I am probably going to be leaving sosuave.net for good very soon...

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I guess the only solution is to leave then. This site has been going donwhill for awhile. Maybe its the influx of new people breaking the community spirit. Maybe its because there are more and more frustrated males looking for something else.

Regardless, its your decision. You want to leave? Leave.

Want to stay? Many of us welcome you.


I've read many of your posts Wyldfire and I have to say, they really have helped me out. Thanks for the different viewpoint.
 

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I urge you to stay wyldfire. You provide great 3rd point of view in a relationship.

I also urge mods to clean up the forum. there are too many guys harboring hatred against women. This is very self destructive attitude.
 
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picard said:
I urge you to stay wyldfire. You provide great 3rd point of view in a relationship.

I also urge mods to clean up the forum. there are too many guys harboring hatred against women. This is very self destructive attitude.
To each his own. It's not worth trying to save those who do not wish to be.

Really, it's a waste of time. It just gets annoying after awhile when a poster comes in with a one-track mind.

As for the mods? Ok....

They can't do anything. They wont do anything. It's not their job, they simply volunteer their time. They are understaffed for this kind of work on their free time.
 

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Tazman said:
Why would this be an exception? You're still responding to anonymous people who don't know you OR your family. Why would you take ANY personal attack with more than a grain of salt?
Has anyone you were in love with ever been murdered? I hope for you sake that the answer is no. I have gotten very upset when my deceased fiance has been insulted or berated. Also, unless you are a parent you just can't understand the powerful urge to protect your children. I have a beautiful young daughter who just turned 6 who has been attacked and berated as well. Those are the things that upset me. All the other stuff doesn't bother me. I'm not even complaining about those flames and attacks on me personally...it's that I have been told that I need to live by a different set of rules than you and everyone else or get banned. I've made that clear, yet people still think it's the flamebaiting directed at me that I'm upset about.

I don't care if people attack me. I DO care that I'm being told that I will be treated differently than you and everyone else here.
 

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Stay or go I don't care, just do it.

If you have a problem with moderation, quit yet *****in' and take it up with them.

If they don't listen, tough. You're not paying for this board, their rules can be as contradictory as they like. I believe they reserve the right to ban anyone for any or no reason at all.

So to sum up: stay or go away. Just stop desperately grabbing attention.
 

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Wyldfire is one of the most valuable contributors to this board. She should have a right to defend herself if people make personal attacks against her.
 
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i feel like the flaming gets so out of hand sometimes here.
nobody deserves for someone to come along and just start ridiculing their old threads and posts .
making fun of peoples families should be off limits.

sure , people are not going to see eye to eye on all the threads and advise given at this forum. however we must try to handle it with as much maturity as we possibly can.

if you dont like someones advise, either dont take it or discuss it.
however throwing up something from an old thread or calling someones children or other family members names should not be allowed.

i dont like it being done to me either, and neither does anyone else.

sometimes we have to pick and choose are battles....

do we have any kind of ignore user button that would disable us from seeing items posted by people that need to be ignored? if so, perhaps this option should be used when you need to refrain from trollishness... just a thought.
 

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penkitten said:
do we have any kind of ignore user button that would disable us from seeing items posted by people that need to be ignored?
Click on their name, click view profile. On the bottom of the top, there is a link that says "Add user to ignore list", right next to "Add user to buddy list".
 

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I'm pretty sure this is a case of dementia. It's funny to see all of the AFC's run to her defence then ask if they can have her number. Just the sheer amount of typing she does and personal attachment she has to the site, indicates to me that there's probably some psychological issues at play. And the old "I'm leaving" attention-***** threads are so easy to see through. Women crave drama and attention, are you AFC's paying attention to this? This is the kind of woman you want to stay far, far away from.
 

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italostud said:
I'm pretty sure this is a case of dementia. It's funny to see all of the AFC's run to her defence then ask if they can have her number. Just the sheer amount of typing she does and personal attachment she has to the site, indicates to me that there's probably some psychological issues at play. And the old "I'm leaving" attention-***** threads are so easy to see through. Women crave drama and attention, are you AFC's paying attention to this? This is the kind of woman you want to stay far, far away from.
The only AFCs here are guys who get so easily offended by female opinion and who think that by disagreeing with anything a woman says (or flaming her) here will keep him from becoming an AFC. In reality, it just shows how uncomfortable you are around females and how much you still have to work on.

What's happening to Wyld has happened to other posters as well before, such as P_S and PRL and anyone who posts controversial opinions. People flame-bait them, mods don't react (in fact, one of the old mods used to flame-bait people all the time), the person in question defends himself/herself, mods ban the person, flame-baiters keep posting useless KBJ sh!t.
 

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Wyldfire, I think the majority of guys on this site dont give a damn if you stay or go.

Flaming is just immature - best thing to do is ignore it.

If ya cant handle some interent geek insulting you (or loved ones) then... get off the site. But please stop whining.
 

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Not trying to whine...I just want everyone to know that if I end up getting banned..why.

There's a great deal of confusion that when I DEBATE an opinion or view that I am upset or emotional or responding to attacks on myself. That's not the case at all. I am just presenting my views and making logical arguments against the views I am disagreeing with. MindOverMatter is exactly right...this same thing happens to any poster who is a good debater. He named a couple who ended up banned for the same reason I am at risk to be banned. Then people wonder why all the posters who had interesting things to write have left. If you would rather have a huge herd of AFCs who think if they flamebait and attack others they are in some way "jockeying" for some silly "alpha male" spot on a web forum (these are the Keyboard Jockeys) instead of people who actually offer valuable input that adds something meaty to ponder then you aren't here to better yourself...you are here to biotch.

There is another solution to the issue. Allen could make me a moderator and rather than respond to flamebait and personal attacks made at me I could simply delete them instead. In fact, that would probably be the most effective solution available for anyone like myself whose input is valued by the majority of the members yet a lot of work for the moderators because of these keyboard jockeys.
 

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Maybe this is a female thing, I don't know, but it doesn't make sense to me that anyone should get overly upset when someone insults them or their family/loved ones on this board. These people don't KNOW you and don't come in contact with you in RL. They exist on this board with typed words and anonymous identities. For all you know it could be some 14 y/o kid laughing at how easy it is to antagonize you.

I like the fact that you can pretty much say what you want here, that's part of the draw for me. I've been to other boards and it annoys me to have to watch closely what I say to avoid getting band. Wyldfire, it seems like you post here to get some sort of validation and respect but I can't see that being possible when dealing with the majority of guys who come here. Look at the theme of this site, your presence here is inconsequential.

You keep saying that it doesn't bother you when someone attacks you personally, yet it's a different story when they talk about others you care for. I'm sorry, that doesn't make any sense to me. It's very female in nature, hence the reason you aren't going to get much sympathy from guys here. Lets say you WILL be treated differently, what choice do you have but to either concede or leave? You know you aren't going to rally support from guys here so why even bother making it an issue?
 

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Tazman said:
Maybe this is a female thing, I don't know, but it doesn't make sense to me that anyone should get overly upset when someone insults them or their family/loved ones on this board. These people don't KNOW you and don't come in contact with you in RL. They exist on this board with typed words and anonymous identities. For all you know it could be some 14 y/o kid laughing at how easy it is to antagonize you.
Again...I don't get overly upset when someone insults ME or disagrees with my posts and does so in a rude way...to me.

I DO believe it is inherently wrong, tactless and vacant of any level of class or taste for ANYONE to attack or insult the child, loved one (alive or deceased) or family member of a member they don't like or disagree with. It bothers me just as much when I see it happening to someone else, too. Hell, titboy and I have gone round and round back and forth and quite honestly, I dislike him. However, when someone made rude cracks about his young daughter it bothered me JUST as much as it did when others have done the same regarding my own child. It's a matter of principle and etiquette, and it's blatantly out of line and unacceptable to make those kinds of attacks. This applies to everyone's children, family and loved ones...not just mine.

I like the fact that you can pretty much say what you want here, that's part of the draw for me. I've been to other boards and it annoys me to have to watch closely what I say to avoid getting band. Wyldfire, it seems like you post here to get some sort of validation and respect but I can't see that being possible when dealing with the majority of guys who come here. Look at the theme of this site, your presence here is inconsequential.
I'm not looking for validation, attention, a man or any of that nonsense. Being shown common the same level of common courtesy and respect that I show to someone is definately something I want...just like everyone else on here wants. No one wants to be treated with rudeness and disrespect, and I am no different. Whether I am male or female (which, incidentally, none of you REALLY know for sure what my gender is) is irrelevent...and it should be. I'm not the one demanding to be treated differently. In fact, the opposite is true. I am clearly saying that I want to be treated just like everyone else. It's a few members and apparently at least one moderator who thinks I need a different set of rules than everyone else has. If my presence here were, as you claim, inconsequential then I would not have posts in the DJ Bible and I would not receive many private requests for advice. As this thread shows, there are many who value my presence here. If I were not here, there is no one else who posts that offers advice and input that approaches things from the same angle and perspective that I do.

You keep saying that it doesn't bother you when someone attacks you personally, yet it's a different story when they talk about others you care for. I'm sorry, that doesn't make any sense to me. It's very female in nature, hence the reason you aren't going to get much sympathy from guys here.
It's not really a female trait to be protective of those you love. In fact, it's more of a masculine trait.

Lets say you WILL be treated differently, what choice do you have but to either concede or leave? You know you aren't going to rally support from guys here so why even bother making it an issue?
I'm not asking for support. I'm asking that I have the same rules everyone else on this forum has. I also warned those who do want me here that I am at risk for being banned if I don't follow a different set of rules and told them if they don't want to see that happen they should make that known to those who run the site. I'm sure there are many who would have liked that same option when Player_Supreme and Puerto_Rican_Lover faced the same situation I currently am facing.
 

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puerta rican lover started flamebaiting threads right before he got banned

Wyldfire maybe it's best for your own sanity if you just left. All of these novel like posts just because a few faceless anonymous people insulted your family (who they don't know) shouldn't get to you that much. Also why do people even know about your family here? This site is a place where we talk about women, how on earth did your family become a discussion on this forum? What exactly do you get by being here? I don't have a problem with a female opinion I just don't understand why a female would want to be here and post 7000+ times.
 

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See you.

Can't stand the heat, get out the kitchen.
 

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Some of you really do need to get a life, even I dont spend my time around on the computer Kbjing anymore.
 

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Silverback82 said:
puerta rican lover started flamebaiting threads right before he got banned

Wyldfire maybe it's best for your own sanity if you just left. All of these novel like posts just because a few faceless anonymous people insulted your family (who they don't know) shouldn't get to you that much. Also why do people even know about your family here? This site is a place where we talk about women, how on earth did your family become a discussion on this forum? What exactly do you get by being here? I don't have a problem with a female opinion I just don't understand why a female would want to be here and post 7000+ times.
Okay...let's try this AGAIN. Please READ CAREFULLY this time. Some of you are entirely missing the point here.

This is NOT about me getting attacked or insulted or even about the attacks and insults on my loved ones. This is about me being told I have a different set of rules than you have. It is about UNFAIR MODERATION/ADMINISTRATION practices...not about the insults, flaming or any of that.

Since when does it mean a person's "sanity" is at risk just because they voice their opinion that something is not fair? I guess that must make everyone here insane because each and every one of you have felt you were treated unfairly by some woman/girl. Isn't that why you're here in the first place?
Your other questions have been answered a million times over and are not relevent to the issue at hand, so I'm not answering them.
 

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WesCottII said:
See you.

Can't stand the heat, get out the kitchen.

I have always been able to stand the heat...you full well know that. Standing the heat is not the issue. I'm just being told that I have to stand in a blazing kitchen without using a fire extinguisher while everyone else is allowed to use one.
 

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Wyldfire said:
I have always been able to stand the heat...you full well know that. Standing the heat is not the issue. I'm just being told that I have to stand in a blazing kitchen without using a fire extinguisher while everyone else is allowed to use one.

I don't care.
If you're going, go. If you're staying, stay.

Stop making drama's out of everything that happens to you on here.
 

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