Help, my gf is starting to bring up marriage

[corrector]

I was Blue Pilled, Disney Princes fool. And partially it was her fault. She tried to keep me plump and away from the gym. I don't remember the numbers, but I think I went from 30% BF down to 18%. This gave me a chisled jawline and hollow cheeks and a lean face. Not to mention a decent body. Yeah. I started to process in Feb and by June I was getting hit on. I'm not a Chad. Too short. But, I've got a good face and decent body. I think the 'secret weapon' is that I look like a porn star and that gives certian women gina tingles. Maybe kind of a niche market. I definetly don't look like the All-American, tall, football playing, clean-cut, boyfriend material Chad. More like the side guy she bangs when her BF is out of town.
I lived with my Mom (I lost my apartment due to owner occupied move in), but it didnt effect girls coming over. I banged so many girls in my bed while my Mom was watching TV downstairs. And, I wasn't some young kid in his 20's.
There is a saying that Fatcels are Volcels.

What type of home is your mother's home? My home is a bungalow so everything is in one floor. My mom also poops and cleans up in the living room and is constantly interrupting me every few minutes for this or that as she's temporarily disabled. I have to micromanage my dad and control everyone's finances. The place looks like a hurricane went through it as it is very messy. So, I believe I'm quite sincere that my living situation here doesnt' lend itself to bringing women over. I also do not do any solo activities outside the home like the past, except for bike riding and my parents, and in particular my mom is super clingy and wants me back home and misses me when I'm even doing a solo activity. Therefore, I think our living situations are quite different, but I appreciate your effort. There is also one cinema space in the basement, but you have to go through allot of junk (again the hurricane thing) in order to access a small space.

I concede with the fat statement. If you feel the difference is like night and day between 30% and 18% then I have no arguement about that.
Do consider what I said about my living situation as if I feel its a fail, then I'm not going to think being fat has anything to do with it.

 

[Scaramouche]

Hi Corrector,
What a self less Guy you are!....Things look grim at the moment but be assured they will change...Ten,fifteen Years go fast enough and you will find yourself in a buyers Market...Be assured of your reward in another place!

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Mine too. Her birthday is coming up and she wants to go to Vegas. She's already implied that we should tie the knot in Vegas.

Marrying in Vegas is tacky. You're not that type of person. Basta.

 

[corrector]

I dont know what I wrote or my own state of mind but felt sick and vomitted last night and allot of stuff came out. Perhaps stomach flu or something I ate did not agree. Perhaps looking at horror tv show Ash vs Evil Dead (saw those ugly faces look like they were coming at me). Listened to religioua video and felt good enough to sleep. Guess I have to tone down the locationcel thing as its not a nice account to make.

 

[Gamisch]

I am purple pilled and I will proudly admit so. I think 99% of red pillers are just insecure purple pillers hiding behind an ideology.

Nah you are bluepilled as FECK.

Purple would mean you totally accepted the RP, but you are living and moving like a chameleon in this bluepilled oriented world.

A purple piller knows how to handle a woman's craving for marriage. Tgere are VERY few purple pillers out there. Most men are either black, bleu or red pill.

Hes a troll. Period. He **** posts all the fcking time. Why this has not been picked up by the mods on is not my gig. But come on.
Long azz posts crapping on the RP space and now needs help to avoid marriage? LOL give a god me dam break ppl

He is still an interesting case.

Because I've been there too tbh. Bluepilled while starting to learn the jargon of the RP(hence why he believes he's purpe pill).

Because the rp and manosphere is all bs and cap..UNTIL you feel the pressure of FEMALE NATURE knocking on your door...
Now is marriage, but OP can and will face more issues. Remember this rap line?

Used to see 5-0 throw the crack by the bench
Now I'm ****ing with 5-0, it's all starting to make sense.

now it starts to make sense for OP. ive been there. A crisis is needed to wake the F up and put some respect on the deep wisdom that men have shared about women and the fact 99% of the time the RP is actually RIGHt about women. If you're cruising with an obedient woman on your side ,ofcourse you'll shyte on DJ,S and incels. Untill you're one of them..

 

[BackInTheGame78]

At some point virtually every woman is going to want to get married. It's almost hardwired into her from a young age. At that point you either are going to need to do it or let her go. Continuing a relationship in "No Man's Land" with her isn't going to work and it's just time to move on.

Sorry, but that's pretty much it in terms of women and marriage. If you aren't interested in that then that's cool, just be aware pretty much all relationships have a shelf life of 4-5 years max.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

I want to continue the relationship, but I think marriage is a financial scam for both men and women. I refuse to waste 10k plus on a dumb event and let the government enter my bedroom. Not only that, but I am not sure if we both want kids and I find it completely more pointless if so.

Why not just tell her that you won't do it and that you do not need a legal paper that states "I love you" (Plus inviting the government into the relationship). It should be enough that you love her and she knows it, vice versa.

If she doesn't understand and respect that, then she is for the streets as far as I am concerned.

Same with chicks that becomes upset and refuses to sign pre-nup and post-nups. They are all for the streets.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Nah you are bluepilled as FECK.

then I’d rather be blue pilled than red pilled lmao. I was red pilled for like 90% of my twenties. My criticisms of the red pill are not just based off face value, but my actual experience with the ideology and the circumstances that lead me to leave it.

 

[Gamisch]

then I’d rather be blue pilled than red pilled lmao. I was red pilled for like 90% of my twenties. My criticisms of the red pill are not just based off face value, but my actual experience with the ideology and the circumstances that lead me to leave it.

Hmmmm.

You are aware of the route the bluepilled man will walk? Getting taken to the cleaners ,cheated on and maybe even robbed of his assets? All for WHAT??? " steady p00sy"?

You made this thread and I'll salute you for it. Because internally you know that this marriage thing = a dramatic change and probably end of the relationship. You are too smart and read too much to discard all that RP knowledge now.

You can't fake a marriage. Its way too tight to play games and pretend. Unfortunately this is the downside of the redpill: once you take it there's no way back..

 

[AureliusMaximus]

At some point virtually every woman is going to want to get married. It's almost hardwired into her from a young age.

True indeed.

But today most women just want to experience the "princess wedding experience" where she gets all the attention and are not really interested in the relationship itself. Modern women these days even have the saying between the each others "First marriage is for money; second is for love".

The once holy institution of marriage which once existed and people were in for both the "bad and good times", doesn't exist anymore and is not respected or highly valued by modern women anymore. People rather just quickly exit and give up on the relationship than working on it like our parents or grand parents did. Back then divorce was a taboo, that is not the case anymore.

 

[Gamisch]

True indeed.

But today most women just want to experience the "princess wedding experience" where she gets all the attention and are not really interested in the relationship itself. Modern women these days even have the saying between the each others "First marriage is for money; second is for love".

The once holy institution of marriage which once existed and people were in for both the "bad and good times", doesn't exist anymore and is not respected or highly valued by modern women anymore. People rather just quickly exit and give up on the relationship than working on it like our parents or grand parents did. Back then divorce was a taboo, that is not the case anymore.

God damn.

So she had a bad marriage, and instead of understanding she might've had a bad partner she completely goes the other way.

"I learned that having different sexual partners and experiences is yadiya ". Sounds like every man I've ever known who visits hookers for the first time.

Sad to see how women stimulate one another. How come they completely miss the fact that there USED to be a thing called "pair bonding ".

I'm sorry miss, but women like you are called SLVTS , and no man respects you. Ride this"- 30 something being a thot -" thing out because no man will ever take you seriously. Within 5 years her mediocre looks will fade and geuss what fellas?

Yes! She'll be crying that all the good men are gone! Meanwhile my fly whip says "VROOOOOOM" while her younger fresher and way prettier version sits next to me..

She's worthless basically and only good for cheap sex.

 

[CornbreadFed]

You are aware of the route the bluepilled man will walk? Getting taken to the cleaners ,cheated on and maybe even robbed of his assets? All for WHAT??? " steady p00sy"?

This happens to Red Pill men too. The difference is that the blue pill man brushes it off and moves on. The Red Pill man becomes extremely vindictive and bitter and lets one failed experience with women lead him down a rabbit hole of more failures. My blue pill friends are not still crying and moping about the girl that cheated on them in college while red pill men are literally obsessed with past negative experiences involving women. My dad has been divorced twice and instead of swallowing the RichCooper/CGA RP and just being a bitter bachelor man obsessed with single moms and thots, he found my stepmom, had two beautiful children, bought a brand-new house on the lake, and is planning to retire comfortably and focus on writing books. The RP is just like fascism...There is no happy ending, and it is fueled by constant paranoia and chaos.

You made this thread and I'll salute you for it. Because internally you know that this marriage thing = a dramatic change and probably end of the relationship. You are too smart and read too much to discard all that RP knowledge now.

You could be right, but I do realize that I am at the point of my life where I might have to bite the bullet. I have had sex with around 53 women in my life and been in 6 relationships. At some point you start to realize that sex is sex and how much of a waste of time and energy pointless & toxic relationships are.

You can't fake a marriage. Its way to tight to play games and pretend. Unfortunately this is the downside of the redpill: once you take it there's no way back..

You are right I cannot fake a marriage and it is a long-term game with many potential things that can ruin it. Right now, I am 99% going to stall the relationship another year and gauge my comfortability from there.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Sad to see how women stimulate one another.

Women are like sheep, they are all followers, (social creatures by nature) and not leaders. Men are leaders, creators and builders of society. They do what the crowd tells them to do as it benefits them in the social settings the are in. The importance of social acceptance is far greater than anything else and they will sell their souls for it.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

What type of home is your mother's home? My home is a bungalow so everything is in one floor. My mom also poops and cleans up in the living room and is constantly interrupting me every few minutes for this or that as she's temporarily disabled. I have to micromanage my dad and control everyone's finances. The place looks like a hurricane went through it as it is very messy. So, I believe I'm quite sincere that my living situation here doesnt' lend itself to bringing women over. I also do not do any solo activities outside the home like the past, except for bike riding and my parents, and in particular my mom is super clingy and wants me back home and misses me when I'm even doing a solo activity. Therefore, I think our living situations are quite different, but I appreciate your effort. There is also one cinema space in the basement, but you have to go through allot of junk (again the hurricane thing) in order to access a small space.

I concede with the fat statement. If you feel the difference is like night and day between 30% and 18% then I have no arguement about that.
Do consider what I said about my living situation as if I feel its a fail, then I'm not going to think being fat has anything to do with it.

Your living situation is much grimmer than mine was. I can see how difficult it must be.

 

[EyeBRollin]

OP, all women want marriage eventually. You know this….

 

[Gamisch]

This happens to Red Pill men too. The difference is that the blue pill man brushes it off and moves on. The Red Pill man becomes extremely vindictive and bitter and lets one failed experience with women lead him down a rabbit hole of more failures. My blue pill friends are not still crying and moping about the girl that cheated on them in college while red pill men are literally obsessed with past negative experiences involving women. My dad has been divorced twice and instead of swallowing the RichCooper/CGA RP and just being a bitter bachelor man obsessed with single moms and thots, he found my stepmom, had two beautiful children, bought a brand-new house on the lake, and is planning to retire comfortably and focus on writing books. The RP is just like fascism...There is no happy ending, and it is fueled by constant paranoia and chaos.



You could be right, but I do realize that I am at the point of my life where I might have to bite the bullet. I have had sex with around 53 women in my life and been in 6 relationships. At some point you start to realize that sex is sex and how much of a waste of time and energy pointless & toxic relationships are.



You are right I cannot fake a marriage and it is a long-term game with many potential things that can ruin it. Right now, I am 99% going to stall the relationship another year and gauge my comfortability from there.

Yes ,but a RP man is at least fully aware of the road ahead of him. Yiu seem oblivious to what will happen next. Or I should say, you are actually aware that there's a realistic possibility the relationship will change for the worse.

The BIG disadvantage of speding time on e.g a rp forum. Because your bluepilled friends " are unaware of the dangers " so they are less scared for the outcome.

Your uncle by the way ( AGAIN) comes from a different era. A man like that would simply be an incel nowadays, or a beta provider. Sound like he would happily resign to the latter. "I know of this one guy in Ghana whose happily married". Oke. What about your 6/10 single friends?

Relationships dont have the happy ending we ALL sought after bro. The only difference is that a RPiller knows this, while a bluepilled man is unaware of the dynamics between men and women.

I feel your struggle as you need to be unaware and naive to make this work rather than "gamed up and well read into RP knowledge ". Because IF it fails, you'll hear a million voices in your head go" TOLD YA"!!!

You still never answered why you just cant say" look I love you BUT u rather take some more time before we do that,aight?".

What's up with that??

 

[CornbreadFed]

Yes ,but a RP man is at least fully aware of the road ahead of him. Yiu seem oblivious to what will happen next. Or I should say, you are actually aware that there's a realistic possibility the relationship will change for the worse.

Just because they are fully aware doesn't mean they don't make the right decisions. People are aware that driving recklessly can end up seriously harming themselves or others, but they still drive recklessly.

The BIG disadvantage of speding time on e.g a rp forum. Because your bluepilled friends " are unaware of the dangers " so they are less scared for the outcome.

They are aware of the dangers, they just don't obsess about it like the RP does. With Youtube, Reels, and Tik Tok, everybody has been exposed to some red pill content at some point. All of my friends know who Andrew Tate is. I post on a more boomer/Gen x dominated blue pilled site and they even know who Andrew Tate is. The Red Pill is not underground anymore.

Your uncle by the way ( AGAIN) comes from a different era. A man like that would simply be an incel nowadays, or a beta provider. Sound like he would happily resign to the latter. "I know of this one guy in Ghana whose happily married". Oke. What about your 6/10 single friends?

My dad is in his 50s. Similar age to Rollo and people on this site. I have been an incel before and that was when I was super hard on the red pill. Tbh, I only care about what I am doing and what other successful people are doing.

Relationships dont have the happy ending we ALL sought after bro. The only difference is that a RPiller knows this, while a bluepilled man is unaware of the dynamics between men and women.

The Red Piller just assumes anything regarding a female will always have a negative outcome and chooses to remain bitter and mad his whole life. I would rather take risks and potentially learn from them than sit and cry constantly.

I feel your struggle as you need to be unaware and naive to make this work rather than "gamed up and well read into RP knowledge ". Because IF it fails, you'll hear a million voices in your head go" TOLD YA"!!!

Why root for someone else's failure? The RP needs negativity and anger to sustain itself. A girl wanting to progress the relationship should be seen as a good thing, not some check mate you are "fvcked brah" situation. Like I said before, my dad has been divorced twice, so I understand the risks.

You still never answered why you just cant say" look I love you BUT u rather take some more time before we do that,aight?".

I did lol. Who said I didn't?

 

[pipeman84]

Look at how many exes she has and the average length of her past relationships. That's most probably how long the marriage will last, after that it's straight into divorce or dead bedroom.

If you allow her to wear a white wedding dress, if she wasn't a virgin when she met you, then you're entering the marriage with a broken frame. In other words, she's very publicly presenting an image (purity) which is opposite of reality and you're willing to go along with this farce.

 

[Gamisch]

"Just because they are fully aware doesn't mean they don't make the right decisions. People are aware that driving recklessly can end up seriously harming themselves or others, but they still drive recklessly.

I dont get this metaphor.

They are aware of the dangers, they just don't obsess about it like the RP does. With Youtube, Reels, and Tik Tok, everybody has been exposed to some red pill content at some point. All of my friends know who Andrew Tate is. I post on a more boomer/Gen x dominated blue pilled site and they even know who Andrew Tate is. The Red Pill is not underground anymore.



My dad is in his 50s. Similar age to Rollo and people on this site. I have been an incel before and that was when I was super hard on the red pill. Tbh, I only care about what I am doing and what other successful people are doing."

Perhaps that's the issue. You say we as red pillars are all those things , yet most of us never been an incel. Yet ,or perhaps because of that, we've been around women for years and years and we HAVE to testify that the manosphere is" on to something ".

Cool, I suppose you seek for advice from married men who got pressured in to a "successful " marriage?

"The Red Piller just assumes anything regarding a female will always have a negative outcome and chooses to remain bitter and mad his whole life. I would rather take risks and potentially learn from them than sit and cry constantly."

Realistic outcome is the word you are looking for. A RPiller will tell you like:" hey, go ahead and have your fun. Just REMEMBER, the shelf life is deteriorating by the second. When it all falls down be ready to catch whatever your two hands can catch."

Because you WILL be crying when it all falls apart. Just facts of LIFE.

"Why root for someone else's failure? The RP needs negativity and anger to sustain itself. A girl wanting to progress the relationship should be seen as a good thing, not some check mate you are "fvcked brah" situation. Like I said before, my dad has been divorced twice, so I understand the risks."


Nah bro. I wont root for your failure. Why? I'd rather have YOU telling ME how to successfully maintain a relationship and even nurture it so it becomes a successful marriage. You are rooting against ME actually, by shyting on the RP. I am here to grow, and NOTHING else.


"I did lol. Who said I didn't?"

My girl does this too. Instead of referring to the apparently already said qoute you're running in circles. I might've missed it. Excuse moi. What was your answer? Again: Why you can't simply say" not right now ". Why make a thread about it? We all know a thread = anxiety from the op times 100 as he is in the midst of a storm.

 

[CornbreadFed]

@Gamisch I do not want to go back and forth on the subject, but I was a strong believer in the red pill and I lost faith in it after dealing with women on an emotional level and disagreement of the trajectory of the ideology.