How the decline in casual dinning parallels a man’s struggles in modern dating

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Nice. I made a comment here last year about putting yourself together like the guys (who dress (hairstyle included) and wear (jewelry included) what's popular right now) your target audience likes to make things easier for yourself.
You forgot “and douse themselves in cologne.”
 

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Well let's see...I'm 5'8", probably a 6 in looks and have banged over 60 women from OLD. Granted at times I have been in elite shape which helped, but there was not much difference honestly even when I was heavier and not in the best shape. Maybe had to go on more dates but still never had issues getting laid or getting dates.

Don't believe everything you are told in terms of "data".
 

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You seem like making fun of them. Do you like kicking people who are already down?
I’ll answer:

If the men are 5-6 and complaining about not getting with 8’s Yea I do, I love making fun of people with ridiculous expectations. If you’re not getting what you want improve to the best version of you, lift weights to start and get better clothing and good haircuts, all achievable by ordinary folks.

If that doesn’t improve your performance just accept you don’t rate a hotter woman under any circumstance because you’re an ugly mfer and set your sights lower.
 

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Well let's see...I'm 5'8", probably a 6 in looks and have banged over 60 women from OLD. Granted at times I have been in elite shape which helped, but there was not much difference honestly even when I was heavier and not in the best shape. Maybe had to go on more dates but still never had issues getting laid or getting dates.

Don't believe everything you are told in terms of "data".
The world is full of anomalies. You & I are not alone.
 

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Well let's see...I'm 5'8", probably a 6 in looks and have banged over 60 women from OLD. Granted at times I have been in elite shape which helped, but there was not much difference honestly even when I was heavier and not in the best shape. Maybe had to go on more dates but still never had issues getting laid or getting dates.

Don't believe everything you are told in terms of "data".
A little off topic but it just struck me. The one week on Tinder I got 0 matches was when my Spotify song was Clapton’s ‘It’s in the way that you use it.’.
 

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Prostitution and w0remongering on a site dedicated to seduction Is a non-starter.
Right, then so should be sex robots, AI, or NON-HUMAN based copes that don't require seduction either. Discussion about GEO-maxxing or meeting women in other countries like the Phillipeans, can be argued to not require seduction either, especially if the guy is white and throwing money at her. Also Sugar Baby arrangements can't be talked about either. Porn and no fap should not be discussed either as it's also not related to seduction, The list goes on and on....

At least if you are going play that card then apply it across the board.

Oh, and BTW, for the record, even prostitutes require game, just ask @Gamisch. Therefore based on that logic, saying that a prostitute requires no game or seduction skills, is for the record, debatable. Even @Hamurabimbi incel friend got REJECTED by a stripper. Again, how can you get rejected if no seduction is involved? Unless it's sex-robots or something that's not human, then seduction is always going to be involved.
 
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Right, then so should be sex robots, AI, or NON-HUMAN based copes that don't require seduction either. Discussion about GEO-maxxing or meeting women in other countries like the Phillipeans, can be argued to not require seduction either, especially if the guy is white and throwing money at her. Also Sugar Baby arrangements can't be talked about either. Porn and no fap should not be discussed either as it's also not related to seduction, The list goes on and on....

At least if you are going play that card then apply it across the board.

Oh, and BTW, for the record, even prostitutes require game, just ask @Gamisch. Therefore based on that logic, saying that a prostitute requires no game or seduction skills, is for the record, debatable. Even @Hamurabimbi incel friend got REJECTED by a stripper. Again, how can you get rejected if no seduction is involved? Unless it's sex-robots or something that's not human, then seduction is always going to be involved.
Dude you have way too much time on your hands, if you spent the time you use to post here (and I’m sure other places) to do pushups and get an online degree you’d not be our resident self-proclaimed incel, I’d say volcel at this point. How many pushups today?
 

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At least if you are going play that Even @Hamurabimbi incel friend got REJECTED by a stripper. Again, how can you get rejected if no seduction is involved? Unless it's sex-robots or something that's not human, then seduction is always going to be involved.
Well. Actually both he & I were just sitting there when she propositioned me & rejected him. We had no opportunity to seduce her.
 
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Well let's see...I'm 5'8", probably a 6 in looks and have banged over 60 women from OLD. Granted at times I have been in elite shape which helped, but there was not much difference honestly even when I was heavier and not in the best shape. Maybe had to go on more dates but still never had issues getting laid or getting dates.

Don't believe everything you are told in terms of "data".
If you are willing to have relatively low standards AND live in an area with a decent OLD pool this is not all that unrealistic.

I knew a guy that was living in a college town when he was in his early to mid 20s who got a lot of action from OLD, particularly tinder. He was a real life 7 for his age, was 6'+, decently handsome and looked like an average guy you'd see that played pickup basketball games at the gym. I had this preconceived notion that he was pulling a bunch of cute or even hot women from OLD, but I was totally incorrect. Most of the women he pulled from there were honestly average looking, in fact I'd even add that a good portion of them were below average and something I'd never be interested in. The key to this success though is that he was willing to lower his standards by quite a bit when it came to shorter term type flings. The real relationships that he did end up having though were women that were fairly similar to him in regards to attractiveness.

You probably banged a lot of fatties or left over women that you met with OLD sources. There's nothing wrong with this, but don't pretend you were landing quality women left and right.
 
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Channel your excited feelings into positive thoughts and behaviors. You will attract women by being enthusiastic, radiating energy, and becoming someone who is fun to be around.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Life is not fair it's not my fault, Ugly guys have options to do as they wish, why would they care what I think about them? I don't worry about ugly guys because I don't try to date them, if they drop out the dating race I wouldn't notice the difference
Ugly guys should just have better personalities. Or lead with their wallet. :cool:
 

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If you are willing to have relatively low standards AND live in an area with a decent OLD pool this is not all that unrealistic.

I knew a guy that was living in a college town when he was in his early to mid 20s who got a lot of action from OLD, particularly tinder. He was a real life 7 for his age, was 6'+, decently handsome and looked like an average guy you'd see that played pickup basketball games at the gym. I had this preconceived notion that he was pulling a bunch of cute or even hot women from OLD, but I was totally incorrect. Most of the women he pulled from there were honestly average looking, in fact I'd even add that a good portion of them were below average and something I'd never be interested in. The key to this success though is that he was willing to lower his standards by quite a bit when it came to shorter term type flings. The real relationships that he did end up having though were women that were fairly similar to him in regards to attractiveness.

You probably banged a lot of fatties or left over women that you met with OLD sources. There's nothing wrong with this, but don't pretend you were landing quality women left and right.
I don't have low standards. I will never bang a fat chick and I typically will not even bother messaging anyone I consider under a 6. Usually 6's and 7's and a handful of 8's sprinkled in.

But nice try tho...of course any one who has success but you don't "must have low standards".

Perhaps I just actually know how to make women interested in meeting me and then interested in them fvcking me?

Nah...that can't be it tho...that's not possible...haha

Hint...knowing how to hold a conversation and being fun and exciting in your interactions with women goes a lot farther than most men think. Just a hint...just a hint
 
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Men frequently err by talking too much. They often monopolize conversations, droning on and on about topics that bore women to tears. They think they're impressing the women when, in reality, they're depressing the women.

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Dude you have way too much time on your hands, if you spent the time you use to post here (and I’m sure other places) to do pushups and get an online degree you’d not be our resident self-proclaimed incel, I’d say volcel at this point. How many pushups today?
30 pushups. Already have a degree. Most (not all to be fair) negative experiences from women are in the workplace. If you have a white collar job and are treated like crap by women at work then what point are you trying to make about a degree? All a good job will do in that case is enable tla sub 5 to afford an expensive doll (that is allowed in discussion still?)
 
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You seem like making fun of them. Do you like kicking people who are already down?
Iron sharpens Iron, you can level up or continue to whine
When it's 2040 you still gonna be on this forum crying and whining about women?
Heck ya Imma laugh at you then
 

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30 pushups. Already have a degree. Most (not all to be fair) negative experiences from women are in the workplace. If you have a white collar job and are treated like crap by women at work then what point are you trying to make about a degree? All a good job will do in that case is enable tla sub 5 to afford an expensive doll (that is allowed in discussion still?)
Yeah and your degree nets you a job you have complained about incessantly as being low pay. Man you just don’t get it.

Have you ever considered changing your username to Platitudes?
 

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Yeah and your degree nets you a job you have complained about incessantly as being low pay. Man you just don’t get it.

Have you ever considered changing your username to Platitudes?
Ok, I am going to join another Real Estate broker who focuses on downsizing seniors. Since I am patient and my folks are very old so the solution is to switch brokerages. Having a buried Real Estate license where you can make thousands to ten thousands after a sale is not nice while working at a lower wage job at the same time.
 

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