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Finally a thread worth reading and responding to. The IQ's of SS have risen about 10 pts since the opening of this thread.
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This site doesn't help anyone; you help yourself. That's it. Guys come here even now, and probably lease without anyone knowing. And guys visit here, seeing results, and never speak about it. How would one know? Maybe he DID in fact come here, lurk, and then leave? I'm sure the success rate is 100% because a person has to want it for themself. Wayword obviously "wants" for himself enough to make it happen. As demonstrated by 33 dead and 20 wounded, this supposed killer didn't "want" anything bad enough.
What of the guys here? Blaming the world for this fellows problems gives no respect or credence to the guys who come here, the guys who don't do jack but pay taxes and work, and the guys with honor. SS couldn't solve his problems anymore than the withdrawal method works against pregnancy. In all likelihood, if he had come here, he'd have implicated everyone here and we'd all be getting interviewed. Real problems aren't solved here, not the kind that lash out and shoot 53, 33 of them dead. The guys who come here and actually REALIGN themselves to ways that work, either had the wrong beliefs/perspective or, are incredibly strong and full of will power to do it on their own. This person was neither of those.
Let's not "assume" what his family life was or wasn't and deal with what happened, shall we? Do we remember the Menendez? Rich twins who killed their parents. You needn't been from the poor streets of Detroit or NYC to be a crazed maniac.
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People THINK that by eradicating weapons...you eradicate ALL avenues by which people are killed or violence is perpetrated. RIGHT. Just like if you make drugs ILLEGAL, then you eradicate all avenues of scoring pot, right? Ask any HS teenager what's easier to get...drugs or booze. Drugs. Booze is tougher b'c it's legal and regulated. You can't make it in your house in mass quantities without raising red flags. Yet, people can sow fields of pot and get away with it, or grow hydroponic pot in their house, and the pot from a few plants can supply people a month, or months.
Please, please, please, drop the idea that ridding the world of guns rids us of the "evil element." 2500 people died on 9-11, and no guns were used. Boxcutters and plans. How do you explain that? A freak accident? What about the Federal Building? Oh, fertilizer and a rental truck. ALL MEANS ANY HUMAN BEING WITH INTENTION CAN USE TO ENACT THEIR PLANS. Guns are ONE, just ONE weapon people use. Yet, day in and day out, cars, with or without drunken drivers kill WAY more than guns ever will. Shall we force everyone onto public transit?
People eat themselves to death, should we force them all onto restricted diets? They smoke themselves to death, AND the smoke from the cigarette is as toxic as it is first hand. Shall we make tobacco illegal, too?
The negative to having guns is LESS THAN the positive to GOOD people being armed. That's as simple as it can get. Granted, a criminal who wants to commit a crime, or a lover who wants to take his X down with him will do it faster with a gun than say a knife or bat, nonetheless, they will do it. Disarming ALL people only makes the price per gun go up on the black market AND let's criminal elements KNOW the populace is RIPE for the plucking. Don't most criminals look for the WEAKNESS LINK anyways? They certainly don't hit up armored cars, high security banks, or fort knox. Any place where people are known to defend themselves is likely to see low crime rates. In Maine, people know everyone is packing because almost everyone hunts, and up there, they WILL shoot. They have a more conservative view point on this.
Our liberal, weak-minded nature has allowed offenders SO many transgressions that it's permissible for people to commit CONSCIOUS, CHOSEN crimes and misdemeanors AND not suffer much penalty, if at all. People push the envelope specifically b/c they know, "there's no boundary." Most teens and girls know, they'll keep pushing UNTIL they hit a point they don't like, a wall, their father's fist, something. They need that. Instead of father's whacking little girls, they give them more crap for their overpriced bedrooms so when daddy isn't home, she can make porno vids for the whole internet to see. Seriously. How many girls have stupid digicams with ridiculous video done early on? Er, dad, want to step it up a little bit?
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Why would you rule out alternate theories on what happened?
A basic amateur finds 2 handguns, over 100 rounds, and with near perfect shooting, executes 32 people, 20 more wounded, and does so before the police can respond and take him down? As noted above, Columbine had 2 kids, teenagers, or 12 year olds, automatics, and bombs. Teachers risked their lives taking them out, before they died. Why, in a college setting where the kids are bigger, and stronger, and have a noted football team, did they not bum rush the shooter. Given that he DOES have to reload, there's a chance they could have taken him down. I can't speak for myself, since I've never been there and hope never to be there.
He's been planning this awhile, he wasn't alone, or there's more we're not being told.
And what this was like is 9-11, on a different scale. It's now the worst shooting tragedy in America, while 9-11 was deemed the WORST terrorist tragedy in America, surpassing Pearl Harbor. Anyone who's been to college, has relatives in college, or friends, FEELS VIOLATED. That's terrorism. They exsposed our greatest weakness, college campuses. People will rethink VA tech. They will rethink where they send their kids and how far they send them. They will be asking tough questions of college nows, such as protection, response time, and the like. This was more an act of terrorism than anything. The numbers demonstrate as much even if the MAINSTREAM, SHEEP NETWORKS don't.
Colleges have always BEEN the most security-lax institutions around:
-campus safety don't carry weapons and have terrible response times
-no walled fences or gated campuses
-any drunk would let any stranger into any building
-most college students are ignorant enough to leave their rooms unlocked
-no cameras
-no way for the campus to communicate on a mass scale with their student body and warn them of any events (aside from email but that's way too slow)
And now the world knows it. Isn't that terrorism, to strike at your weakest link and make you feel vulnerable so you rethink your way of life? A person purportedly as nuts as people are making this "Cho" out to be could very well have had ties elsewhere. Some reports even state a 2nd person being around. I daresay the tv and media outlets or giving us the correct story. They're just giving us the story they want us to believe.
A-Unit
