Guys, Would you still ask this girl out/be exclusive with her?

[Asmodeus]

You're right sure they would all love f*ck me lol but what does that have to do with me? If you're an attractive person that just comes with the territory. I can't help that guys want to jump my bones but unless I have feelings for them I have no desire to sleep with them.

Admit it though...
You just love the attention.

Nothing wrong with that. You are a woman, a woman loves having a the attention of men.

 

[ritapita20]

Admit it though...
You just love the attention.

Nothing wrong with that. You are a woman, a woman loves having a the attention of men.

No I really don't. Most of them are annoying. The others are pervs. If it's not the attention of someone I'm interested in or find attractive it's just annoying. I just got a message from a man asking me to come spank him. Stuff like that creeps me out. Just because it's attention doesn't mean it's good attention.

 

[Asmodeus]

Here we go again. So I need to shut down other guys while I'm 100% single so that the right guy can come along

I say play the field... Meet people. Meet men and learn about them, just be very firm and clear with them about things when you are not interested. If the man still hovers aroud you when you say "not interested at all" then he is just a beta f@ggt chump. You cannot help it if a guy is a beta chump, and stupid white knight expectations that he can possibly get in your pants by being an orbiter.

You got to play the field so you can meet somebody suitable for you who has good compatibility with you. This is not always so easy.

However, a few things you should not do... Do not tell the guy you have a roster. It can easily be mistook as you being a slvt. I do not need to explain why as every other guy on this forum has already told you. Also, when you are actually exclusive with a guy you have to make it clear to the beta orbiters that you are focused on one man and even shut them out if need be.

 

[Desdinova]

So I need to shut down other guys while I'm 100% single so that the right guy can come along.

You're making excuses to keep your orbiters around. When you meet a guy you want to date, you'll feel that desire pretty much immediately. Because of this, there is absolutely NO logical explanation for you to keep orbiters. The only reason for you to keep orbiters is to boost your ego and make you feel attractive. They serve absolutely NO other purpose because you are NOT dating them, and you are NOT fvcking them.

You're 23 years old. Chances are the "right guy" has already come along, and you're no longer with him. Women have trouble finding a good mate after age 23 simply because some guy has already come along and has put his emotional imprint on her. I'm willing to bet that there's some guy in your past that you still think about A LOT. That was the "right guy". You're likely looking for someone who can do better than him. You won't find him.

Almost all the women I know who are in successful relationships found their ideal mate by age 23. The rest are forever dating and failing. In my opinion, you're 'damaged goods' as far as relationship material goes. You have too many orbiters, and you likely have an ex that you're still pining over. My gf has none of those. So don't feed me that bull5hit that you need lots of orbiters because you're 100% single. You'll immediately flush all those orbiters when Mr. Alpha comes along and makes your panties wet the first night you meet him.

If you want my genuine advice, you should seek out the ex that you're still pining over and try making it work with him. Otherwise, you will just continue to try and fill his shoes with men who will never be good enough.

 

[Asmodeus]

No I really don't. Most of them are annoying. The others are pervs. If it's not the attention of someone I'm interested in or find attractive it's just annoying. I just got a message from a man asking me to come spank him. Stuff like that creeps me out. Just because it's attention doesn't mean it's good attention.

You are lying to yourself, and me... This is very typical however.

You would rather you had that attention than not.
As for that guy who creeped you out, you can just block his number and tell him to fvck off. You can do this to every creep and get rid of these "pervs" but you do not... Why? Because you like the attention. It is literally biological, women love male attention. It fills your ego, it lets you know you are desired. Women want to be desired most of all...

Women say they hate it when they get cat called. But then when they grow older and do not look beautiful they complain about how they do not get male attention any more.

If you hated it then you should just get rid of all those perv orbiters... But I know you will not do that... Because deep down, subconsciously, you know I am right.

 

[Desdinova]

You would rather you had that attention than not.

...And that's the only reason why she's sticking around on this thread. She's getting male attention. The only difference is none of us have the desire to fvck her because we have other options.

 

[Asmodeus]

You're making excuses to keep your orbiters around. When you meet a guy you want to date, you'll feel that desire pretty much immediately. Because of this, there is absolutely NO logical explanation for you to keep orbiters. The only reason for you to keep orbiters is to boost your ego and make you feel attractive

This is absolutely a woman... I doubt a man would be able to fully emulate and understand these psychological subtleties here. Of course I guess I figured that with the first post in this topic.

...And that's the only reason why she's sticking around on this thread. She's getting male attention. The only difference is none of us have the desire to fvck her because we have other options.

That is likely one of her motivations, and I assumed the same. Though I find it useful to have here, as it allows us to truly dissect the psychology and mentality of a young woman (I know we have LYD and BeExcellent but those are middle aged women and one is married so they do not have the same mentality as a younger woman like this would have, more mature women tend have a different mindset).

We talk about theories, but here we have an example...

 

[ritapita20]

You're making excuses to keep your orbiters around. When you meet a guy you want to date, you'll feel that desire pretty much immediately. Because of this, there is absolutely NO logical explanation for you to keep orbiters. The only reason for you to keep orbiters is to boost your ego and make you feel attractive. They serve absolutely NO other purpose because you are NOT dating them, and you are NOT fvcking them.

You're 23 years old. Chances are the "right guy" has already come along, and you're no longer with him. Women have trouble finding a good mate after age 23 simply because some guy has already come along and has put his emotional imprint on her. I'm willing to bet that there's some guy in your past that you still think about A LOT. That was the "right guy". You're likely looking for someone who can do better than him. You won't find him.

Almost all the women I know who are in successful relationships found their ideal mate by age 23. The rest are forever dating and failing. In my opinion, you're 'damaged goods' as far as relationship material goes. You have too many orbiters, and you likely have an ex that you're still pining over. My gf has none of those. So don't feed me that bull5hit that you need lots of orbiters because you're 100% single. You'll immediately flush all those orbiters when Mr. Alpha comes along and makes your panties wet the first night you meet him.

If you want my genuine advice, you should seek out the ex that you're still pining over and try making it work with him. Otherwise, you will just continue to try and fill his shoes with men who will never be good enough.

All of that is hyperbole. Even Asmodeus said to play the field. That's what I've been doing. As he said that's the only to see what you and don't like. Until you've become exclusive that's what you're supposed to do.

As far as being damaged goods again your paleolithic knuckle dragging sized brain is showing again. I was in a relationship from 16 until I turned 23, he cheated and that was it for me. There's no pining. There's no ex I'm still hung up on. There's no mr. Right that's come along and I've missed out. Being 23 and single doesn't mean it's over for a woman to still find someone. See, if you actually knew what you were talking about then you would know people are getting married much later in life because they want to become established in their careers.

Please try again.

 

[ritapita20]

You are lying to yourself, and me... This is very typical however.

You would rather you had that attention than not.
As for that guy who creeped you out, you can just block his number and tell him to fvck off. You can do this to every creep and get rid of these "pervs" but you do not... Why? Because you like the attention. It is literally biological, women love male attention. It fills your ego, it lets you know you are desired. Women want to be desired most of all...

Women say they hate it when they get cat called. But then when they grow older and do not look beautiful they complain about how they do not get male attention any more.

If you hated it then you should just get rid of all those perv orbiters... But I know you will not do that... Because deep down, subconsciously, you know I am right.

Who said I hadn't blocked the pervs? Not everyone likes that kind of attention. It's really not that hard to understand.

 

[ritapita20]

This is absolutely a woman... I doubt a man would be able to fully emulate and understand these psychological subtleties here. Of course I guess I figured that with the first post in this topic.



That is likely one of her motivations, and I assumed the same. Though I find it useful to have here, as it allows us to truly dissect the psychology and mentality of a young woman (I know we have LYD and BeExcellent but those are middle aged women and one is married so they do not have the same mentality as a younger woman like this would have, more mature women tend have a different mindset).

We talk about theories, but here we have an example...

• I'm sticking around because you all have some crazy sexist theories. Especially telling a woman how women think. I'm literally breaking down how certain women think and you're telling me, "nope, not how it works". What you're telling me is you all perceive a women's mind works but in this particular instance you're wrong. I can't sit here and tell you how a man's mind works, all I can do is inquire. This has nothing to do with attention. All to do with educating.

 

[Asmodeus]

All of that is hyperbole. Even Asmodeus said to play the field. That's what I've been doing. As he said that's the only to see what you and don't like. Until you've become exclusive that's what you're supposed to do.

As far as being damaged goods again your paleolithic knuckle dragging sized brain is showing again. I was in a relationship from 16 until I turned 23, he cheated and that was it for me. There's no pining. There's no ex I'm still hung up on. There's no mr. Right that's come along and I've missed out. Being 23 and single doesn't mean it's over for a woman to still find someone. See, if you actually knew what you were talking about then you would know people are getting married much later in life because they want to become established in their careers.

Please try again.

Most people are getting married later in life. In fact I find that marrying too young is typically disastrous because of a lack of maturity. People in their teens and early 20s do not even have a fully developed sense of self yet and they often lack maturity. A little later and often some people may develop more maturity. However, do watch out because as you will find the dating pool begin to start drying out in your late 20s. In your 30s you as a woman will not have nearly as many oppritunities as now. If you wait too long then you may kneecap yourself a bit, this is just honesty and you already know this. You sexual market value will begin to plummet in your late 20s and onward and you will literally notice yourself becoming less and less desirable with each year. Men in their 30s see their oppritunities increase however... I could explain sexual market value to you if you would wish, it would help this all make sense.

What I mean to say, is that you should play the field now while you are young and while the dating market is still favorable. Meet men, find good matches and compatibility and while you still have the advantage (looks and youth).

 

[Asmodeus]

• I'm sticking around because you all have some crazy sexist theories. Especially telling a woman how women think. I'm literally breaking down how certain women think and you're telling me, "nope, not how it works". What you're telling me is you all perceive a women's mind but in this particular instance you're wrong. Nothing to do with attention. All to do with educating.

Oh come now... Where is your spirit of scientific inquiry?

I am not going to apologize. Most of what people think is not conscious, but subconscious. Psychology is literally based around this assumption. I know many men who believe and think things that are not actually truly aligned with their real motives.

Yes, of course it is objectifying... I understand that you may feel it violates you and such... However, on the flipside women like male attention, as it is an appreciation of their attractiveness. It is as simple as that. If you did not get male attention you would think that you were ugly and dumpy. You are only looking at this from your own narrow perspective of being fed constant ego gratification. If you were not in this situation you would feel very differently. I like to study behavior, motivation, and emotion. I can cite actual studies on this kind of phenomenon. Perhaps you consider ourself an exception to the rule, but the rule still stands. Desire is one of the strongest subconscious motivators for women.

Sexism? No... I simply seek to understand things. The human mind is like a machine, it works in ways that can be understood. Our brain is the source of our emotions and behaviors. Our brain is influenced by biological, environmental, and developmental factors (genetics, XX/XY, upbringing, ect). Deduce the motivations and you can understand quite a lot about human behavior.

I rather enjoy having you here, please stick around.

 

[Desdinova]

Even Asmodeus said to play the field.

...and thats what you've been doing. The more you play the field, the more jaded you'll become, and the more unlikely you'll be able to find yourself in a successful relationship.

As far as being damaged goods again your paleolithic knuckle dragging sized brain is showing again. I was in a relationship from 16 until I turned 23

That's a 7 year relationship, and a long-ass time to be with someone. There's a reason (or many reasons) you stayed with him for that long. If he didn't cheat on you, you'd likely still be with him.

he cheated and that was it for me

I'd like to hear his side of the story and find out why he cheated on you. Were you not feminine enough? Did you quit giving him sex? Did you make him buy you lots of 5hit? Did you flirt with other guys around him? The other side of the story isn't there for us to hear, so I'm not going to give you the benefit of the doubt that it was all his fault. When I have a woman that I find extremely valuable, she has 100% of my attention and I don't feel any desire to fvck up a good thing. I don't want to risk it.

Why did he want to risk it? What part of being a companion were you failing at?

See, if you actually knew what you were talking about then you would know people are getting married much later in life because they want to become established in their careers.

http://www.apa.org/topics/divorce/

However, about 40 to 50 percent of married couples in the United States divorce.

This is a real number. What do you think the cause is?

Let's look at this fvcking chart:

Hmmm... divorce rate is going up while the marriage rate is going down.

Let's look at the title of this article:

https://tavaana.org/en/content/1960s-70s-american-feminist-movement-breaking-down-barriers-women

The feminist movement excelled in the 60s and 70s. No more barefoot in the kitchen! No more women depending on men! No more women keeping the company of just women. How have men changed over the past 60 years? I honestly don't think they have changed all that much. They're still trying to prove to women how chivalrous they are.

But I have no clue what I'm talking about, right?

Show me how marriages have become more successful from women keeping orbiters and marrying older. Guess what? You can't because that data doesn't exist. The data I've given you proves the opposite.

I'm sticking around because you all have some crazy sexist theories.

We have those sexist theories because the numbers don't lie. When things were more "sexist" 60 years ago, marriage was more successful. Perhaps there's a reason for that. Perhaps those "sexist" theories actually made marriages work better.

Especially telling a woman how women think. I'm literally breaking down how certain women think and you're telling me, "nope, not how it works". What you're telling me is you all perceive a women's mind works but in this particular instance you're wrong.

There are very good breakdowns on this site and others about how a woman's mind works. The answer is: it doesn't really. It asks the boss what to do. If a man isn't present to answer, a woman will get her answer from her emotions. Sometimes her emotions say nothing. That's why you have trouble ordering from a menu at a restaurant, or even choosing which restaurant to eat at.

Ask a man where he wants to eat, and he'll choose quickly. Ask him what he wants off a menu, and he'll choose quickly. He doesn't answer to nobody. He can figure his own 5hit out, and do it quickly. That's why women respect and want men who can take the lead.

Tell me I'm wrong.

 

[ritapita20]

...and thats what you've been doing. The more you play the field, the more jaded you'll become, and the more unlikely you'll be able to find yourself in a successful relationship.



That's a 7 year relationship, and a long-ass time to be with someone. There's a reason (or many reasons) you stayed with him for that long. If he didn't cheat on you, you'd likely still be with him.



I'd like to hear his side of the story and find out why he cheated on you. Were you not feminine enough? Did you quit giving him sex? Did you make him buy you lots of 5hit? Did you flirt with other guys around him? The other side of the story isn't there for us to hear, so I'm not going to give you the benefit of the doubt that it was all his fault. When I have a woman that I find extremely valuable, she has 100% of my attention and I don't feel any desire to fvck up a good thing. I don't want to risk it.

Why did he want to risk it? What part of being a companion were you failing at?



http://www.apa.org/topics/divorce/

However, about 40 to 50 percent of married couples in the United States divorce.

This is a real number. What do you think the cause is?

Let's look at this fvcking chart:

Hmmm... divorce rate is going up while the marriage rate is going down.

Let's look at the title of this article:

https://tavaana.org/en/content/1960s-70s-american-feminist-movement-breaking-down-barriers-women

The feminist movement excelled in the 60s and 70s. No more barefoot in the kitchen! No more women depending on men! No more women keeping the company of just women. How have men changed over the past 60 years? I honestly don't think they have changed all that much. They're still trying to prove to women how chivalrous they are.

But I have no clue what I'm talking about, right?

Show me how marriages have become more successful from women keeping orbiters and marrying older. Guess what? You can't because that data doesn't exist. The data I've given you proves the opposite.



We have those sexist theories because the numbers don't lie. When things were more "sexist" 60 years ago, marriage was more successful. Perhaps there's a reason for that. Perhaps those "sexist" theories actually made marriages work better.



There are very good breakdowns on this site and others about how a woman's mind works. The answer is: it doesn't really. It asks the boss what to do. If a man isn't present to answer, a woman will get her answer from her emotions. Sometimes her emotions say nothing. That's why you have trouble ordering from a menu at a restaurant, or even choosing which restaurant to eat at.

Ask a man where he wants to eat, and he'll choose quickly. Ask him what he wants off a menu, and he'll choose quickly. He doesn't answer to nobody. He can figure his own 5hit out, and do it quickly. That's why women respect and want men who can take the lead.

Tell me I'm wrong.

More marriages "worked" back then because women were completely dependent on the men. They felt like they had no other option but to stay. Plus, it was extremely taboo to get divorced then.

The fact that you're assuming its something that I did or didn't do that made him cheat is the sexiest BS I'm talking about. I can debate with you all day but there's no point. Your thinking is too primitive.

 

[Desdinova]

The fact that you're assuming its something that I did or didn't do that made him cheat is the sexiest BS I'm talking about.

Well, what were the reasons you gave him to remain faithful? You can at least defend yourself if you have the reasons to do so.

 

[ritapita20]

Well, what were the reasons you gave him to remain faithful? You can at least defend yourself if you have the reasons to do so.

Every reason. We went ring shopping actually. We graduated from college, I was excelling and he was flailing. Next thing I knew I found him cheating. Short version of course. No one is perfect in a relationship but I was a very good girlfriend so I know with 100% certainty him cheating wasn't because of me. Actually just got this message from him 2 months ago. Even told my mother he still plans on marrying me. So no Desdinova, no wh0re over here. No 55 bodies, or even close to that number. Just trying to date and enjoy myself after being so young and in a serious relationship for so long that ultimately didn't work.

 

[Asmodeus]

Every reason. We went ring shopping actually. We graduated from college, I was excelling and he was flailing. Next thing I knew I found him cheating. Short version of course. No one is perfect in a relationship but I was a very good girlfriend so I know with 100% certainty him cheating wasn't because of me. Actually just got this message from him 2 months ago. Even told my mother he still plans on marrying me. So no Desdinova, no wh0re over here. No 55 bodies, or even close to that number. Just trying to date and enjoy myself after being so young and in a serious relationship for so long that ultimately didn't work.

So you only broke it up with him a couple months ago then... The text says 5/21/2106

 

[ritapita20]

So you only broke it up with him a couple months ago then... The text says 5/21/2106

No we broke up in 2015. He's was trying to get back in my good graces then.

 

[Desdinova]

Every reason. We went ring shopping actually. We graduated from college, I was excelling and he was flailing.

I haven't seen any reasons here, other than you saying you were a good girlfriend. A ring has nothing to do with a successful relationship. Neither does graduating from college. These are things you can do without being in a relationship.

What was it that made you better than every other woman out there? What was it that you could do for him that no other woman could?

 

[Asmodeus]

No we broke up in 2015. He's was trying to get back in my good graces then.

You should certainly go no-contact with him if you are not already and if you have no intents on getting back with him. Would be better if you blocked his number and exiled him from your existence in order to give him and yourself a better opportunity to heal. He obviously needs that, so that he can refocus himself, and you will not be able too convince me that you are perfectly find after such a long relationship and with intents on marriage with him (in fact such revelations have given me a few new assessments about you and all your postings). We have a thread for that here, the NoContact challenge.