Harsh Truth: You will never beat women in the dating game

[Pierce Manhammer]

I do not think it’s a local thing. It’s about what’s attractive, a fat chick is not attractive.

 

[nelysses]

Especially if you are hyper focused on sex. A 1/10 woman has more sexual options than a Chad without a doubt. Unfortunately, you will not dissuade me with your bullshvt because I have seen with my eyes plenty of fvcking times. If you are out here trying to impress people with your bachelor lifestyle then you aren't fooling anyone experienced. In reality, you will never beat an average woman and will always be in the loser seat. Men struggle or fatigue themselves because they essentially try to out woman a woman which is impossible. Like or not, Men have the more leverage when it comes to access to relationships/marriages and during the relationship/marriage itself. For example, if you are holding frame and doing your part, it would be completely futile for your partner to risk losing you unless she is mentally deranged which falls upon you for choosing her IMHO.

And for your nostalgiacels that love to bring up the pre-feminism era every other day! Were men out there tricking and trying to dvck down 304s with minimal effort? Absolutely not!!

I think this is one of the main problems.
They tell me to realize that there is a reward, they tell me to improve yourself. But at the end of the day, if we are not at 0.0001% (There are rich, famous and handsome actors there etc.) We have less chance than any woman (In my circle, they call me above average. My height is 187, generally like 6/10, but 3/10 Even a girl has more opportunities than me).
Also, as a man, I have to go and convince that girl.

The one who has less to lose in bargaining wins.

 

[MatureDJ]

Especially if you are hyper focused on sex. A 1/10 woman has more sexual options than a Chad without a doubt. Unfortunately, you will not dissuade me with your bullshvt because I have seen with my eyes plenty of fvcking times. If you are out here trying to impress people with your bachelor lifestyle then you aren't fooling anyone experienced. In reality, you will never beat an average woman and will always be in the loser seat. Men struggle or fatigue themselves because they essentially try to out woman a woman which is impossible. Like or not, Men have the more leverage when it comes to access to relationships/marriages and during the relationship/marriage itself. For example, if you are holding frame and doing your part, it would be completely futile for your partner to risk losing you unless she is mentally deranged which falls upon you for choosing her IMHO.

And for your nostalgiacels that love to bring up the pre-feminism era every other day! Were men out there tricking and trying to dvck down 304s with minimal effort? Absolutely not!!

Wow, this comment is almost as depressing as this scene:

 

[MatureDJ]

How is this working mathematically assuming the world's population is 50% male and 50% female?

A single baker with a row of ovens can bake a lot of loaves of bread.

 

[MatureDJ]

Are things really that bad in Nashville?

As @Solomon pointed out, a 1/10 woman is 400 lbs and wheelchair bound. You couldn't even have sex with her without using a forklift. I don't see men lining up for that.

 

[zekko]

What's your definition of a 1/10? To me it's a woman who is 400 pounds or a woman who is in a wheelchair. I would say most women fall in the 5 or 4 out of 10 range then yes those have more options than a Chad but a 1 out of 10? yikes you're reaching, there are some gargoyle-looking women (especially on these dating apps) that I think even if you were high and drunk out of your mind the average man wouldn't be able to smash lmfao

Makes you wonder also, what percentage of women are 1/10? Can't be very many.

 

[H8CourtshipWithAPassion]

i agree in which Tripp Advice says, men are in default scarcity, but women are in default abundance.

 

[Learning Curve]

Especially if you are hyper focused on sex. A 1/10 woman has more sexual options than a Chad without a doubt. Unfortunately, you will not dissuade me with your bullshvt because I have seen with my eyes plenty of fvcking times. If you are out here trying to impress people with your bachelor lifestyle then you aren't fooling anyone experienced. In reality, you will never beat an average woman and will always be in the loser seat. Men struggle or fatigue themselves because they essentially try to out woman a woman which is impossible. Like or not, Men have the more leverage when it comes to access to relationships/marriages and during the relationship/marriage itself. For example, if you are holding frame and doing your part, it would be completely futile for your partner to risk losing you unless she is mentally deranged which falls upon you for choosing her IMHO.

And for your nostalgiacels that love to bring up the pre-feminism era every other day! Were men out there tricking and trying to dvck down 304s with minimal effort? Absolutely not!!

Women after 35 are useless.

They have nothing to offer, besides s3x.

Men after 35 are at their core peak, and even when they reach 40.

Men have an advantage in age and options as they get older. Women do not have that.

You are talking about younger women i suppose then yes they have more options then the average chad.

Men hold the power above a certain age threshold, and even at younger age. Men do have options when they know what the f3uck they are doing and they are following a path for success.

A High Value Man that has abundance, money, and success does not care about any woman, or he does not get demolished if he gets rejected. Trust me.

Having abundance is having power.

 

[Millard Fillmore]

Maybe try living in abundance?

Most men are afraid of success. They'd rather rationalize than actualize.

IRT the main theme of this thread, that mid or low quality women have sexual abundance, that's not really a "win" for them.

 

[TB24]

A single baker with a row of ovens can bake a lot of loaves of bread.

This was a reply to my question: "How is this working mathematically assuming the world's population is 50% male and 50% female?"

And I still don't get it. I mean, in each s*x encounter, there is 1 male participant and 1 female participant. (For the sake of simplicity, I'm ignoring threesomes, orgies and LTBG people). Thus, the male population has *exactly* as much s*x as the female population. It can merely be a difference in distribution.

It's simply not possible that all females have more s*x than all males. Do you want to say that very few males get almost everything and the rest gets almost nothing?

 

[RangerMIke]

Women today are more focused on the physical appearance of men more than any time in our history. Women have a lot of options... it's always been that way... they are not motivated as much by the quality of life (resources, stability) as they are by how you look.

If a man isn't spending at least 3 days a week in the gym working out and controlling their weight their chances of getting past that 'attraction' is slim. Yeah, they want guys with resources and stability... but that is actually third behind looks and tangible things like commonality.

I know women that all they do is spend time on dating aps, finding 'hot' guys to have sex with... and if it develops into something the chick wants... then fine... otherwise... there are plenty of men on dating aps that spend all their time in the guy working out... everything else in their lives taking a back seat. Their 'purpose' is to work out... get laid... that is all.

More women today just live in the moment and they are not thinking of the future. They do not think of ramifications... and if they are hot to decent looking... she has no ramifications. There will always be another dude... that are a dating ap away.

 

[p_1337]

Women today are more focused on the physical appearance of men more than any time in our history. Women have a lot of options... it's always been that way... they are not motivated as much by the quality of life (resources, stability) as they are by how you look.

If a man isn't spending at least 3 days a week in the gym working out and controlling their weight their chances of getting past that 'attraction' is slim. Yeah, they want guys with resources and stability... but that is actually third behind looks and tangible things like commonality.

I know women that all they do is spend time on dating aps, finding 'hot' guys to have sex with... and if it develops into something the chick wants... then fine...

More women today just live in the moment and they are not thinking of the future. They do not think of ramifications... and if they are hot to decent looking... she has no ramifications. There will always be another dude...

Based on my extensive experiences over the last 10 years-- I have to wholeheartedly agree with this post.

With most girls (especially in the 18 - 25 age range) there appears to be zero urgency around fostering a serious relationship / getting married or having children... but these same picky broads are certainly active in the "dating" scene. When examining the ongoing prevalence of online "dating" apps and social media: it leads me to believe most desirable girls are only going after the absolute top crop of guys (men with some kind of celebrity status and/or those with exceptional looks-- i.e. 6'2"+ and/or jacked).

As a guy with extensive game experience-- along with being successful in my career, well-educated, having money, dressing well, and being considered good looking... it just isn't enough in the current dating landscape to foster any kind of abundance (especially with top shelf girls). I work out, but feel I fall short with a lot of (hot/young) girls due to not being a ripped gym bro. I really missed the boat on this in my younger years, along with not building any kind of social media presence.

 

[MatureDJ]

It's simply not possible that all females have more s*x than all males. Do you want to say that very few males get almost everything and the rest gets almost nothing?

That's what I am exactly saying!

 

[MatureDJ]

Makes you wonder also, what percentage of women are 1/10? Can't be very many.

Even these chicks have abundance:

 

[MatureDJ]

Even if a guy f*cks 20 women a year instead of a woman screwing 100 men, society values the former more. The guy did something that was tough to do. It is why being a slut will never be cool or high status, because d1ck is easy to get. At the same time, being a playboy will always be admired because above average p-ssy is hard to get for most men.

I don't know of one successful society that lauds non-committed sex (NOTE: polygyny where the father financially supports the mother can be lauded) - it is toxic to a society to have a lot of unsexxed men around, both for the rowdyness that results, and the fact that such men will not become beasts of burden.

 

[H8CourtshipWithAPassion]

well yeah, women naturally by default are in abundance, but men are naturally by default in scarcity, its easy to explain why though.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

If this were true. Women wouldn’t be hanging on to men they want.

 

[crowolf]

So what? Your focus should be on your mission, not on a relationship.

 

[BaronOfHair]

It behooves us all to not speak of beating women at(Or, for that matter, with)anything. We DO NOT currently inhabit a cultural climate where scenes such as these

Regularly appear in popular entertainment, much less play to audiences who are predisposed to thinking: "Ya know... Dude's actions were completely understandable, given the circumstances"

 

[SW15]

Men after 35 are at their core peak, and even when they reach 40.

Men have an advantage in age and options as they get older. Women do not have that.

It doesn't work like this for most 35-44 year old men. Most 35-44 year old men are pussie beggars for women.

Roosh explained this phenomenon well in the 2014 article below and this article is still applicable in 2024.

The Wall Is Softer Than We Think