Guys, I'm about to crack right now.

[ThunderMaverick]

TM, the best thing you can do right now, is focus on exploring those areas where you feel a little 'immature'.
Focus on those places where youhave negative/self limiting beliefs.

That's the stuff that is holding you back.

That 'gunk' that lies deep in the subconscious.

GOD! THANK YOU!! You actually get it.

But remember, not having a lot of money is not a moral failing.
It is not a lack of virtue.

But money is a tool. It helps create more opportunities.

Right again! I was going along those lines in the points I was trying to make a couple of replies ago. Money isn't everything, but it can be a strain on ANY relationship with ANYBODY if you don't have much or NONE.

And we as mature men, have to recognize that if we dont have that area well covered, I mean we are really paying attention to it, finding reosurces, opportunities, budgeting, spending wisely, investing and saving, and being shrewd in spending habits, we put a HUGE strain on a relationship with a woman.

Yes yes again! I don't know why some people here are underestimating the power of having even a LITTLE bit of money.

I know that a mature healthy woman will still love her man even if he doesnt have a bright financial picture.

Of course. Yes she fell in love with me when I drove a 92 toyota carolla and was a security guard working in the same galleria as her. She knew I didn't have much. I didn't have sh!t and we were together for that long? That's not a bad run for a near homeless bartender.

But it can definitely limit the experiences and sense of assurednes that we like to have.

We BOTH started to also stress about money towards the end of the relationship. I was still scraping by and she was getting laid off from her job. There's more to it, but money was definitely a factor.

Having money does not help 'game'. It does not give you extra special psychokinetic super powers to be a Master DJ, the artiste of Seduction....

Exactly. Money wasn't the reason we got together. We had a true chemical connection to each other.

Having a lot of money means you have to be even MORE discerning and truly skilled at qualifying the potential women.
But like I said, money does not inject you with "game" and raw sexual charm and charisma, or masculinity.

SO keep things in proper perspective.

Of course, but it's a very important ingredient to any healthy mature relationship.

Again, Im not saying DONT try to reconnect, BUT...
she did display some doubtful behavior. And I truly hope youre not justifying her behavior or rationalzing it for her.

Of course. Which I why, AGAIN, I'm saying I'm not speaking to her.

You are not responsible for her perceptions of you or her behavior. This is imperative to understand and fully integrate into your overall Life Concept.
I think you should reamin open to the possibility, but be more focused on attracting a woman similar to her in the best light , with all the good qualities.

Yes, it's very possible that there might be a woman better for me out there. I'm not delusional to that idea. I hope that's the case.

You must stay focused on your SELF, your Self Cultivation ALWAYS.
With or without a woman in your life.
And you are always supposed to be working on your Mission.
Again, with or without a woman in your life.

QFG (gospel) And I am working on that as we speak. =D

Improvement means GROWTH.
So work on growing, by asking questons, and exploring.
It doesnt hurt to expereince and ask questions, even if you dont like the answers...
What hurts is staying too DEEP inside one's comfort zone. and having fear intimidate one into inaction.

Men grow up not wanting to deal with their emotions. And their past negative expereinces and trauma.
This perspective only hurts one , in the short term and long term, and hinders growth...and yes...maturity.


We need to relearn how to live.

The mature masculine man works on these concepts every day.

In every interaction.
And does the best he can to not cast a 'negative' light on everything.

It is all an experiment. And one step closer to growth and accomplishing our goals towards our ultimate mission in life.


Anyway, I applaud your efforts, TM. And your good intentions and honorable intentions overall.

We need to become the Best men we can be.
SO that we can attract those things in life we truly wish to have...people, places, and things.

It always makes sense to think in becoming the masculine counterpart to the femenine partner we envision in our lives.
If we want a high class, high character woman who is kind, living and affectionate, thoughtful of us, and caring...then we have to be the masculine counterpart to her.
We must have those traits in our own Being as well.

You cant expect to be a slob with no life, and no values or opinions, no goals , dreams, or ambition and want some supermodel high class executive who is sweet, and caring etc..
You just wont 'match'.
Those type of women dont even notice men like that.
They dont even appear on their 'radar'.

Im a big beliver of the Law of Attraction.
And I believe this applies to partnering as well.

In addition to asserting your Personal Boundary, your basci character level will be the main 'attractor' of women to you.
Especially If what you want is something deeper, meaningful and long term.
having a strong personal boundary helps one deal with potential heartbreak much more decisively.
You may feel some pain. but when you realize she's no good for you, you can assert yourself with much more conviction, and walk away when you need to.
You can emotionally divest, and keep your masculinity and resources from being abused and 'leaking' out. You wont feel like someone is dominating you or making your decisions for you. And you cn take a step baqck and be more logical about things..

Good luck and stay strong, man

I hope there is a day when I can realize that yes, she might not be good for me. There's always that possibility. I'm not against that idea at all. When I become better than who I was yesterday I hope I could look on my past mistakes and smile about them, because they made me into who I will be.

Your post are solid platinum, 'Ceptor.

Mac, why can't you be more like 'Ceptor?:crackup: :crackup:

 

[MacAvoy]

If you don't have anything else constructive to say, then follow the advice on your recent thread that you made.

One page you think my posts are accurate, then the moment you disagree with me, you want me out of the thread. I was TRYING to point out to you, the progress that you were making in the thread but then you went to the gutter. Its not my fault, you went to the gutter, I was trying to kick you out of the gutter because above your post was a great post by Interceptor

Your post are solid platinum, 'Ceptor.

Mac, why can't you be more like 'Ceptor?:crackup: :crackup:

Therein lies your problem my friend. Maybe YOU should be more like Ceptor and you'd be further ahead. Stop worrying about me and take care of yourself. This is your thread, we are trying to help you. I make plenty of threads myself, so feel free to help me in those threads.

 

[ThunderMaverick]

One page you think my posts are accurate, then the moment you disagree with me, you want me out of the thread. I was TRYING to point out to you, the progress that you were making in the thread but then you went to the gutter. Its not my fault, you went to the gutter, I was trying to kick you out of the gutter because above your post was a great post by Interceptor

You mentioned attention wh0ring and trolling. How do those words help anyone? If you call someone a b!tch, you're not helping them. You're calling them names to knock their character down. You're not stupid. You knew what you were doing.

If you don't, just for future reference, if you do decide to name call again, I won't be taking your replies seriously. I don't want that and neither do you. After all, you're here to help. Right?

Therein lies your problem my friend. Maybe YOU should be more like Ceptor and you'd be further ahead. Stop worrying about me and take care of yourself. This is your thread, we are trying to help you. I make plenty of threads myself, so feel free to help me in those threads.

Don't be jealous because I can take more helpful and important info from him than you. All joking aside, Mac, that last comment was a joke. Hence the laughing emoticons after my reply?

 

[iqqi]

One page you think my posts are accurate, then the moment you disagree with me, you want me out of the thread. I was TRYING to point out to you, the progress that you were making in the thread but then you went to the gutter. Its not my fault, you went to the gutter, I was trying to kick you out of the gutter because above your post was a great post by Interceptor



Therein lies your problem my friend. Maybe YOU should be more like Ceptor and you'd be further ahead. Stop worrying about me and take care of yourself. This is your thread, we are trying to help you. I make plenty of threads myself, so feel free to help me in those threads.

I agree!

TM- You went from making mama proud, to making me weep gently for your lost soul.

 

[ThunderMaverick]

I agree!

You went from making mama proud, to making me weep gently for your lost soul.

Sometimes I'm guilty of being selective in who I care about caring about me.

So sorry, I don't care about what you think, "mama".

 

[iqqi]

Sometimes I'm guilty of being selective in who I care about caring about me.

So sorry, I don't care about what you think, "mama".

Its cool. I am sure you are more worried about the "wifey" material chick.

I understand.

 

[ThunderMaverick]

Its cool. I am sure you are more worried about the "wifey" material chick.

I understand.

Of course. If you were both hanging off a cliff and I had to save only one of you I would definitely save her.

Sorry. You didn't make the cut this year.

 

[iqqi]

Of course. If you were both hanging off a cliff and I had to save one of you it would be her. Sorry. You didn't make the cut this year.

Well too bad for her next email confession target. And you, if you get back with her.

One good girl gone, one low down h0 saved. TM, the capt save a h0!

 

[ThunderMaverick]

Well too bad for her next email confession target. And you, if you get back with her.

One good girl gone, one low down h0 saved. TM, the capt save a h0!

Just dig and dig and dig, baby.

When are you coming back to California? You need a few good hard smacks on your flat little white ass, "Winona".

 

[iqqi]

I aint mad at cha.

"And I can't even trip, cause I'm just laughin at cha
You tryin hard to maintain, then go head
cause I ain't mad at cha"

That's right. I quote Pac.


EDIT: BTW, according to my friends, my booty is pretty phat at the moment. Thanks.

 

[ThunderMaverick]

I aint mad at cha.

"And I can't even trip, cause I'm just laughin at cha
You tryin hard to maintain, then go head
cause I ain't mad at cha"

That's right. I quote Pac.

A little white girl quoting 2pac. The irony.

A girl like you should be singing "grilfriend" by Avril Lavigne. You're obviously jealous that I don't have feelings for you like I do my ex.

Don't hate. It's okay. You can't compete with her. You'll find plenty of guys who will like you! You're spinnin' plates right now, but thinking about how you can't have me. I'm all that, I know.

 

[Interceptor]

I dont think TM wants to 'save' her.
But he stil needs to understand that it's not really the woman he wants, he wants certain aspects of the relationship.
If he focuses on those aspects, and not necessarily this particular woman, I think he will have gained a fresh perspective, and a more clear one.


Like I said, there's a lack of those aspects in your relationships right now. And you're missing them.
She demonstrated the things you liked about an LTR and some of the positvie things you like in a woman.


Make these things clearer in your mind.
And work on being that Man, being the maculine counterpart.


And find the comfort that the time and the actual Progress, and resources invested in yourself are precious and valueable

 

[iqqi]

<Puts TM in a headlock and gives him a noogie>

Yeah, I'm jealous of your lowdown ex, and all her virtuous glory. Everyone knows iq loves TM!

 

[ThunderMaverick]

EDIT: BTW, according to my friends, my booty is pretty phat at the moment. Thanks.

Oooh B.U. L. L.... [size=+3]BULLSHIT[/size]

 

[iqqi]

I dont think TM wants to 'save' her.

That comment was an immature jab at TM's immature jab.

I don't think he wants to save her either. Instead he is idolizing and pedestalizing a chick who has done him wrong, and another man wrong, and shown through her actions that she is lowdown period. He has ONEitis for someone, which is most likely due to issues deeper than the chick herself.

I think he needs to save himself!

I dedicate Save Yourself by Sensefield to TM right now.

 

[ThunderMaverick]

I don't think he wants to save her either. Instead he is idolizing and pedestalizing a chick who has done him wrong, and another man wrong, and shown through her actions that she is lowdown period. He has ONEitis for someone, which is most likely due to issues deeper than the chick herself.

I truly miss her, not just certain aspects of the relationship. A lot of those qualities that she had I will look for in other women though. I miss her as a person, not just out of convenience. I was with other women (a lot) and I still missed her. I can't just...MISS a person?

I mean there's a girl right now (no, not you, Icky!) and if you met and saw how she treats me, you would think she's more willing to give me more than what my ex gave me. However, I don't feel a real connection. I don't feel a mutual amount of attraction. No doubt, we're going to have a f*ck-ton of fun, but I know what a great connection is. I've experienced it. It's going to be hard to find it again. It doesn't come around often.

Sorry, it doesn't.

 

[iqqi]

I truly miss her, not just certain aspects of the relationship. A lot of those qualities that she had I will look for in other women though. I miss her as a person, not just out of convenience. I was with other women (a lot) and I still missed her. I can't just...MISS a person?

I mean there's a girl right now (no, not you, Icky!) and if you met and saw how she treats me, you would think she's more willing to give me more than what my ex gave me. However, I don't feel a real connection. I don't feel a mutual amount of attraction. No doubt, we're going to have a f*ck-ton of fun, but I know what a great connection is. I've experienced it. It's going to be hard to find it again. It doesn't come around often.

Sorry, it doesn't.

Maybe you just like the drama.

The ADRENALINE from getting PLAYED OUT.

You are like the male version of the girl who can't let go of the badboy bf who keeps playing her out, but making her feel butterflies. Oh, the connection, the chemistry. Chemistry like crack rock.

This thread proves that men can be controlled and ruled by their emotions and not their heads and logic, same as women.

I know, because I am a master at getting into a man's head, when I want to. If I chose to use my powers for darkness, it would be OVER! Muahahahaha.

But I don't. Because I have integrity.

But it is fun to play with my prey when they are deserving of it.

 

[ThunderMaverick]

Maybe you just like the drama.

The ADRENALINE from getting PLAYED OUT.

You are like the male version of the girl who can't let go of the badboy bf who keeps playing her out, but making her feel butterflies. Oh, the connection, the chemistry. Chemistry like crack rock.

Dude, most of our relationship was drama free. We both disliked drama. We never kept each other around for drama. I came from a family who liked to scream and shout and I never wanted to experience that anywhere else. It was hard to keep that part about me under control when we DID have arguments. I grew up around it. It was all I knew.

This thread proves that men can be controlled and ruled by their emotions and not their heads and logic, same as women.

STOOOPID. Hello, McFly! Anyone home? *knocks on your 40 pound head* I am an emotional person, no doubt. How-e-vur, I don't let it rule me. I don't let it control my everyday life. Don't misrepresent this thread. You comment is valid if I did call her, if I went to her house, IF I STILL HUNG OUT WITH HER and PROFESSED MY UNWAIVERING LOVE TO HER!

I keep my emotions in check.

I know, because I am a master at getting into a man's head, when I want to. If I chose to use my powers for darkness, it would be OVER! Muahahahaha.

But I don't. Because I have integrity.

But it is fun to play with my prey when they are deserving of it.

Wow. Spoken like a TRUE girl.

 

[Warrior74]

play nice children.

 

[ThunderMaverick]

Me and Iqqi are in our "cootie" phase right now, Warrior. :crackup: