How am I meant to cope at 5'4?

[zekko]

I was always amazed that this 6'4" was never with women taller than 5'7". If I were 6'4", I would be totally into those 5'9"-6'2" type women. I tend to find tall-ish, athletic women attractive but he apparently doesn't and he's always been well suited for that group.

I don't find tall women attractive. It's good that others do though. For me, shorter women seem to radiate their femininity more. But I know some men find tall women appealing.

 

[biggoal]

‘I have seen the future and it works.’

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Most on old are fatties or in the 90 percent i mentioned. Covered in tats, baggage, single moms.

 

[bat soup]

i genuinely can not cope at this height man.

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90% of women will reject me based off height alone (im 163cm)

and that doesnt include all the ones who will reject me for face, career, other things

And the 10% who do accept will probably be the fat or deformed ones. and why would they date me when a 5'4 guy is so rare. and so ****. but a 5'10 guy is so common, and perfect, and they can easily get them

but height doesnt just effect dating life

it effects social life too. no one wants to be seen with the 5'4 guy. easy target for bullying. will be disrespected everywhere and by everyone

im not treated like an actual human. im treated like vermin, at my last job, on my first day none of the women would even say hi to me, they just purposely completely blanked me. before i even got to open my mouth.

and 1 of them didnt say a word to me for the entire 6 months i was there even tho we worked right next to eachother. she'd give 1 word replies and lok at me in disgust if i tried to make convo. but then she'd go and speak to all staff members and all customers like a normal person.

I cant even cope with money. short guys are statistically WAYYY less likely to be CEO's or earn more money.

Literally every odd is against me in every part of life just because i was born with slightly shorter limbs.

Also some guy got mad at me saying these things are happening to me because of my mindset.

My mindset was fine, the experiences in my life caused me to have this mindset

no dad or anyone to help, just a fat jobless retarded single mother to 'raise' me.

its like i was born with a 100x worse life then just left to it, with no help, its cruel. and all the people living the 100x better lives than me live right next to me, everywere in the world. im the only one, and ive just got to watch as everyone but me enjoys life

im lost, i dont know what to do,

What you have to do is jump up into the air whilst saying your pickup line of choice.

If you time it right you'll be higher than her at the moment you reach the neg.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

How am I meant to cope at 5'4

Famous people who are 5'4, and they found ways to cope.

Kevin Hart
Jason Alexander (George Costanza)
Martin Scorsese (5'3)
Truman Capote
Mel Brooks
Napoleon
Stalin (5'5)
James Madison (President)
Paul Simon (5'3)
Prince (5'2)
Andrew Carnegie (OG Robber Baron)

 

[SW15]

I don't find tall women attractive. It's good that others do though. For me, shorter women seem to radiate their femininity more. But I know some men find tall women appealing.

Yes, I am definitely into those taller women. But since I am 5'10", I'm not well positioned for them. I gave up on the sand volleyball thing for instance. I tend to spend more time pursuing women 5'7" and below now because my odds are better there. Playing to the odds is a good decision.

Even among shorter women as compared to my height, I am more turned on by 5'6"-5'8" women than 5'1"-5'3" women, though I would get plenty turned by the 5'1"-5'3" women.

 

[Plinco]

How am I meant to cope at 5'4

Famous people who are 5'4, and they found ways to cope.

Kevin Hart
Jason Alexander (George Costanza)
Martin Scorsese (5'3)
Truman Capote
Mel Brooks
Napoleon
Stalin (5'5)
James Madison (President)
Paul Simon (5'3)
Prince (5'2)
Andrew Carnegie (OG Robber Baron)

Napoleon was normal height, but I get your point. +1

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Most on old are fatties or in the 90 percent i mentioned. Covered in tats, baggage, single moms.

I’ve been off it for two years. So It may have gone downhill hard.
However, if OLD is that bad, why don’t guys just ignore it?
Seems like sour grapes to me.

 

[biggoal]

I’ve been off it for two years. So It may have gone downhill hard.
However, if OLD is that bad, why don’t guys just ignore it?
Seems like sour grapes to me.

Because for some thats all they have to work with. There are countless threads about old on here. It seems la and nyc have lots of hotties on it based on threads on here. Many areas outside of thag quality is terrible

 

[SW15]

Not sure if I posted this here or another forum but for me and a few other women I know, I actually prefer a shorter man, say between 5'8" - 6'.

Not that that's short but it's shorter than what another poster said about women preferring 6'1" plus and not even considering a man shorter than that.

The average height of a man in the United States is 5'9".

The demographic that seems to be the fussiest about height is non-Hispanic white women. To be more specific, it is often non-Hispanic white women with a BA/BS degree or higher living in metro areas with populations over 750,000.

The white women I just described above tend to give strong preference to men 6'0" and over. Many flat out reject men under 6'0". This is most commonly seen on swipe apps. In the real world, it can be difficult to tell the difference between 5'11" and 6'1".

I have known multiple women under 5'2" who refused all men under 6'0". One was in my social circle before moving away and one was a former co-worker.

That is cool that you don't flat out dismiss all men under 6'0".

Also, tall be can awkward and gawky, I've seen very tall guys who are gawky as hell.

Not my cup of tea.

When women are thinking about 6'0"+ men, they aren't thinking about the gawky men.

 

[biggoal]

The average height of a man in the United States is 5'9".

The demographic that seems to be the fussiest about height is non-Hispanic white women. To be more specific, it is often non-Hispanic white women with a BA/BS degree or higher living in metro areas with populations over 750,000.

The white women I just described above tend to give strong preference to men 6'0" and over. Many flat out reject men under 6'0". This is most commonly seen on swipe apps. In the real world, it can be difficult to tell the difference between 5'11" and 6'1".

I have known multiple women under 5'2" who refused all men under 6'0". One was in my social circle before moving away and one was a former co-worker.

That is cool that you don't flat out dismiss all men under 6'0".



When women are thinking about 6'0"+ men, they aren't thinking about the gawky men.

Skinny tall ones tend to come across as clumsy, and goofy. Chris Pronger of the Blues was a good example when he was young the fans made fun of him. Same with Chara.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

The average height of a man in the United States is 5'9".

The demographic that seems to be the fussiest about height is non-Hispanic white women. To be more specific, it is often non-Hispanic white women with a BA/BS degree or higher living in metro areas with populations over 750,000.

The white women I just described above tend to give strong preference to men 6'0" and over. Many flat out reject men under 6'0". This is most commonly seen on swipe apps. In the real world, it can be difficult to tell the difference between 5'11" and 6'1".

I have known multiple women under 5'2" who refused all men under 6'0". One was in my social circle before moving away and one was a former co-worker.

That is cool that you don't flat out dismiss all men under 6'0".

For every anecdote, there is an equal and opposite anecdote.

Had two recent LTRs with White women with BA’s (one 5’2”) We live in a highly populated area.
My GF is 5’. One of my LTRs was 5’1”.

I’m well under 6’.

 

[Genetic Error]

and even then those relationships most likley won't be genuine.

so ur saying ill never get a genuine relationship?

 

[Genetic Error]

Not sure if I posted this here or another forum but for me and a few other women I know, I actually prefer a shorter man, say between 5'8" - 6'.

Not that that's short but it's shorter than what another poster said about women preferring 6'1" plus and not even considering a man shorter than that.

Simply not true across the board.

I'd even go shorter, say 5'6" as long as he's in tip top physical shape, think Brad Pitt in Fight Club and I'm in!!

His physique and taking pride in keeping in great physical shape is much more important to me than height.

His height he can't help. His physique he can, he has total control of that and keeping in shape scores big points with me and other women I know for that reason.

Also, tall be can awkward and gawky, I've seen very tall guys who are gawky as hell.

Not my cup of tea.

so u basically just admitted im ****ed. but i agree. roughtly 5'7 is the absolute cut off. and if ur that height u have to make up for it with nice bod and face etc.

but nothing can make up for 5'4. i know. but what do u even think i should do now?

 

[Genetic Error]

Oh stop it. Did you read my previous post about my 5'4" boss, the lawyer with a knockout wife?

I'd go 5'4" if he had a great toned physique and great energy, which you or any man has control of. .

I'd have to meet him and be attracted to him for those reasons, I would not rule ANY man out on height alone.

Stop being such a defeatist it's not a good look. Way WAY worse than being 5'4".

what do you mean by great energy?

 

[SW15]

For every anecdote, there is an equal and opposite anecdote.

Had two recent LTRs with White women with BA’s (one 5’2”) We live in a highly populated area.
My GF is 5’. One of my LTRs was 5’1”.

I’m well under 6’.

Most women 5'0"-5'3" have reasonable expectations about height but there is a vocal minority of short, educated, white women in big cities who are obnoxious about things.

In fact I'm thinking of a man right now, he's around 5'7" and has HUGE, um, hands. Lol

I was at a party in freshman year of college at an off campus house and a 5'7" guy randomly pulled down his pants to show off his erection and it was HUGE. It did look like a porn star penis. I think everyone at that party was surprised that he did that and that it was big.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Most women 5'0"-5'3" have reasonable expectations about height but there is a vocal minority of short, educated, white women in big cities who are obnoxious about things.

Perhaps, they eliminate me. And I eliminate them?

 

[Hamurabimbi]

The average height of a man in the United States is 5'9".

The demographic that seems to be the fussiest about height is non-Hispanic white women. To be more specific, it is often non-Hispanic white women with a BA/BS degree or higher living in metro areas with populations over 750,000.

The white women I just described above tend to give strong preference to men 6'0" and over. Many flat out reject men under 6'0". This is most commonly seen on swipe apps. In the real world, it can be difficult to tell the difference between 5'11" and 6'1".

I have known multiple women under 5'2" who refused all men under 6'0". One was in my social circle before moving away and one was a former co-worker.

That is cool that you don't flat out dismiss all men under 6'0".



When women are thinking about 6'0"+ men, they aren't thinking about the gawky men.

I would also say that if one is White, Hispanic women are much more likely to find you attractive. Irrespective of height.

 

[B80]

For me that would mean confident, creative, bold, funny, even a bit brash.

A certain charisma and charm which comes from high confidence.

Prince had great energy and style.

He was 5'3" and dated some of the most beautiful famous women in the world, women who could date anyone.

Kim Basinger at her peak quit Hollywood to live with him.

Honestly and I don't mean to be harsh but it's not your height that turns off women. I think men like to use that excuse to avoid looking within.

It's the poor me, I'm too short attitude. Not sure what you can do to change it but I would try.

Perhaps you can get in the best physical shape of your life and change your style, but also more importantly change your mindset.

Start seeing the glass half full instead of half empty.

Experiment with changing your approach and pay attention to the results.

Make changes as necessary and observe.

I do attract a lot of men and it's not just looks. A lot of what I learned comes from experimenting with different responses and how I interact with men.

I've made mistakes but I LEARNED. Now it all comes naturally, I don't even think about it.

As a man, you can do the same.

Exactly, a lot of it comes down to presence, vibe, confidence, masculinity etc.

All things being equal, being tall is no doubt an advantage, but rarely are all things equal.

Like you say, I've known plenty of 6"2+ awkward, geeky type men and theres no way they're having success with decent looking women. I also know/knew men under 5"6 who do extremely well with women, including night club/bar environments.

If you don;t have a strong personality, decent looks, physique or status, you will struggle as a short guy - but you also would as a tall chap too.

 

[Striker_93]

I feel you, but you only have 2 options, willow in self pity and have a "woe it's me" attitude and live a life of mediocrity and pain OR learn to embrace your shortcomings(no pun intended)

We all have insecurities and things we don't like about ourselves but you better learn to deal with it and embrace it, ask yourself what you think the more manly thing to do is.......

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

Guys who are under 5'8 or so definitely have a disadvantage, and if you're 5'4 you really did get the short end of the stick (no pun intended).

I say this as someone who is a hair over 6', too. I remember once I talked to a 6' woman on OLD who literally insulted my height when I made a joke about her wearing high heels around me (she straight up sent "hahaha you think you're tall?" and unmatched me). Self-centered/solipsistic/BPD women literally do not see other shorter men as human beings.

Sure, mindset can change things, and not all women care about height - but men who insist people like OP just need to "be different" are missing the point - it's still a huge disadvantage to overcome. It goes without saying that, wealth, status, charm, CAN overcome it, but to deny they don't have an innate disadvantage is just dumb.

That said, if I had to pick between being 5'4 and having a 7.5" **** or being 6'3 with a 2" ****, I'd probably pick the former. All I can say is be grateful for what you have.