Guys, I'm about to crack right now.

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ThunderMaverick said:
You're missing the point. What we argued about had to do with the topic you were bringing up.

You're trolling. Unless you want to give advice on the topic at hand then please leave. KTHXBYE

No we weren't arguing over the topic. We were arguing over who's perception was right. The point is the same no one knows what will happen for a fact if you call her, only what would likely happen. I don't think it's a good idea to contact her but I don't think it's necessarily the worst thing in the world if you do. Who knows, maybe if you call her it will somehow give you closure. I honestly don't have enough info.
 

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TM, from your account, if I were in your shoes, I would not call her.

if there was a deep Love between you , she would have never been indecisive about some other guy.
She would want to keep the relationship safe, and do what she could do keep things good betwen you.

I think you're just missing some emotional intimacy here.

And your mind keeps bringing up the past in order to soothe you.
So you are beginning to make justifications and rationalizations to help you reconnect and get some emotional intimacy needs filled.

But according to your account, it doesnt look like it was something that strong and mature.

She mayhave changed, she may be remorseful.

She may want another chance.

Who knows?

But you did sound like you were getting Ego gratification from her.
And I think thats a big factor here too.

Youre feeling a little down and would like to feel good again, but you may be wanting ego gratification, which is ultimately destructive and unhealthy.

I dont think this is a good idea.

Im not saying do not contact her ever again.

But just wanting to 'chat' may not be the real reason here. Or a good enough one for her too.
(She may be wondering why you called.
and she WILL ask you eventually, "why are you calling me?")

If you did, then do so, but be prepared for any emotional aftershock.


Do it from strength, not weakness.

it IS possible to be amicable with exes.
It is entirely possible to rekindle romance.

But either way, dont do it for the wrong reasons.

good luck with this
I hope it works out
 

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Interceptor said:
TM, from your account, if I were in your shoes, I would not call her.

if there was a deep Love between you , she would have never been indecisive about some other guy.
She would want to keep the relationship safe, and do what she could do keep things good betwen you.

I think you're just missing some emotional intimacy here.

And your mind keeps bringing up the past in order to soothe you.
So you are beginning to make justifications and rationalizations to help you reconnect and get some emotional intimacy needs filled.

But according to your account, it doesnt look like it was something that strong and mature.

She mayhave changed, she may be remorseful.

She may want another chance.

Who knows?

But you did sound like you were getting Ego gratification from her.
And I think thats a big factor here too.

Youre feeling a little down and would like to feel good again, but you may be wanting ego gratification, which is ultimately destructive and unhealthy.

I dont think this is a good idea.

Im not saying do not contact her ever again.

But just wanting to 'chat' may not be the real reason here. Or a good enough one for her too.
(She may be wondering why you called.
and she WILL ask you eventually, "why are you calling me?")

If you did, then do so, but be prepared for any emotional aftershock.


Do it from strength, not weakness.

it IS possible to be amicable with exes.
It is entirely possible to rekindle romance.

But either way, dont do it for the wrong reasons.

good luck with this
I hope it works out

'Ceptor, you just opened my eyes a little more today.

I have no desire to call her anymore. Thank you.

I just miss her a lot because I still love her. (yeah I said it and I don't care) but I'm also pretty sure I'm missing her for the wrong reasons as well.
 

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ThunderMaverick said:
GAWD, Friv! It's not about other women. I'm getting laid on a regular basis. I don't NEED other women to cure this problem I have. Other women isn't the issue. It's ME. I'm the problem. I gotta figure myself out on this one.
YAY. :)

The wittle baby is all growed up. :D
 

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frivolousz21 said:
...you can easily game 3-4 women a week.
Really? Not for the guy who has weak game(not referring to you Thunder). Plus, like I always say, "gaming" them isn't that easy, EVEN when you're good at it, and on top of it, EVEN when you're above average looking.
 

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Thunder, whatever you do, don't call her, particularly if she was in the wrong, really. It makes you look really weak(as I'm sure you can imagine). It's definitely hard, but if she was in the wrong, then retain your dignity and prize mentality.

It's a different story if you were in the wrong and f*cked up the relationship, which in that case then I'd say, "sure, why not, call her".
 

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edger said:
Plus, like I always say, "gaming" them isn't that easy, EVEN when you're good at it, and on top of it, EVEN when you're above average looking.

says who?
 

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iqqi said:
YAY. :)

The wittle baby is all growed up. :D
Yeah yeah. I think I was saying that even before. Stop patting my head like a puppy! lol

Referring to your props for me for getting second place as far as reps are concerned...


I got a lot of reps from my last thread about rhetorical questions. However, this rep thing might be a joke. I'm second place to Rollo? Did you see the last topic I posted?! As in THIS ONE!? Hahaha

I'm still having trouble getting over the ex and I get second place over VM.

That's goofy! Thanks to all those who repped me though!
 

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I got a lot of reps from my last thread about rhetorical questions. However, this rep thing might be a joke. I'm second place to Rollo? Did you see the last topic I posted?! As in THIS ONE!? Hahaha!
Well, if you think you don't deserve them.

Anyways, you JUST shot up in the last few hours. ;)

Don't worry, VU will surpass you again soon. He definately is one of the best posters here. He just doesn't post OFTEN.

BTW, just because you are still learning from mistakes and choices, doesn't make you undeserving of any accolades. Look at how you handle criticism in this very thread, and how quick you are to see what is wrong with YOUR actions. You aren't playing the victim role, and that's a big deal. I'd rep you again, if I could. I have to go spread some around first. :)
 

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iqqi said:
Look at how you handle criticism in this very thread, and how quick you are to see what is wrong with YOUR actions. You aren't playing the victim role, and that's a big deal. I'd rep you again, if I could. I have to go spread some around first. :)
Wow you're not attacking my points or anything. I thought you were a troll?

What's the deal? j/k

Well despite HOW people give me advice, the advice from most people (even you, dear) is sound. I trust the judgment of the veterans here and 'Ceptor just tore the house down. I mean when I read his post this ache I had just disappeared . Like as fast as a snap of a finger.

I love you guys!
 

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guru1000 said:
says who?
Me, from my experience, and Keto has also aknowledged it as well.

I'm saying, it isn't easy when you first get out there and start trying to bag women. There's certain components to picking up that don't come through "common sense" that must be learned through sites like this and such, as well as through trial and error, in order to improve your results with women. So I'm trying to make that point, as well as that even when you have good game and good looks, it's still tough. I say this in a lot of posts(as I'm sure you've seen). I hate to rehash it again for the millionth time and sound like a broken record, lol, but you asked, so I'm responding.
 

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edger said:
Me, from my experience, and Keto has also aknowledged it as well.

I'm saying, it isn't easy when you first get out there and start trying to bag women. There's certain components to picking up that don't come through "common sense" that must be learned through sites like this and such, as well as through trial and error, in order to improve your results with women. So I'm trying to make that point, as well as that even when you have good game and good looks, it's still tough. I say this in a lot of posts(as I'm sure you've seen). I hate to rehash it again for the millionth time and sound like a broken record, lol, but you asked, so I'm responding.
I never learned on a site how to date women. I as well, never found it tough to lets say "spin plates".

Are you speaking for everybody or just the majority?
 

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guru1000 said:
I never learned on a site how to date women. I as well, never found it tough to lets say "spin plates".

Are you speaking for everybody or just the majority?
I'm speaking for everybody. I find it extremely hard to believe that from the time you started "going after" women, that you knew all the tricks of the trade; what makes them tick and what doesn't. The only way some of these "tricks" can be learned, is through trial and error, and places like this from guys who have run field tests and who have sufficient experience. Everybody f*cks up in the beginning, everybody. Nobody's a perfect player.
 

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Sorry to hijack this thread but I'm going to side with edger. I don't think its easy even for those that are successful with women. I think the only people that it comes easy for are alpha males. I don't consider myself an alpha male, to me its something that I just naturally do without thinking.

I think if you took a poll of the guys who've slept with more than 20 women on this site, the majority wouldn't say its easy for them. However I don't have any solid data to back up my thesis, its just something that I am drawing from an observation of what I can recall for people in my life.
 

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edger said:
Me, from my experience, and Keto has also aknowledged it as well.

I'm saying, it isn't easy when you first get out there and start trying to bag women. There's certain components to picking up that don't come through "common sense" that must be learned through sites like this and such, as well as through trial and error, in order to improve your results with women. So I'm trying to make that point, as well as that even when you have good game and good looks, it's still tough. I say this in a lot of posts(as I'm sure you've seen). I hate to rehash it again for the millionth time and sound like a broken record, lol, but you asked, so I'm responding.

Yeah if it was easy to find the girl you really want and that is into you, most guys would take the best sh!t they could find home and be done with it. A woman could be interested in 5 different guys at a bar or wherever and still end up coming home with no one. At any given there is a limit to how many attractive women who are going to be up for being bagged.
 

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