Fenderules said:a little off topic but im just curious about how many dudes on here smoke pot or do other drugs.
i'll smoke pot but thats it. Not meth or E, Acid or wutever. Those are things i dont want to be involvoed with.
here in canada dope is everywhere, more people my age smoke it then dont. Is it the same for you guys where you live?
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that sounds more like crack/freebase than coke. I've done both (regretfully). I don't lite the pipe anymore but a might do a gram of coke if i am with the right lady... there is no comedown and when you are done you are done (unlike crack like I said) and the sex is that much better.PlasticSurgeon said:This is rich boy land and sure enough, there's more coke here than Columbia.
I went through a whole coke phase, it seamed like the ultimate party drug, an amazing rush, you feel so powerful, so on top of the world, you can talk to anyone, you feel motivated....
But then comes the dark side. The craving for more. The irritability, the anxiety, the paranoia, the nose bleeds, the come down..
And nothing beats that feeling of complete guilt and regret the morning after when the sun comes up and you haven't fallen asleep and you know you won't fall asleep again for at least another day...
Hey, at least I never went on week long binges like the rest of my friends.
Despite what Rick James says, cocaine is not a helluva drug. It's your worst nightmare, white slavery.
jonwon said:Pot effects your short term memory, one does not need to read a scientific journel to see that. Heavy pot smokers will back up this claim, they suffer really bad memory issues, reasons why you will see University kids drop out of courses, school work suffering and your job stagnating.
I could post shi* loads of examples of heavy pot users, who swear there is no harm whislt they stack shelfs in tescos with a degree, or who work on a pot wash machine or are delivery drivers and happen to loose there dam keys too many times.
The case where soft drugs leads to hard drugs is also especcially true, most claim this is BS but knowing first hand how this works, from seeing mates go down this route i know this is a FACT.
Soft drugs, makes you form a community with like minded people, there is nothing better then having a smoke with a buddie, the community gets bigger as it grows more people come in and eventually some-one offers somethign new to the table, people try it, the peer pressure kicks in and others give in and try the new drug and before you know it, you have some soft drug takers, smoking crack.
I have seen whole community's fall to shi* for the above reason, what started out as teenagers experimenting in drugs ended up in deliquents who would rob from there own mother to feed there habit.
Drugs are for loosers, any way shape or form.
Drugs are there to help you either escape reality or give you a boost of confidence.
both are fake:
reality escaping, you cant escape reality by taking drugs, your simply making it worse, you come back with a thump and have done NOTHING to change reality instead you are nothing more then a DRUNK, accepting there lot, drugs will keep you in that poor reality!
False confidence boost, granted you may feel great on drugs, but once off it the high is replace with a new LOW! You can get fixed on the high.
If you did not take drugs and concentrated on building up your confidence by normal methods, you will get a steady return instead of an up and down fix that is false. It is far wiser to gain a 100% confidence boost at all times that a 25% boost at odd times! It makes more sense to work on your issues to become a solid individual then hide under the mask of drugs.
Drugs again are for looser, who cant attain any level of self respect.
there is not reason any one should take drugs other then the weak minded.
Yes soft drugs can be ok, but most of the time these are abused.
I see people compare drink to canab' the difference drinkers normally moderate there intake, where as heavy can users, do it daily, for a drinker they are called DRUNKS.
There is no room for drugs, if you have your shi8 together.
As for Bill Hicks, yeh he was good and had some very interesting points, but i dont agree with what he says in alot of situation, i think MR Hicks grew around the tinted glow of drugs and never was introduced to the real effects drugs have. He had money and the position to see drugs in a better light then most, the average person drugs are just fuc*ing bad news full stop.
I have dumped girls for taking drugs and left mates for it also, i dislike drugs and i base this on experiance and not some glamorized media theory and i know i have good reasons.
As for Cok' well if your rich and have the money do what you like, but doing coke on a normal salarie is just fuc*ing retarded tbh. Yeh the effects of cok' aint that bad, but people usually take more and more and more and more and more, until there nose caves in and there money is spent on some fix! Hence a slave!
I repeat doing drugs is for loosers, i dont have much respect for druggies
Look bud that was a post about drugs in general and if regardless what i sound like to you, i base my post on EXPERIANCE and not some BS that as been thrown around that is prominent in your post.backbreaker said:spoken like it came from a drug campaign.
drugs are DRUGS becuase the media wants you to think of them that way. I admit to hitting the pipe, and luckly I didn't do it long enough to develop that craving that comes from long time use... but to say drugs are all bad is you not knowing one iota what you are talking about.
When you get your teeth pulled, do you get a shot of morphiene to ease the pain? That's a drudge, but you must be a user to take it.. as a matter of fact, cocaine once did the job of morphine, which should be ovbious if you tried it, because within 10 minutes of doing a really good line you can't swallow, as you throat is num.
I was plenty confident when I wasn't or when I don' tuse drugs. I very rarely use drugs (if ever) around the company of other people, expect for the occasional drink. I have a few female friends who like to "party" and I "party" with them from time to time.
As far as coke, it's addictive, but it's as addictive as alcohol is.. which is not that much. I can/can do an 8ball right now, and when i'm out, assuming I'm not geeked to the point where I can't sleep, have a drink and go to bed and be done. What you are reffering to is called the comedown, and if you have never done ANY DRUG in your life it can be pretty bad I guess, it's not that bad. The comedown using freebase is the worst ever.. you HAVE to have more. It got to the point when I would take pills 2 or so hours to knock me out when I knew I would be done so I wouldn't have to deal with the comedown (which is when I knew i needed to stop) it's when you cut it with baking soda and make freebase and smoke it is what gets you. Crack and heroin are the two most addictive drugs on the face of this earth. heroin is the only physically addictive drug, the only drug where after an extended use of time, you literary can't quit or you would die (something you couldn't get me to try if you put a gun to my head also)
If I had a son right now, if I found out he was doing coke, I would talk to him about it (obviously) and would monitor his usage to make sure it was recreational, but wouldn't make him stop, as long as he can keep it recreational.
Hey i think i was maybe a little too harsh on you i apologise, its just this forum attracts alot of people who dont have there world sorted out.backbreaker said:lol, a crack head and a coke head are two different things.
I will be the first to ad mit, if I used CRACK (whcih is not coke) often, I could not control it.
they are not the same thing, it's techically the same drug, just a different form. But cocaine and freebase are two different things. WAY different. not even close to being in the same ball park.
and everyone gets drawn to crack the same way. You have 50 bucks on you. you want to party. 50 bucks in coke will buy a gram if you are lucky and it won't last 2-3 hours. but then the dealers says "man try this hard I got, I'll give you a good deal and it will last longer". Normally you can get 2 grams for about 60, but the dealer will cut you a deal (to let you try it) and give you 2.5ish grams for 50 dollars, or even an 8ball, knowing full and damn well you will be coming back for more. so you say, what the hell, I mean... it's here... **** it, let me give it a try.
Then you make some BS pipe, because you don't know how, or maybe you are lucky (or if you aren't lucky, however you want to look at it) you are with someone who has smoked before. so you take the first hit, and you light it like you would a bong and you do it and you say to yoruself "this is what everyone is talking about? This sucks" (becuase you have no idea what you are doing). Plus your tolerance isn't anything so at the pace you are at it's oging ot take you 2 days to smoke what you have. Then somehow you run into someone who knows what they are doing, and they show you how to tote the pipe, how to move the flame, how to hold the pipe, how to blow out, and you take that hit, that changes your life, for better or for worse.
For me, I had my "party date".. not really a date, we would just get an 8ball or so and sit and home and watch movies, drink, do lines and have sex. So I gave her the money to get the "party favors" and she comes back with hard instead of soft, saying "this is all I could find". Me never seeing it before really couldn't tell the difference, exepct for it wasn't as much (at least from my visual standpoint) and that was that, tried it, wasn't the BEST high I ever had but was definatly a high (See above) and we ****ed like rabbits the entire night.
if my son was on CRACK, I would take him to a DA meeting and watch him like a hawk for 6 months.
However you said something that I do want to compliment you on, and I 100% agree with. When i sat down and thought about it, I never really had thaqt much more fun when doing drugs then when I don't. like right now. I get a thrill out of life because of what I do, what I have turned myself into, what I have accomplished. you get a RUSH from doing lines of coke, but it's not BETTER, it just DIFFERENT. But not better. I was never one of those guys that did it to "get away", more to "enhance a party" type of guy, but when I noticed that I really wasn't enhancing anything, i wasn't as entrhilled to it anymore. not tos ay that I don't do it AT all anymore, maybe 1 time every 2 months or so... however I am probably going to call it quits for the aforementioned reasoning, but you get where I am going.
I'm not FOR drugs, don't get that impression... however I'm a firm believer that everyone has to walk their own path. All the Just say no slogans in the world couldn't hold a candle to when I took that first pipe hit and the rush it gives you, and the comedown afterwards. Then after that, and only than, being explosed to that, I could see if it was worth going on using this, the ramifications of it and what could possibly happen. Lucky I was able to do that.
people who are hooked on the high are 90% people of them ime who have nothing to live for, or at least that's what they think. The (Crack) high
Wow dude so you only did cocaine? or did you do crack too? You must have done a lot if your nose started to bleed. My friend does it in highschool and he told me that one line costs 50 bucks for him. It's def a drug for rich ppl. I'm def sticking to alcohol, seen way too many kids f*ck up their life on weed and shrooms. They can't even think straight anymore and a lot of dropouts tend to smoke weed everyday.PlasticSurgeon said:This is rich boy land and sure enough, there's more coke here than Columbia.
I went through a whole coke phase, it seamed like the ultimate party drug, an amazing rush, you feel so powerful, so on top of the world, you can talk to anyone, you feel motivated....
But then comes the dark side. The craving for more. The irritability, the anxiety, the paranoia, the nose bleeds, the come down..
And nothing beats that feeling of complete guilt and regret the morning after when the sun comes up and you haven't fallen asleep and you know you won't fall asleep again for at least another day...
Hey, at least I never went on week long binges like the rest of my friends.
Despite what Rick James says, cocaine is not a helluva drug. It's your worst nightmare, white slavery.