How to make your dating life less dreadful

[pipeman84]

And The more you make the less valuable money is.

So what's the typical date for you? Bottle of boones farm at the park?

So if we are going to debate the costs associated with a date, lets get into the weeds a little...

Her: 2 glasses of wine = $10x2 = $20
Me: 3 mixed drinks = $15x3 = $45
Us: Appetizer = $12

TOTAL = $78 + 8% tax + 20% tip = $100

Thats pretty much standard for me. I always take my dates to nice places with good atmosphere, dim lighting, and music. This is one of the places I've taken many dates to. This is what works for me and the type of women I date. I don't consider $100 a lot to spend.

Firstly I don't drink and secondly I'm not interested in chit chatting and listening to a woman's BS. Paying for the experience would be like putting salt on a wound. For me it's either serious relationship or strictly sex. All this pvssy begging and paying for sex indirectly that happens under the guise of dating seems ridiculous to me.

 

[The Duke]

Firstly I don't drink and secondly I'm not interested in chit chatting and listening to a woman's BS. Paying for the experience would be like putting salt on a wound. For me it's either serious relationship or strictly sex. All this pvssy begging and paying for sex indirectly that happens under the guise of dating seems ridiculous to me.

Thats fine, you've told us pu$$y beggers what we shouldn't do. What is it that you do on dates? Describe your typical date.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Thats fine, you've told us pu$$y beggers what we shouldn't do. What is it that you do on dates? Describe your typical date.

Braga about himself incessantly by the sounds of it

 

[Chow Mein]

So if we are going to debate the costs associated with a date, lets get into the weeds a little...

Her: 2 glasses of wine = $10x2 = $20
Me: 3 mixed drinks = $15x3 = $45
Us: Appetizer = $12

TOTAL = $78 + 8% tax + 20% tip = $100

Thats pretty much standard for me. I always take my dates to nice places with good atmosphere, dim lighting, and music. This is one of the places I've taken many dates to. This is what works for me and the type of women I date. I don't consider $100 a lot to spend.

Nomination for CFO title, mods.

 

[pipeman84]

Thats fine, you've told us pu$$y beggers what we shouldn't do. What is it that you do on dates? Describe your typical date.

Don't take it as an insult. If a man regularly invites other men or old ladies that he barely knows and is willing to spend $100 just for the privilege to be in their presence, then it's one thing. If the same man only does this with women he hopes to have sex with, then how would you call it?

I agree with the rest of the OP.

 

[Chow Mein]

Don't take it as an insult. If a man regularly invites other men or old ladies that he barely knows and is willing to spend $100 just for the privilege to be in their presence, then it's one thing. If the same man only does this with women he hopes to have sex with, then how would you call it?

I agree with the rest of the OP.

It’s called not being a cheap date when women talk amongst themselves, dum dum.
Women seek validation from other women, ya know

 

[Solomon]

I hear so many stories of cheap first dates from females. Men, you are the provider.
It’s pay to play, quality women are looking for the experience. A quality first date will make the path much easier in the long run. The $100 is an investment, you never have a second chance at a first impression.

I don't disagree with this at all let me just say again I don't disagree with this reasoning at all. However on the flipside I had some women insist on coffee dates or walking around the lake date due to it being "Less pressure"

Don't take it as an insult. If a man regularly invites other men or old ladies that he barely knows and is willing to spend $100 just for the privilege to be in their presence, then it's one thing. If the same man only does this with women he hopes to have sex with, then how would you call it?

I agree with the rest of the OP.

I agree with this as well however if you're only looking to get laid in 2024 it can be done by skipping the date nonsense. I've kept track of the women I've been dating in 2024. 33% came straight to the place to bang or hook up. Is this normal? no I kept track in previous years and the average for me is 10-20%. So it certainly can be done. I have also been the simp taking women on drinks or dinner date and ended up never hearing from them again just being honest. However the reality is for most men who want a girlfriend or even to get laid you will have to take a woman on date. The Mode one method doesn't work for everyone. IMO I found more success actually taking a woman on a date then hooking up after (70%)

And The more you make the less valuable money is.

That's another fair point. I agree with this as well. A $100 to a guy making 35K a year is a lot of money a $100 to a guy making 200K a year is nothing. Even if he does so 3 times a week

So if we are going to debate the costs associated with a date, lets get into the weeds a little...

Her: 2 glasses of wine = $10x2 = $20
Me: 3 mixed drinks = $15x3 = $45
Us: Appetizer = $12

TOTAL = $78 + 8% tax + 20% tip = $100

Thats pretty much standard for me. I always take my dates to nice places with good atmosphere, dim lighting, and music. This is one of the places I've taken many dates to. This is what works for me and the type of women I date. I don't consider $100 a lot to spend.

I don't see anything wrong this at all, I always took women to nice places for dates as well even when I was broke as a joke. Back in the early 2010s it was easy because you had happy hour. Now the happy hour prices are similar or damn near the menu prices

The biggest takeaway I've taken away thus far from dating in 2024 is quality trumps quantity. I will say that if you are 35+ and worried about spending a $100 on a first date you shouldn't be dating, Like @CornbreadFed doesn't mean you're looking to spend it but dating nowadays ain't ****ing cheap. Dating is just gonna cost more if you decide to keep seeing a girl. It's not realistic to think that once you have a girlfriend(or even dating someone casually unless it's a Booty call) you will just be doing Netflix and chill all the time. The women will get bored and the relationship is doomed to fail. Women especially quality women or social women like to be out and about. Good luck trying to just get her to come over every night and bang and making her premade lasagna.

 

[The Duke]

Don't take it as an insult. If a man regularly invites other men or old ladies that he barely knows and is willing to spend $100 just for the privilege to be in their presence, then it's one thing. If the same man only does this with women he hopes to have sex with, then how would you call it?

I agree with the rest of the OP.

No insult taken, I don't see spending $100 as a big deal. Most of the bill is mine anyways. Her portion is about $25.

Once again, whats your typical date like?

Don't take this as an insult either, but you are often quick to criticize others, yet you never offer up much on what it is you do. I'm still waiting for the magic recipe on how to secure these 22yo virgin hotties you get that are long term material.

 

[pipeman84]

yet you never offer up much on what it is you do.

I said I agreed with the OP, minus the $100 part.

I'm still waiting for the magic recipe on how to secure these 22yo virgin hotties you get that are long term material.

Magic is the right word because there is no recipe. If it's meant to happen, it will happen, in an unique way for each individual.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

I said I agreed with the OP, minus the $100 part.

Magic is the right word because there is no recipe. If it's meant to happen, it will happen, in an unique way for each individual.

Have you ever considered a career in politics?

 

[Tilex]

the competition varies of course- if she has a large social circle of male friends then of course in daygame the competition Is still there- most my daygame lays came from tourists or people studying one off master's degrees in London who didn't have friends in the city and low options - so daygame is an easy way to get ahead of all the online dating profiles and the non existent social circle

For girls who lived in London born and raised and had social circles in London it was harder to glean dates from them in daygame- most already had boyfriends or just weren't as spontaneous than the tourists or the uni students- either because they didn't like me or they already had enough options so didn't need to take me into consideration , or they would date me briefly but choose someone else in their social circle/job instead.

If I lived in London I wouldn't even bother with online Apps or Day Game.
The Night Game is the happening scene.
London's nightlife is parallel to NYC nightlife.
Actually, London is better than NYC in my opinion. The music scene in the UK is 50x better than USA.

 

[CornbreadFed]

If I lived in London I wouldn't even bother with online Apps or Day Game.
The Night Game is the happening scene.
London's nightlife is parallel to NYC nightlife.
Actually, London is better than NYC in my opinion. The music scene in the UK is 50x better than USA.

He probably thinks the same for the USA.

 

[SW15]

If I lived in London I wouldn't even bother with online Apps or Day Game.

London is supposedly a great place for daygame. There's a lot of foot traffic on the streets. The London Daygame Model emerged from daygamers in London like Tom Torero and others.

 

[Isildur1]

If I lived in London I wouldn't even bother with online Apps or Day Game.
The Night Game is the happening scene.
London's nightlife is parallel to NYC nightlife.
Actually, London is better than NYC in my opinion. The music scene in the UK is 50x better than USA.

Nightgame in London I found it really hard to connect with women because they were mostly ****ed on drugs or drunk - you can stack up numbers and make outs quite easily but its tough to convert that into dates and usually some of the girls have personality issues - in general I don't like meeting people when they are intoxicated or ****ed on drugs because its nearly impossible to garner a fair perspective on whether this chick is into me or is she just drunk and horny and going for anything and whether or not the women in question have personalities that are worthwhile - I gamed a lot In Manchester in North UK where I went for university and it was a similar issue - a lot of drunk women and I didn't really engage in any meaningful conversation with any of them- by this time I was just starting night game I lost my virginity to an MDMA chick- it was only when I moved back to London I started daygame

I preferred London daygame - wrote a few guides from my time there https://mindful-masculinity.org/2020/10/17/areas-to-game-around-london-a-full-analysis/

again it was tough - but less flakes than night game and ALOT more meaningful dating experiences and sex as a result . I think a British man would fair better in the US just because of his UK accent alone

most my family live in Dallas so I go there 3 times a year and my Mum's business is in San Fran so I do spend time analysing the American dating scene but never have had time to date an American in America because I've been in an ltr since going back and forth

 

[CornbreadFed]

I think a British man would fair better in the US just because of his UK accent alone

It’s ridiculous how that goes here, but not the other way around

 

[Isildur1]

He probably thinks the same for the USA.

think for a British Guy its just going to be 10 times easier in the US - I've always had an easier time hooking American women than British - they seem a lot more DTF most likely because of the fact Im British .

But my one gripe with the US in a lot of states I've traveled to is foot flow is poor- having travelled Colorado , Oklahoma , Dallas I wouldn't describe these as daygame friendly cities at all - San Fran had a weird vibe- my favourite would be Washington so far (last time I was in New York I was 6 so I have never been able to analyse the daygame potential there)

 

[Isildur1]

It’s ridiculous how that goes here, but not the other way around

my girlfriend prefers American accents to British so each to their own I guess lol - but a British accent helps a lot in America- it adds a couple points to your smv instantaneously - its no exaggeration

 

[SW15]

Dallas I wouldn't describe these as daygame friendly cities at all

What were your experiences in Dallas daygame? Where did you daygame in Dallas? Was this solely outdoor daygame or did you try various indoor venues in Dallas?

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

It’s ridiculous how that goes here, but not the other way around

Posh English is more attractive than Bubblegum Cowboy.

 

[Isildur1]

What were your experiences in Dallas daygame? Where did you daygame in Dallas? Was this solely outdoor daygame or did you try various indoor venues in Dallas?

last 4 times I've been in Dallas I've been in a relationship so didn't do any daygame but just analysing the city- my favourite part is Legacy West as it's the nicest restaurants and great food - but the foot flow is sparse by comparison - I was just in Dallas this month for my cousin's wedding got back on the 10th of Sep .

only time I did actual daygame was a few approaches in University of Texas (my cousin was a teaching assistant there so I went with him on campus once) but that was quite literally 3 sets one hooked and another one went for lunch with me on campus but of course I live with my aunts and was 22 at the time so logistics wise I had no way to escalate any dates at that time (this was back in 2014) again small experience- I've probably approached more Americans in Colombia, Costa Rica and London than actual America. I love Dallas but it can feel a bit isolating compared to a lot of European and Asian cities. Just to get to whole foods or Central Market each day would take like 15 mins for my Aunt's Husband to drive me there each day. My cousin has a cool bakehouse about an hour out of Plano but again really isolated - rarely see anyone walking . I guess Dallas museum of art was when I saw the largest group of people that and outside the Mavs stadium .

Prefer China - hotter women, less obesity, far cheaper and a lot less expectation from the women by comparison - costs 90 bucks a night for a fantastic five star hotel experience in most cities.