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It does not matter what “should be,” it is what it is. Most women with any sense of upbringing are not giving up sex for free. A public semi-formal date is a bare minimum.I'm of the belief when a man and women are vibing and the chemistry is there, which is typically determined on first meet/date, then it shouldn't really matter what the hell they do.
It' shouldn't be about where you go and if a chick you're vibing well with would next you because you didn't take her out to a nice restaurant on first or second date, that should be a next for you. Wreaks of entitlement.
It's about her demanding it that's the problem. I trust you understand the difference.You can't say you want a trad-con woman and can't even provide for dates. What are you thinking?
How is that different from you demanding sex?It's about her demanding it that's the problem. I trust you understand the difference.
Where did I say she's giving it up for free? Can you quote where I said or even suggested that?It does not matter what “should be,” it is what it is. Most women with any sense of upbringing are not giving up sex for free. A public semi-formal date is a bare minimum.
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It's about determining whether or not she is a high quality woman with a little or no body-count. Her demands being an issue depends more on who she is and if they are compatible.It's about her demanding it that's the problem. I trust you understand the difference.
I don't "demand" sex, and don't believe men should demand sex.How is that different from you demanding sex?
He is talking about the OP. The title of the thread is SMASH or PASS. Is that what you talk about a high quality woman or a hor?I don't "demand" sex, where are you getting this shyt? Not from anything I've posted.
@EyeBRollin quoted MY post and asked me the question. I responded.He is talking about the OP. The title of the thread is SMASH or PASS. Is that what you talk about a high quality woman or a hor?
That’s cool, and what I meant. A public date including some food and activity. That is the bare minimum expectation from most females with an upbringing. Drinks only is fine for a first meeting, but to expect most women to put out from that alone is misguided. Would we want our daughters banging random dudes from the internet that bought her one drink and spent one hour with her at a bar? We would call that slvt behavior.Again, it's about her "demanding" dinner and controlling the frame. If you're unable to understand that, I don't know what to tell ya.
There are plenty of things to do that don’t entail going to a formal restaurant. I actually know some very high quality women who dislike high end dining.
My gf is one. A cool pub with great apps, great vibe and music is more up her alley, same for me.
The only type of girl you'd ask about smashing or passing and have a negotiation of terms.We would call that slvt behavior.
The way some guys talk these days, a common girl is worth less than an escort. At least the escort has a price. Usually >$100. Guys are expecting first date sex from a drink.The only type of girl you'd ask about smashing or passing and have a negotiation of terms.
Honestly, a thread like this where someone is preoccupied about the indirect price of engaging a woman sounds like the same mindset of an escort thread.
Cool we agree.That’s cool, and what I meant. A public date including some food and activity. That is the bare minimum expectation from most females with an upbringing. Drinks only is fine for a first meeting, but to expect most women to put out from that alone is misguided. Would we want our daughters banging random dudes from the internet that bought her one drink and spent one hour with her at a bar? We would call that slvt behavior.
Here's another pro tip for guys wanting to understand women better.Do you think any chick is going to want to swallow your sausage after filling up on a $45 entree and half a bottle of wine? Unlikely. Work smart boys.
Once a woman thinks all you want is sex either by your words or actions, she may want it too, but you are going to have to pull out your wallet in one way or another.More mental investment in her bank account from the start (which increases female attraction) keeps a lot of these issues at bay.
The less happy a girl is about how she feels about you, the more she inserts herself into the situation and the less compliant she becomes.
From the start it was pretty clear that the OP made this about sex and drinking.
You either make mental deposits in their emotional bank accounts or monetary deposits.
The fact that she is now trying to dictate terms is a deal breaker for me. Not saying this girl isn't showing her true colors.
I like to get girls eating out of my hand, by developing the connection. Once I do they feel safe, are compliant, and want to please. I simply don't experience problems like this. I never mention sex either. I just set the stage for it . The suggestion for Netflix and chill didn't do you any favors. It's the wrong way to approach sex. Women aren't direct.
A man that knows how to create tingles(emotional connection)doesn't have to say anything about sex. He won't have to take her to a special restaurant in order to fuhk her either.
Do your job right and you get VIP treatment with out having to meet all the requirements and demands.
THIS X 1,000I like to get girls eating out of my hand, by developing the connection. Once I do they feel safe, are compliant, and want to please. I simply don't experience problems like this. I never mention sex either. I just set the stage for it . The suggestion for Netflix and chill didn't do you any favors. It's the wrong way to approach sex. Women aren't direct.
Spot on. I've had plenty of both. Some chicks will literally just come over to bang. No first date. Fun for sure, but also not someone I'm even going to OFFER a date to later on.Yes. If she’s not a sloot, she wants a public date where you invest something before giving it up. If you bang without a date, she is a whvre. Lot of guys don’t want to admit this but it is true.
Good is subjective. It’s a red flag if she demands a five star restaurant. Any good tasting spot should be fine.
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