**k is dating gonna be like in 2030?

 

[Burroughs]

What the f**k is dating gonna be like in 2030?

dating will be illegal in 2030

men (of the 99% caste) approaching women will be criminalized as well

 

[SamTheHobit]

It sh!t like this, haven't gone out for a while just seems like a waste of energy. At my lowest point with women right now.

 

[Ihateinitiatingalot7]

and why is taking charge, control, initiative, being in control, having power, part of being a "Man"? why are those "Masculine, Manly things"? Because it gets frustratingly annoying on how life, society, culture, expect us guys to Toughen it up all the damn time, expect us to be strong all the damn time and not show any form of weakness

 

[Megaman XIV]

Ok. Why don't you talk to a hiring manager or someone you know who has employees or hires.

Ask them "which is more attractive, a prospective employee who is already employed or a desperate prospective employee who's been out of work for awhile. and why"

This will answer many questions for you.

Going on a date and to a job interview are two very similar events.

 

[ebracer05]

It just depends on where the interest is. If one person is interested and another isn't, then whoever is not interested has the power. It's very simple. And the reason so many guys don't understand that they have incredible power in their relationships is because they habitually chase disinterest.