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Her sudden, abrupt change in communication. What happened?

JST8828

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Well I think everyone has gathered that , But this sort of random unpredictable behaviour from a grown woman approaching 40 isn't exactly normal
Its nice to know that not everyone here has decided to play the "She faded, so you clearly did something wrong" card.

Contrary to my behavior and tone on here, I will admit that I may not have played things perfectly with this woman, and sure, maybe in her 40 year old mind and way of seeing things based on all her dating and life experience, she did lose interest, but by no means do I think I flat out "f-cked up" as SO many here have said or implied while also acting like they know every detail that occured or think that just bc I wrote in one post that I wanted to "progress more" that means I actually acted completely desperate and texted her 5x a day, etc. Please. I'm 39 years old. This isn't my first rodeo. Would I like a relationship with a great woman? Of course. Am I desperate AFC? No.

Look, we went out a good few times. I put in effort. Everything was smooth. I spent the night. I told her in writing the next day that I had a very nice time with you last night. Four days later, not four weeks later, I asked her out for a drink. Could I have asked her out the next day or two days later instead? Sure. Was asking to just get a drink the day of a little "weak" as opposed to something slightly bigger considering she just gave me sex? Yes, in retrospect it definitely could have been and probably should have been. BUT, for this woman to think that what I "did" (and this is all theoretical of course) was so wrong that she was turned off and decided at 40 years old to start slow fading without even the slightest bit of honesty over how she was feeling? To think that when I reached back out the following week and tried getting bigger plans going that she started responding with super brief answers and then didn't get back to me when she said she would? Sorry, but I have to agree that an interpersonal game like is quite immature for someone her age.

For the record, I can tell you from my own experience, when I have a change in feelings towards a woman, if she's still reaching out and doesn't get the hint, I will almost always throw some form of honesty her way in a text to let her know whats going on. To me, its just easier and saves me the time and potential anxiety of seeing her continuing to reach out.
 
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I just posted about this^, that sudden switch/turn off.

And it can happen suddenly, just like a lightswitch!

As I've matured and become more self-aware and enlightened, it happens less often but it's still true on some level.

For myself anyway, I'm not sure if all women experience it.
I was light switched by my wife and i never had experienced anything like that before from a woman.
 

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For the last two months we've gone on a few dates, four to be exact. I'm now 39, have been on many dates over the years and feel I have the distinction of being able to tell if there's really true chemistry between me and another woman over me just being infactuated with her bc she's hot/cute. This felt like something real. A connection. We're around the same age too, fyi. Anyway, after the second date specifically, which was an amazing time, she'd text me quite consistently, usually sharing something about her day. Prior to our last date, which was our fourth, she literally texted me almost everyday before we finally set up what was a nice dinner celebrating a promotion she got at work. I paid and it was a pretty penny too. She then finally invites me back to her place and I spent the night. She seemed quite adament about it too, whereas I felt maybe I would have driven home late.

The sex was decent but we both made the best of it as we both agreed that sometimes it takes getting used to each others bodies and chemistry. We eventually drifted off and she latched onto me quite a bit during the night. I know chicks like to cuddle in general, but this just felt like very, very good vibes. While it wasn't the most perfect 10/10 night imo, this also most certainly wasn't just a hang and bang atmosphere. The next morning she texted me asking if I got home ok while also sharing something about her day. She texts again the following day and then the day after THAT as well. All seemed very well and it appeared things were possibly progressing to another level now. To be clear- Early on we sort of both made it known that while ultimately we would like something long term, right now are "just looking to date". Her words which were agreed upon by me as I am in fact in a similar mindset. That said, again, here she is now having me crash at her place and texting me virtually everyday. I'd be lying if I didn't admit that I wanted things to progress more after that night. I'm not 19 anymore, after all.

Then after the multiple days of communication from her following the sleepover/sex, the next day after nothing from her for the day, I reached out and sporadically asked if she wanted to get a drink after work. I thought about asking to make plans for the weekend, but I decided on this different route for a change. She said thanks for the invite but she had to work late for something on this night. She even texted me photos of what she was doing at work that night and we talked about it. It was interesting to note however that there was NO counter offer from her here which I found a bit odd. Then, in what was the real turning point here in all of this, I did not hear from her for three days straight which felt extremely odd. We had really not gone more than 2 days in the past month or so without a text. Given how nice things were progressing before and AFTER our last date, something just felt off in my gut.

Finally I reached back out and we discussed going to see some live music. She mentioned a band she liked, asked if i'd be interested, and how she'd take a look at dates and see what she had open. 2 days went by and not a word from her. Now the vibes were really feeling negative. So I then decide to reach out mentioning something about the band we wanted to see which included some research on their schedule and how it might be difficult to see them given our work schedules. There was no hello, how are you, or any kind of thank you or dare I say apology for her not getting back to me. Instead she responded with a single short sentence randomly mentioning some other band she would want to see instead, perhaps implying that they would be a better option. Everything just felt strange and impersonal. Then she mentions a date she'd be free and it is 10 days out. Mind you we were already 10 days from our LAST date (Where i slept over). I say i'll have to look into this other band. Then she randomly mentions another band she likes too. Nothing else. Just the name of the band. I then told her ok I'd look into the other band and she simply "Liked" my text. That was that. Nothing more.

At that point it was all but confirmed to me that this was now a slow fade of sorts, with the insult to injury being that I felt as if I was now some sort of "Date Dispenser" for this woman who still might want to use me for a night out. A woman who just a week earlier at one point seemed like she was almost appearing as someone that could be a GF soon. And lastly, perhaps the most important thing to note, is aside from her short, brief and impersonal slow fade style texts after not getting back to me after saying she would, there's no mention about who might be paying for tickets to see this band or anything of the such. Suddenly I started realizing that this woman is also probably hoping I just pick up two tix so she can have a night out in the city seeing a favorite band of hers. Well, not with me, sorry, as I've been almost completely turned off by all of this at this point.

I'm trying to figure out what in the world happened here and why the momentum with this girl completely fell off, why she's now acting like a typical online sex in the city type of plate with no substance. It's interesting how gung-ho she seemed after our sex and sleepover, and then at some point in the middle of that following week, after I asked her out again for a drink, things just changed instantly leading to silence from her and now extremely impersonal and brief texts. She also has not texted me since, though its only been 1.5 days. Still, the feeling is there and this feels over. I know we may never know, but I'm convinced something actually happened and this wasn't just a random mid-week change of heart after thinking about our night spent together. I think some other guy came into the picture or something to that effect and now I instantly dropped to option #2. I could be wrong. She could just be very strange. But something has changed.
Another dude in the pic.
 
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Thank you everyone for all your responses. Genuinely appreciate most of them. Just to clear up a few things and respond to some...



If a man needs to go into every single plate never missing a single beat, making sure a date happens every single week without a miss, being a perfectionist, right up until the bedroom where apparently he has to knock it out of the park every single time, then that sounds like pretty miserable pressure that most level headed men wouldn't want to deal with. I am also certain that if a woman judged me on certain things in all that, I wouldn't want any part of that woman. With this chick, we had four very nice dates, I treated her very well, the rapport in between dates was also very nice. The sex was decent. By no means is this grounds for getting kicked to the curb. For what its worth, this chick wasn't Margot Robbie in Wolf of Wall Street btw. An average looking, well rounded woman who I'd say was at HB5.5. If she's truly done, even though there will definitely be some disppointment on my end, then it really will be F her and onto the next. I'm spinning another plate or two as we speak anyway.



You are correct. This one is toast. Well, 99% sure at least. The problem with one potentially last random text like you describe, is if you read my post, we left it off as if I'd be looking into seeing a band she likes and it seemed unofficially implied by me that I would be getting back to her after this. This is all a little unfortunate bc in no way am I paying for a ticket for this girl who went close to ice cold on me and also really sort of showed some disrespectful communication towards me when you think about it. But if we had spoke about simply grabbing a drink, well then maybe I'd bite the bullet and just go out one more time seeing how it went, while also trying to get to the bottom of her hot and cold behavior in the most subtle of ways.

Really though, I'll probably reach out saying how I'd like to see the band with her sometime and would also like to continue getting to know her, but can't help but feel like something has changed and if she ever wants to talk and catch up sometime to let me know if she's free for a drink. Its really that simple in my mind right now.


Correct, but the interesting and somewhat different thing about this woman, as I wrote in my post, was that as soon as the morning after came, and for many days thereafter, she DID contact me. To be more clear about it all for everyone, here you go... This was all of her communication following me banging her on Friday night:

Saturday morning after I got home- A text asking me not just asking if I got home alright, while also sharing stuff about what she was doing with her day.

Saturday Night- Text from her

Sunday Night- Text from her

Monday afternoon- Text from her

Tuesday night - Text from her

In all of this, I did not reach out to her ONCE mind you. My only texts were responses to hers. I was kind, casual, and a little flirty. I only referenced our sex once to which she appeared to like what I said.

It was almost a little odd at one point, I remember feeling. The almost excessive consistency of the communication. I had responded to all these texts of course and we had brief little back and forths. But overall I felt like not only was I able to take my foot off the gas a bit, but I felt 100% IN, and comfortable that things were progressing and that she was into me.

Then Wednesday after there was no communication, I asked her out Thursday late morning to do a drink after work. She was extremely nice in telling me she had to work late, and even followed up with all sorts of photos showing me what she was working on (She is proud of her work). That was it. After that exchange things were suddenly NEVER the same.


As seen above, after we had sex she texted me four days in a row. I didn't text her unprompted once in all that. Only responded to hers. I then casually asked her to get a drink. If that's "Too invested" then I guess I'd have to laugh. You probably need to read peoples posts better to understand what actually happened before offering an opinion. No offense.
Sorry Pal, you're history.
 
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Everyone already said why it happened. My advise is that, if you don’t hear from her in a week, send her a text saying “forgot about me."
Sounds as if she already has!

We can do all kinds of calculus in these situations, but, she's through with you. If you could hear the texts she sent, she's typing them in a very short, irritated voice. She doesn't want to hear from you anymore. Why? Because she, being a 5.5 give or take, got banged by a 7 or 8 who didn't want to keep her, but, she's expecting him to come back at any minute.
 

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