I don't get PUA's

[Lexington]

Don't worry about Lexington, he's a young douche who likes to start a new fight every day to cool off ...

Just teasing you Lexi, don't start a new one with me now

Aww, what's the matter Boilermaker? Are you still butthurt because no one ever offered you a joint?

 

[Zarky]

I find it fascinating that any time a manosphere guy disagrees with someone, he's sure that the person is a "woman." And here's the thing: I don't think they're just calling them names in their usual immature way, like "faggot" or whatever.

They really do believe that anyone who disagrees with them is a woman.

Kind of interesting. For manosphere dudes, anyone who disagrees with them is the enemy, and since men can't be their enemy because all men are in it together, all their enemies must be women. Therefore everyone disagreeing with them must be women too.

I wonder how successful a guy can be with pickup if he looks at the people he's trying to pick up as enemies.

 

[zekko]

The other night I went to a bar and there was a large set there having a birthday party for this HB9 21 year old. The birthday girl came up to me and said "You're the first real man I've seen here". I told her "You're not that fat", and she melted all over me like hollandaise sauce.

I told her to get into my car and I drove her to my house out in the boonies. I banged her in eight different positions, then I told to get the F out because I was tired and needed to sleep. I don't know how she got home.

I find it fascinating that any time a manosphere guy disagrees with someone, he's sure that the person is a "woman." And here's the thing: I don't think they're just calling them names in their usual immature way, like "faggot" or whatever.

Well, if you disagree with certain people here, you're either a woman, or a beta faggot, or a troll, or whatever. What's interesting is that you only have to disagree by a slight degree and that will trigger all this namecalling. You can be 99% in agreement, but if you vary from the hivemind PUA dogma by even one percent then you're in trouble. There's no individual thinking allowed among the brainwashed PUA cult.

I don't agree with much of what you say, Zarky, but I respect you for voicing your own opinion. You are in favor of feminism because that means more easy casual sex for you. I don't agree with it, but that logic is consistent with your world view. I still don't understand why people call you a troll. I would rather have one poster on here who thinks for themselves than 20 who just parrots what everybody else is saying.

 

[zekko]

Every group has its extreme fringe, and they're usually the ones who shout the loudest. Volume is often a substitute for logic.

Good point.

 

[Lexington]

I find it fascinating that any time a manosphere guy disagrees with someone, he's sure that the person is a "woman." And here's the thing: I don't think they're just calling them names in their usual immature way, like "faggot" or whatever.

If you had bothered to read the thread and do a quick search, you'd know that Ms Potato has a history here. You also forget that I left open the possibility that "he" is a career masturbator.

Some of the gem statements "he" has made:
-The best way to pickup as a guy is to do what women do
-Pickup tactics don't work because women say they wouldn't work
-Not all women are into "greed" (demonizing financial success and ignoring the fact that most women find wealth attractive)
-He is 1 out of ~150 men in the US because a couple of women (probably his mother and grandmother) told him he's "1 in a million"

Kind of interesting. For manosphere dudes, anyone who disagrees with them is the enemy, and since men can't be their enemy because all men are in it together, all their enemies must be women. Therefore everyone disagreeing with them must be women too.

This is a string of logical non-sequiturs and strawmen arguments.

For "manosphere dudes?" This encompasses literally tens of thousands of "dudes" with varying opinions. In fact, by posting on these forums, you are part of the manosphere.

I wonder how successful a guy can be with pickup if he looks at the people he's trying to pick up as enemies.

And this is the conclusion from your faulty logic based almost entirely on statements that no one here ever made.

Yup, I hate women. I despise them. That's why I'm here posting on a website about how to get good with women.

 

[Stagger Lee]

Well, if you disagree with certain people here, you're either a woman, or a beta faggot, or a troll, or whatever. What's interesting is that you only have to disagree by a slight degree and that will trigger all this namecalling. You can be 99% in agreement, but if you vary from the hivemind PUA dogma by even one percent then you're in trouble. There's no individual thinking allowed among the brainwashed PUA cult.

I can't really agree that's always the case. I say lots of things critical and contrary to PUA (as do you) and I don't experience much of any name-calling. I say things like looks and age matter a lot, and that many PUA tactics are ineffective and sometimes counter-effective.

The people that are called woman and trolls oftentimes most likely are. Not to drop names by Jaylan and potato for instance are very likely not even males as they claim they are.

I don't agree with much of what you say, Zarky, but I respect you for voicing your own opinion. You are in favor of feminism because that means more easy casual sex for you. I don't agree with it, but that logic is consistent with your world view. I still don't understand why people call you a troll. I would rather have one poster on here who thinks for themselves than 20 who just parrots what everybody else is saying.

I agree there. I don't see how Zarky is a troll or a woman, but I think it is only a few that say that. Like you I disagree with feminism too. I think men were getting as much or more and better sex before feminism whether or not it was "casual". If Zarky is pro-feminism then I can see why he would piss off some.

I just think some people are just abrasive and it's not so much that they have contrarian beliefs as it's how they express them.

 

[zekko]

If you had bothered to read the thread and do a quick search, you'd know that Ms Potato has a history here.

I could be wrong, but I thought that what Zarky was referring to was the fact that he, himself, had been called a woman. Tits is always calling him a woman. Not sure if he was talking about Potato.

I say lots of things critical and contrary to PUA (as do you) and I don't experience much of any name-calling. I say things like looks and age matter a lot, and that many PUA tactics are ineffective and sometimes counter-effective.

I think most of the PUA community has come around to accepting that looks are a huge factor. The only real holdouts are the gurus who are running businesses dependent on telling people that looks don't matter. Age, however, is something that i don't think is that important.

I agree there. I don't see how Zarky is a troll or a woman, but I think it is only a few that say that. Like you I disagree with feminism too. I think men were getting as much or more and better sex before feminism whether or not it was "casual". If Zarky is pro-feminism then I can see why he would piss off some.

Like I said, I disagree with Zarky, but I can see his side of it. Feminism has unquestionably extended the period of time that women stay single. I think the average marrying age now for women is somewhere in the mid to late 20s. That gives them an extended period of time to ride the c0ck carousel.

If, like Zarky, your main interest in women is finding an endless supply of easy slvts willing to put out without much resistance, feminism has contributed greatly toward that end. It's interesting to me that many here profess that all they want is this endless string of easy lays, but they are militantly anti-feminism.

I think what's really going on is that a lot of these guys who say they want all the easy slvts really would like to find a nice girl to settle down with, but have given up on that due to current conditions.

 

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I find it fascinating that any time a manosphere guy disagrees with someone, he's sure that the person is a "woman."

I don't recall anyone asking you for your opinion woman. The men are talking now, back in your box.

 

[potato]

Wow. Really insightful stuff there: work out, dress well, have good posture, read, be sociable. Thanks for that one, captain obvious. Let's just close these forums down! Potato has solved everyone's problems with women!

If these don’t work for you then you are most likely genetically deficient. Nature has a way of weeding people like you out of the gene pool.

You're right. PUAs study what naturals do so that it can be adapted for their purposes.

Actually they don’t. That is the point that I’ve been trying to make. Women are naturally attracted to me and I never see PUA types acting as I do.

Well, by the looks of things you're apparently a woman. The solipsism in your post definitely seems to hint that you lack a y chromosome…. that Ms Potato has a history here. You also forget that I left open the possibility that "he" is a career masturbator….

I don't recall anyone asking you for your opinion woman. The men are talking now, back in your box.

If all else fails resort to name calling.

The problem with the whole PUA philosophy is that they have it backwards, that the game is played to attract women. In the real world attractions happen naturally and the game begins once two people attracted to one another decide to take it further.

 

[Lexington]

If these don’t work for you then you are most likely genetically deficient. Nature has a way of weeding people like you out of the gene pool.

They do work for me. But these aren't exactly amazing revelations. These are things that just about everyone here knows. These are things that most PUAs promote even.

Actually they don’t. That is the point that I’ve been trying to make. Women are naturally attracted to me and I never see PUA types acting as I do.

It's quite obvious you haven't even read much pickup material at all if you are making this statement. Go to any pickup forum (including these forums) and you'll find plenty of posts with observations about what naturals do.

The problem with the whole PUA philosophy is that they have it backwards, that the game is played to attract women. In the real world attractions happen naturally and the game begins once two people attracted to one another decide to take it further.

That would be true if you were a woman. In the real world that's not how it works at all for the majority of men. In most cases, the man has to initiate the courtship and move it along.

 

[Zarky]

potato is still having flashbacks from Vietnam. He knows not of what he speaks.

I think most of the PUA community has come around to accepting that looks are a huge factor. The only real holdouts are the gurus who are running businesses dependent on telling people that looks don't matter.

In the past 17 years of posting about seduction, I've never made a dime. I don't think looks is super important. I believe confidence is king. Looks is quite important, as is money, job status, social status, and a host of other things. But I think confidence rules.

And I say this due to experience. Guys make fun of me for banging 5s. But I bet I've banged more chicks than 99% of the posters here. That, coupled with my powers of observation gives me experience. As far as confidence goes, my confidence is average and I pull average women. I'm sure if I were more confident I would pull more.

I think what's really going on is that a lot of these guys who say they want all the easy slvts really would like to find a nice girl to settle down with, but have given up on that due to current conditions.

I believe that too, but I think it's more sinister and insidious. I think they feel like little men in the world. Ineffectual, impotent. And instead of blaming themselves they blame women. They want to return to a time when men called the shots -- forgetting that even at that time they themselves wouldn't be calling the shots because they're not shot-callers and never will be. :yes:

Which is why they react so vitriolically to my posts. I call them out on the fact that they're little men. Probably with little peckers. And certainly with little-man rage.

 

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snarky sweetheart, your penis is slipping. Ease it back

In the past 17 years of posting about seduction, I've never made a dime.

Just as well, you didn't even know what a neg was.

I believe that too, but I think it's more sinister and insidious. I think they feel like little men in the world. Ineffectual, impotent. And instead of blaming themselves they blame women. They want to return to a time when men called the shots -- forgetting that even at that time they themselves wouldn't be calling the shots because they're not shot-callers and never will be.

Which is why they react so vitriolically to my posts. I call them out on the fact that they're little men. Probably with little peckers. And certainly with little-man rage.

Holy femcvnt shaming tactics batman

lolzoloz, snarky doing her bit for all the cheetos stained POF blobs. Are YOU big enough to handle them?........little man :trouble: