Help, my gf is starting to bring up marriage

[CornbreadFed]

Enough arguments to not get married. What arguments does she have to get married?

WEDDING

 

[corrector]

WEDDING

So if you elope then she's not intereted in marrying you?

 

[SW15]

WEDDING

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[AmsterdamAssassin]

WEDDING

Oh, that is so easy. Write your own wedding vows. I didi.

 

[Macadellic]

She wants to get married and you don’t, say no.
No means no, respect my boundaries.

Women say no to men for the following:
What’s your name
Can I buy you a drink
Want to see the sunset from my balcony

And women do not feel bad when saying no

I do not feel bad when saying no to women

This is your life OP have a backbone.

Lastly,
What makes women gain the most weight?
it’s wedding cake

 

[Gamisch]

Lets be real

Firstly I'm kinda surprised to learn you are in a steady relationship. You have to admit you are one of the most vocal people who're anti RP.

Does that mean you're approaching relationships with a rather "bluepilled aka normal people " type of vibe? Sounds like you are stuck now ,and when you give her a firm " no" , it wont add up with the entire build up of the relationship so far and you be acting out of character.

I mean,she should already KNOW your pov about marriage, right??

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Mine too. Her birthday is coming up and she wants to go to Vegas. She's already implied that we should tie the knot in Vegas.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

My marriage only lasted for 2- 3 months. The divorce process was free as I qualified for a court fee-waiver. The money I "invested" for the event was absorbed in a subsequent bankruptcy. In the end there was no financial scam like you are potraying it to be. We all invent things in our mind that is always way worst compared to how it actually plays out.

Mine lasted 10 years. She didn't contest. It was pretty smooth. I was very kind, even though I could have divorce Rxped her, as she refused to counterfile. Good thing. About a year later, she became an FWB. I can go on about the bad things about her. But she is a literal fvcking machine.

 

[CornbreadFed]

Hes a troll. Period. He **** posts all the fcking time. Why this has not been picked up by the mods on is not my gig. But come on.
Long azz posts crapping on the RP space and now needs help to avoid marriage? LOL give a god me dam break ppl

Boohoo

 

[CornbreadFed]

Lets be real

Firstly I'm kinda surprised to learn you are in a steady relationship. You have to admit you are one of the most vocal people who're anti RP.

Does that mean you're approaching relationships with a rather "bluepilled aka normal people " type of vibe? Sounds like you are stuck now ,and when you give her a firm " no" , it wont add up with the entire build up of the relationship so far and you be acting out of character.

I mean,she should already KNOW your pov about marriage, right??

I am purple pilled and I will proudly admit so. I think 99% of red pillers are just insecure purple pillers hiding behind an ideology.

 

[corrector]

Mine lasted 10 years. She didn't contest. It was pretty smooth. I was very kind, even though I could have divorce Rxped her, as she refused to counterfile. Good thing. About a year later, she became an FWB. I can go on about the bad things about her. But she is a literal fvcking machine.

You are fortunate to get decent outcomes with women, even when things go south. In my case, I'm left with nothing, not even social....and the marriage, and overall experience with my ex-wife was dreadfully too short and too long ago to mean anything.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

You are fortunate to get decent outcomes with women, even when things go south. In my case, I'm left with nothing, not even social....and the marriage, and overall experience with my ex-wife was dreadfully too short and too long ago to mean anything.

My ex-wife told me 'You are a such a nice person'. One of my GF's said "I've never seen you mad." So. I suppose that helps. That. And one other thing.

 

[corrector]

My ex-wife told me 'You are a such a nice person'. One of my GF's said "I've never seen you mad." So. I suppose that helps. That. And one other thing.

It may be, but you also have allot more exposure to women in general, and obviously there are some that you mesh with better than others.
For example, I never got mad with my ex-gf, but my ex-wife seemed to just bring out the worst in me. Perhaps you also had better life circumstances (ie a job, access to money to live together with your ex-wife, etc....). You probably also have the sense that if something doesn't work out, you are not doomed for life as an incel while your ex happily moves on and forgets about you.....but can easily move on to another lady as you get lots of high-quality IOIs and aggressive approaches all the time.

Honestly, I sort of identify more with your incel friends and feel like I just got a one-off fluke here or there in the past (one of which happened to also include a wedding and marriage) so it's not a total incel-dissaster story, and I still learned enough from those experiences because they made such a deep impression which is why I'm rather vocal. But I can't replicate that, or find another women and the past goes more into oblivion with each passing moment.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

It may be, but you also have allot more exposure to women in general, and obviously there are some that you mesh with better than others.
For example, I never got mad with my ex-gf, but my ex-wife seemed to just bring out the worst in me. Perhaps you also had better life circumstances (ie a job, access to money to live together with your ex-wife, etc....). You probably also have the sense that if something doesn't work out, you are not doomed for life as an incel while your ex happily moves on and forgets about you.....but can easily move on to another lady as you get lots of high-quality IOIs and aggressive approaches all the time.

Honestly, I sort of identify more with your incel friends and feel like I just got a one-off fluke here or there in the past (one of which happened to also include a wedding and marriage) so it's not a total incel-dissaster story, and I still learned enough from those experiences because they made such a deep impression which is why I'm rather vocal. But I can't replicate that, or find another women and the past goes more into oblivion with each passing moment.

I think the common wisdom is; 'if you can get a woman once. Eventually you can get another.' Some of my incel friends are really incels. In that, even though they are middle aged, they never had a woman once want them. And have never been in a non-$ sexual situation with a woman.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

It may be, but you also have allot more exposure to women in general, and obviously there are some that you mesh with better than others.
For example, I never got mad with my ex-gf, but my ex-wife seemed to just bring out the worst in me. Perhaps you also had better life circumstances (ie a job, access to money to live together with your ex-wife, etc....). You probably also have the sense that if something doesn't work out, you are not doomed for life as an incel while your ex happily moves on and forgets about you.....but can easily move on to another lady as you get lots of high-quality IOIs and aggressive approaches all the time.

After 10 years. And letting myself get pudgy and sloppy towards the end, she said she couldn't do it with me as she found me unattractive. So. I divorced her. Now me, being a short, middle aged, pudgy slob. Definitly a potential incel at that point. I knew I was going to be in a world of hurt. Fortunetly, I was mad motivated and got my groove back in about 3 months. Being without a woman, perhaps for the first time in decades, made me semi-insane. I think I could have stormed the beaches of Normandy. It cost time, money and hard work., It was as if I were possessed. I had a good base, so I was able to cut away all the garbage. It was a strange expericene. But ultimatly, It was a success. Also, Let me clarify. IOS and approaches on occasion. Not all the time.

 

[corrector]

I think the common wisdom is; 'if you can get a woman once. Eventually you can get another.' Some of my incel friends are really incels. In that, even though they are middle aged, they never had a woman once want them. And have never been in a non-$ sexual situation with a woman.

Eventually, lol!

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Eventually, lol!

I think it comes down to motivation. When I was younger and clubbing a lot. One of the guys at the club we all hung out at was an pudgey, bullet-headed unnatractive dude. But he did better than me, though I face mogged him hard. I asked a bouncer friend of mine. "How does Eddie always get girls:" My friend said: "Eddie tries." I;ve seen plain looking guys, pull , while I, being lazy, would end up with the walk of shame. Then, as last week showed, I can do almost nothing and blow out the dudes that tried. So. Nothing is gauranteed. But, trying is never wrong.

 

[corrector]

After 10 years. And letting myself get pudgy and sloppy towards the end, she said she couldn't do it with me as she found me unattractive. So. I divorced her. Now me, being a short, middle aged, pudgy slob. Definitly a potential incel at that point. I knew I was going to be in a world of hurt. Fortunetly, I was mad motivated and got my groove back in about 3 months. Being without a woman, perhaps for the first time in decades, made me semi-insane. I think I could have stormed the beaches of Normandy. It cost time, money and hard work., It was as if I were possessed. I had a good base, so I was able to cut away all the garbage. It was a strange expericene. But ultimatly, It was a success. Also, Let me clarify. IOS and approaches on occasion. Not all the time.

This is very important to know. You lost weight? Have you thought about doing that while you were married and seeing if your ex-wife, at that time, would have liked you enough to sex you?

How much did you weight before and after you lose the weight? You were able to lose this weight in 3 months? You saw a difference in IOIs when you lose your weight?

I never felt my personal issues were weight but finances and living situation, or at least the latter issues overshadow them.

Thanks for clarifying, you have decent experiences, but are not making yourself out to be a chad-tier and are saying that you have just presented your best-self physically, mentally and emotionally to the women you are dealing with, and have choosen reasonably compatable and attractive women to deal with to make the likihood of conflicts less likely to happen over nonsense. Also, you are clarifying that your incel friends are truecels (ie they never had a woman in the past), while I'm a technical fakecel (had a woman, a long long time ago in a galaxy far, far away) although I may be vibing like a trucel/or people on here are responding to me like a real trucel, etc..... Would that be accurate?

 

[Hamurabimbi]

This is very important to know. You lost weight? Have you thought about doing that while you were married and seeing if your ex-wife, at that time, would have liked you enough to sex you?

How much did you weight before and after you lose the weight? You were able to lose this weight in 3 months? You saw a difference in IOIs when you lose your weight?

I never felt my personal issues were weight but finances and living situation, or at least the latter issues overshadow them.

Thanks for clarifying, you have decent experiences, but are not making yourself out to be a chad-tier and are saying that you have just presented your best-self physically, mentally and emotionally to the women you are dealing with, and have choosen reasonably compatable and attractive women to deal with to make the likihood of conflicts less likely to happen over nonsense. Also, you are clarifying that your incel friends are truecels (ie they never had a woman in the past), while I'm a technical fakecel (had a woman, a long long time ago in a galaxy far, far away) although I may be vibing like a trucel/or people on here are responding to me like a real trucel, etc..... Would that be accurate?

I was Blue Pilled, Disney Princes fool. And partially it was her fault. She tried to keep me plump and away from the gym. I don't remember the numbers, but I think I went from 30% BF down to 18%. This gave me a chisled jawline and hollow cheeks and a lean face. Not to mention a decent body. Yeah. I started to process in Feb and by June I was getting hit on. I'm not a Chad. Too short. But, I've got a good face and decent body. I think the 'secret weapon' is that I look like a porn star and that gives certian women gina tingles. Maybe kind of a niche market. I definetly don't look like the All-American, tall, football playing, clean-cut, boyfriend material Chad. More like the side guy she bangs when her BF is out of town.
I lived with my Mom (I lost my apartment due to owner occupied move in), but it didnt effect girls coming over. I banged so many girls in my bed while my Mom was watching TV downstairs. And, I wasn't some young kid in his 20's.
There is a saying that Fatcels are Volcels.

 

[Learning Curve]

I want to continue the relationship, but I think marriage is a financial scam for both men and women. I refuse to waste 10k plus on a dumb event and let the government enter my bedroom. Not only that, but I am not sure if we both want kids and I find it completely more pointless if so.

Marriage is a financial scam. I actually told this to my EX when she was pushing me for marriage and kids.

The only one benefiting is the church and the venue hosting the event.

And that is if you make any money back or if you break-even from all the guests you will have. Here in Cyprus each guest has to come with 50 euros in his pocket to give to the couple at the wedding.

Not sure how it works in other countries.

Generally speaking. Your woman will not stop for marriage and kids. You will have this conversation every month.

Is about if you can handle it or if you had made your final decision. I'm not anti-marriage as i know couples that have success and they are happy but i also know couples that divorced after 3 months. If your woman is quality and you want to experience this once in a lifetime go for it.

If not make it clear, and move on.