Harsh Truth: You will never beat women in the dating game

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It doesn't work like this for most 35-44 year old men. Most 35-44 year old men are pussie beggars for women.

Roosh explained this phenomenon well in the 2014 article below and this article is still applicable in 2024.

Quote that article:

"We all want to believe that women will be punished for their bad decisions in life, because there’s no doubt that as men we are punished for ours. We want to think that women will be reprimanded for passing on good men in their prime to have sex with bad boys who don’t care about them"

A pre-Eastern Orthodox Roosh*, and most self-identifying Red Pillers, may spend THEIR waking hours daydreaming of women(Along with everyone else)they've labelled "bad" receiving divine retribution of some sort**. The rest of us plebs have far more modest ambitions though... Acquiring happy, fulfilling lives of our own, preferably with a companion who's dynamite both in and out of the boudoir



*One must wonder if Roosh still believes what he wrote in that essay


**If anyone still doubts that The Red Pill is filling a void once occupied by Christianity/In some cases, Islam, note just how similar that fantasy is to this passage, from Revelation

 

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I think the 1-10 ranking is misunderstood and misused by most.

It's simply mathematics: 5/10 is the median score—that means she's normal, HWP, not deformed, just the girl next door. Frankly, what most guys describe as 7's are actually 5's.

Why do people talk about 5s with such disdain? I write this because it would help to have a common definition when using shortshrift terms, otherwise we might as well be talking different languages.

Our opinions of whats attractive in women is subjective at best. I'd say it is possible that my 7 is your 5, a 2 (-2/+2 deviation) point range for individual tastes is probably fairly accurate.

The biggest problem most guys who aren't having success with women have is the women who they are attracted to, they shoot way too high and fail. Most guys overestimate their attractiveness scores as well. Add to that the fact most guys here say "no single mom's" "no one over 28" etc etc - these same guys are probably doing fat, single mom, 35 year olds but lying about it here.

Another normal day on the Internets...
One thing you might overlook is the fact that a 10 doesn't exist. Just like a 1 might not exist ( no one will try to hit on a 90 y.o fat woman whose bald ).

To me prime Megan Fox was hb9. Most men their biggest loves will be the girls in the hb7/hb8,5 range.

A hb5 means she is not even fitting for relationship material but still feckable. A hb6 means she has something that bothers but she is still acceptable, like small tits no huge azz, average face , little chubby and /or behavioral issues and perhaps age.

Hb4 and lower are the types you strictly wanna keep to yourself. No one should ever know you fecked her.
 

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This thread proves many things, specifically that the 1-10 rating system is used arbitrarily, specifically I believe it is a physical attractiveness score exclusively. A good attitude does not modulate a 1-10 rating in any way.
 

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This thread proves many things, specifically that the 1-10 rating system is used arbitrarily, specifically I believe it is a physical attractiveness score exclusively. A good attitude does not modulate a 1-10 rating in any way.
I use 0-3.
0= irrelevant
1= if she approached me, I would consider.
2= If she was in my vicinity, I’d approach
3=I’d go to where she was and approach.
 

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A 5 is your normal girl next door, its the median - according to your preferences. to me a 5 is a perfectly cute HWP girl. Anything 5 or higher assumes HWP and a lack of physical deformations...

If you adjust the model for todays obesity epidemic as opposed to using it as a straight attractiveness model, its different, given women are, for the most part fat nowadays in the US.
 

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You're just longing for the 'good old days' when you could still slap a woman around
And when securing a bountiful harvest for the year was simply a matter of giving our first born children to Baal as burnt offerings :p
 

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I take in to account makeup unlike most guys that just look at a face and body figure.
First, I refuse to give out a 10 because no girl is a true 10.

A 9 is an 8 that would better my life if I dated her or a really hot girl. If you don’t live in yhe urban area of top 10 Metropolitan…. NOT city limits then you are not seeing a 9, you are seeing a dolled up 7 or 8 period. Don’t be trolling me with your 9s in your East Jabib hick town of Kansas or suburb of New Jersey.

A 7.5-8.5 is what I would a normal attractive girl.

6-7- Still has some qualities to be dateable and what I would recommend LTRs with.

4s-5s- use to and dry spells or silent Tuesday night slams.
 

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What this thread really is trying to say is that women manage to keep a better looking partner relative to men in the same level of desperation.

Testosterone is why women receive interest from men that would otherwise be attracted to them, and why men can get as much partners as women if they’re willing to clear that low level necessary.

It’s not an imbalance in numbers.
 

If you want to talk, talk to your friends. If you want a girl to like you, listen to her, ask questions, and act like you are on the edge of your seat.

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It’s quite simple, if one dude is seeing 3-5 women simultaneously he is taking them out of the dating pool. If she’s getting d-downed a few times a week she really isn’t looking elsewhere, mostly because who has the time? The high-libido guy that’s seeing a handful of women is focused on sex, and makes time for it in his schedule, 98% of people do not do this.

Even so, the number of women is already low as compared to men on OLD, and one man is demanding the attention of 3 or more women on a regular basis he reduces the available pool of women.

Plenty of women have a reliable, easy, attractive and sexually powerful man she’s seeing and getting railed by, while being on apps looking for the next best thing. When her behaviors change that’s your queue that she’s talking to someone else who has her interest. At that point, if you’re not ready to let her go yet, you give her some new experience or a multi hour encounter with your prowess and they tend to fall right back in line.

Once they try this a few times over the course of you interaction with them, they stop doing it, doubling down on you.

Some of us have long term f-buddies. I have a gal I see that I’ve known for close to a decade, she still, is always available to me, although I’m sure she’s most likely vetting others on a semi-regular basis. And frankly I do not care, if she suddenly becomes less available I do too, it rectifies the situation in short order.

Be a good guy, be clean, be fit, be interesting and d her down EVERY TIME, with no exceptions even if you’re not 100% feeling it. This keeps them around, if that’s what you want.

And let’s not mince words, most men overestimate their prowess and their ability to give a chick amazing sex. Of course everyone on SS is a sex god so it’s not an issue for them.
 

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It’s quite simple, if one dude is seeing 3-5 women simultaneously he is taking them out of the dating pool. If she’s getting d-downed a few times a week she really isn’t looking elsewhere, mostly because who has the time? The high-libido guy that’s seeing a handful of women is focused on sex, and makes time for it in his schedule, 98% of people do not do this.

Even so, the number of women is already low as compared to men on OLD, and one man is demanding the attention of 3 or more women on a regular basis he reduces the available pool of women.

Plenty of women have a reliable, easy, attractive and sexually powerful man she’s seeing and getting railed by, while being on apps looking for the next best thing. When her behaviors change that’s your queue that she’s talking to someone else who has her interest. At that point, if you’re not ready to let her go yet, you give her some new experience or a multi hour encounter with your prowess and they tend to fall right back in line.

Once they try this a few times over the course of you interaction with them, they stop doing it, doubling down on you.

Some of us have long term f-buddies. I have a gal I see that I’ve known for close to a decade, she still, is always available to me, although I’m sure she’s most likely vetting others on a semi-regular basis. And frankly I do not care, if she suddenly becomes less available I do too, it rectifies the situation in short order.

Be a good guy, be clean, be fit, be interesting and d her down EVERY TIME, with no exceptions even if you’re not 100% feeling it. This keeps them around, if that’s what you want.

And let’s not mince words, most men overestimate their prowess and their ability to give a chick amazing sex. Of course everyone on SS is a sex god so it’s not an issue for them.
Take care when withdraw attention from women that have come to know you. It is like kicking a nest of bees. She will go nuts. She will know what you’re doing and she won’t stop coming at you about it. It can be highly counterproductive.
 

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Take care when withdraw attention from women that have come to know you. It is like kicking a nest of bees. She will go nuts
Not as violently as when she walks in on you and her daughter, celebrating DD's 18th birthday in bed together. ESPECIALLY if you've got "baby girl" on all fours, initiating this chick in anal, despite never having serviced Mummy with anything other than missionary

I still have a bullet lodged two inches from my spine, thanks to such a mishap
 

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It’s quite simple, if one dude is seeing 3-5 women simultaneously he is taking them out of the dating pool. If she’s getting d-downed a few times a week she really isn’t looking elsewhere, mostly because who has the time? The high-libido guy that’s seeing a handful of women is focused on sex, and makes time for it in his schedule, 98% of people do not do this.
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Another girl told me; ‘Screw who
you want. But I need you to get test before we do it. you might fvck slutty girls.’
One girl came over and I told her I had to go f/ck this other girl and I’d be back.

She told be to shower when I got back so I did then I f/cked her too
 

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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

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