How am I meant to cope at 5'4?

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I think too many men on here are too into OLD and this is what is causing these issues having to think about our height, weight, income, etc.

I don't understand it. I constantly see out of shape men, lower income, etc. men with hot chicks constantly, even in this area of FL that is old peoples heaven. Just today saw solid HB9 skinny girl with a guy about 5 years older and out of shape. Not obese but out of shape and much lower than her. Usually everyone on here uses a cope and makes an excuse for it.

I doubt they meet from OLD. over 90 percent of the women on OLD are not hotties so obviously these men are not meeting from dating sites because these women are hotter than most of the women on there.
 

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There's SOME taller women that actually perfer shorter men, maybe bc they feel a bit out of place themselves being taller than the average woman, which some would say is "less feminine."

You can get shoe lifts.

Go to the gym and start hustling and building muscle.

But honestly a lot of women are gonna expect short and ugly men to compensate for what theh lack, and even then those relationships most likley won't be genuine. I feel for really short dudes, I'm definitely not considered " tall" to these women myself (5'9.5) but I try to be genuinely nice and kind to "make up" for it, Not saying if I was 6'6 I'd be a whole d*ck head, but many women just like actually genuine and normal nice (but NOT pushover) men, or atleast that's what works for me.

Good luck, don't put all your energy into trying to pull women, have some hobbies and side activities that make you genuinely happy to indulge in so you don't get so frustrated about the women situation.
 

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I agree that this isn't an easy story to believe. At 5'10", I would need exceptional charisma or exceptional lifestyle status symbols to pull it off. It's more feasible for me as a 5'10" guy to bang a 6'0"-6'1" woman than it is for a 5'7" guy.
I'm 5'10" and I have zero interest in banging a 6'0" girl. It would be like having sex with Frankenstein.
 

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I'm 5'10"
I'm 5'10" and I have zero interest in banging a 6'0" girl. It would be like having sex with Frankenstein.
The tallest woman I've ever had sex with is a 5'11" woman. She was a former college volleyball player so she was into the whole volleyball thing that I was into many years back. That did feel a bit unusual. I have had sex with 5'8"-5'9" women and that felt more regular. Since I am good at athletics, I tend to have things in common with women on the taller side, who tend to play a sport well. Women who are 5'6" and shorter may be fit and that's good but they are less likely to be good at a sport like tennis or sand volleyball.

One of my friends who is 6'4" was a teammate in an organized sand volleyball league. I was always amazed that this 6'4" guy was never with women taller than 5'7". If I were 6'4", I would be totally into those 5'9"-6'2" type women. I tend to find tall-ish, athletic women attractive but he apparently doesn't and he's always been well suited for that group.

In fact, years ago in Miami, I slept with a woman much taller than me (must've been at least 6 feet). Hilariously enough, I did mention to her that she was a bit taller than me. "I don't give a **** if you don't," was her response. At the night's end, she treated my Weiner with passion and energy,
For the record, it was social circle game. My buddy and his girl brought along the jolly green giant who I then slept with later that night.
Social circle game like what you describe is easier than meeting women on the taller side from participating in sand volleyball leagues and playing pickup sand volleyball games.

There's SOME taller women that actually perfer shorter men, maybe bc they feel a bit out of place themselves being taller than the average woman, which some would say is "less feminine."
In my experience in the sand volleyball scene, this was not common. While I did make things happen in the scene, most of the women gave me the cold shoulder. When I did make things happen, it was due to my charisma.

Most men are not going to be running into tall women unless they are involved with something that puts them around former college athletes or models.
 
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I think too many men on here are too into OLD and this is what is causing these issues having to think about our height, weight, income, etc.

I don't understand it. I constantly see out of shape men, lower income, etc. men with hot chicks constantly, even in this area of FL that is old peoples heaven. Just today saw solid HB9 skinny girl with a guy about 5 years older and out of shape. Not obese but out of shape and much lower than her. Usually everyone on here uses a cope and makes an excuse for it.

I doubt they meet from OLD. over 90 percent of the women on OLD are not hotties so obviously these men are not meeting from dating sites because these women are hotter than most of the women on there.
‘I have seen the future and it works.’

 

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I was always amazed that this 6'4" was never with women taller than 5'7". If I were 6'4", I would be totally into those 5'9"-6'2" type women. I tend to find tall-ish, athletic women attractive but he apparently doesn't and he's always been well suited for that group.
I don't find tall women attractive. It's good that others do though. For me, shorter women seem to radiate their femininity more. But I know some men find tall women appealing.
 

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i genuinely can not cope at this height man.

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90% of women will reject me based off height alone (im 163cm)

and that doesnt include all the ones who will reject me for face, career, other things

And the 10% who do accept will probably be the fat or deformed ones. and why would they date me when a 5'4 guy is so rare. and so ****. but a 5'10 guy is so common, and perfect, and they can easily get them

but height doesnt just effect dating life

it effects social life too. no one wants to be seen with the 5'4 guy. easy target for bullying. will be disrespected everywhere and by everyone

im not treated like an actual human. im treated like vermin, at my last job, on my first day none of the women would even say hi to me, they just purposely completely blanked me. before i even got to open my mouth.

and 1 of them didnt say a word to me for the entire 6 months i was there even tho we worked right next to eachother. she'd give 1 word replies and lok at me in disgust if i tried to make convo. but then she'd go and speak to all staff members and all customers like a normal person.

I cant even cope with money. short guys are statistically WAYYY less likely to be CEO's or earn more money.

Literally every odd is against me in every part of life just because i was born with slightly shorter limbs.

Also some guy got mad at me saying these things are happening to me because of my mindset.

My mindset was fine, the experiences in my life caused me to have this mindset

no dad or anyone to help, just a fat jobless retarded single mother to 'raise' me.

its like i was born with a 100x worse life then just left to it, with no help, its cruel. and all the people living the 100x better lives than me live right next to me, everywere in the world. im the only one, and ive just got to watch as everyone but me enjoys life

im lost, i dont know what to do,
What you have to do is jump up into the air whilst saying your pickup line of choice.

If you time it right you'll be higher than her at the moment you reach the neg.
 

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How am I meant to cope at 5'4

Famous people who are 5'4, and they found ways to cope.

Kevin Hart
Jason Alexander (George Costanza)
Martin Scorsese (5'3)
Truman Capote
Mel Brooks
Napoleon
Stalin (5'5)
James Madison (President)
Paul Simon (5'3)
Prince (5'2)
Andrew Carnegie (OG Robber Baron)
 

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I don't find tall women attractive. It's good that others do though. For me, shorter women seem to radiate their femininity more. But I know some men find tall women appealing.
Yes, I am definitely into those taller women. But since I am 5'10", I'm not well positioned for them. I gave up on the sand volleyball thing for instance. I tend to spend more time pursuing women 5'7" and below now because my odds are better there. Playing to the odds is a good decision.

Even among shorter women as compared to my height, I am more turned on by 5'6"-5'8" women than 5'1"-5'3" women, though I would get plenty turned by the 5'1"-5'3" women.
 

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How am I meant to cope at 5'4

Famous people who are 5'4, and they found ways to cope.

Kevin Hart
Jason Alexander (George Costanza)
Martin Scorsese (5'3)
Truman Capote
Mel Brooks
Napoleon
Stalin (5'5)
James Madison (President)
Paul Simon (5'3)
Prince (5'2)
Andrew Carnegie (OG Robber Baron)
Napoleon was normal height, but I get your point. +1
 

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Most on old are fatties or in the 90 percent i mentioned. Covered in tats, baggage, single moms.
I’ve been off it for two years. So It may have gone downhill hard.
However, if OLD is that bad, why don’t guys just ignore it?
Seems like sour grapes to me.
 

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I’ve been off it for two years. So It may have gone downhill hard.
However, if OLD is that bad, why don’t guys just ignore it?
Seems like sour grapes to me.
Because for some thats all they have to work with. There are countless threads about old on here. It seems la and nyc have lots of hotties on it based on threads on here. Many areas outside of thag quality is terrible
 

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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Not sure if I posted this here or another forum but for me and a few other women I know, I actually prefer a shorter man, say between 5'8" - 6'.

Not that that's short but it's shorter than what another poster said about women preferring 6'1" plus and not even considering a man shorter than that.
The average height of a man in the United States is 5'9".

The demographic that seems to be the fussiest about height is non-Hispanic white women. To be more specific, it is often non-Hispanic white women with a BA/BS degree or higher living in metro areas with populations over 750,000.

The white women I just described above tend to give strong preference to men 6'0" and over. Many flat out reject men under 6'0". This is most commonly seen on swipe apps. In the real world, it can be difficult to tell the difference between 5'11" and 6'1".

I have known multiple women under 5'2" who refused all men under 6'0". One was in my social circle before moving away and one was a former co-worker.

That is cool that you don't flat out dismiss all men under 6'0".

Also, tall be can awkward and gawky, I've seen very tall guys who are gawky as hell.

Not my cup of tea.
When women are thinking about 6'0"+ men, they aren't thinking about the gawky men.
 

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The average height of a man in the United States is 5'9".

The demographic that seems to be the fussiest about height is non-Hispanic white women. To be more specific, it is often non-Hispanic white women with a BA/BS degree or higher living in metro areas with populations over 750,000.

The white women I just described above tend to give strong preference to men 6'0" and over. Many flat out reject men under 6'0". This is most commonly seen on swipe apps. In the real world, it can be difficult to tell the difference between 5'11" and 6'1".

I have known multiple women under 5'2" who refused all men under 6'0". One was in my social circle before moving away and one was a former co-worker.

That is cool that you don't flat out dismiss all men under 6'0".



When women are thinking about 6'0"+ men, they aren't thinking about the gawky men.
Skinny tall ones tend to come across as clumsy, and goofy. Chris Pronger of the Blues was a good example when he was young the fans made fun of him. Same with Chara.
 

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The average height of a man in the United States is 5'9".

The demographic that seems to be the fussiest about height is non-Hispanic white women. To be more specific, it is often non-Hispanic white women with a BA/BS degree or higher living in metro areas with populations over 750,000.

The white women I just described above tend to give strong preference to men 6'0" and over. Many flat out reject men under 6'0". This is most commonly seen on swipe apps. In the real world, it can be difficult to tell the difference between 5'11" and 6'1".

I have known multiple women under 5'2" who refused all men under 6'0". One was in my social circle before moving away and one was a former co-worker.

That is cool that you don't flat out dismiss all men under 6'0".
For every anecdote, there is an equal and opposite anecdote.

Had two recent LTRs with White women with BA’s (one 5’2”) We live in a highly populated area.
My GF is 5’. One of my LTRs was 5’1”.

I’m well under 6’.
 

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Not sure if I posted this here or another forum but for me and a few other women I know, I actually prefer a shorter man, say between 5'8" - 6'.

Not that that's short but it's shorter than what another poster said about women preferring 6'1" plus and not even considering a man shorter than that.

Simply not true across the board.

I'd even go shorter, say 5'6" as long as he's in tip top physical shape, think Brad Pitt in Fight Club and I'm in!!

His physique and taking pride in keeping in great physical shape is much more important to me than height.

His height he can't help. His physique he can, he has total control of that and keeping in shape scores big points with me and other women I know for that reason.

Also, tall be can awkward and gawky, I've seen very tall guys who are gawky as hell.

Not my cup of tea.
so u basically just admitted im ****ed. but i agree. roughtly 5'7 is the absolute cut off. and if ur that height u have to make up for it with nice bod and face etc.

but nothing can make up for 5'4. i know. but what do u even think i should do now?
 
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