GUIDE TO CUTTING UP

[Viper]

Originally posted by Warboss Alex
1. Your cardio is burning off your breakfast.
2. You're not eating enough or often enough.
3. You sit on your arse for most of the day.
4. Quantity not quality does not get you anywhere, muscle-wise.
5. Your diet is probably lacking in protein and good fat.
6. What happens when your dumbbells get too light to challenge you?

How's that for a start?

[/quote]1. Your cardio is burning off your breakfast.[/quote]
So what should I do? Get up in the morning, stretch, do my cardio and then eat breakfest? But if I did that, I wouldn't have any energy.

2. You're not eating enough or often enough.

I agree with this.

3. You sit on your arse for most of the day.

Well, I don't get out alot since I'm not in any clubs and don't have many friends. Still, I don't see how this effects my workout.

4. Quantity not quality does not get you anywhere, muscle-wise.

I'll keep that in mind from now on.

5. Your diet is probably lacking in protein and good fat.

Presumably.

6. What happens when your dumbbells get too light to challenge you?

It will be a long time before that happens.

 

[Ominous_Antagonist]

I've been reading up on this health and fitness forum to try to answer some of my questions...sorry to make you read all of this and I appreciate your time.

I'm 16 currently weighing 174 assumingly(Weighted last friday from this diet I've been doing,somewhere around 5"8-10 tall)I used to weight about 224 and more before I started the diet,throughout the diet I have been working out, but I guess I haven't been "heavy lifting"doing 4-8 reps per set, instead doing 13-17 per set and 3 sets of that specific workout(Doing 2 hours of lifting every day on a 3 day routine workout), normally I would advance in weight when I reach 17+...yes ironically results are there

Should I change to heavy lifting to get better results?I have been using creatine(A little too much then recommended,I.e. using the creatine powder kind and the pilled version correctly)whey protein(I've been adding a scoop of that with the poweder creatine shakes at the times recommended{powder creatine directions} for the protein I need, from what I read I was astonished at exactly how much protein I needed so thats the reason for that, and the things I have been consuming based on the protein,i.e. 2 cans of tuna,2 cans of this slim-fast,and 2 spooning snacks of yogurt per day....Which averages somewhere around 180-190 grams of protein not including a possible meal that I would not normally want since the shakes fill me up too much)amino acid pills, and this One-A-Day vitamen tablets that I take two a day...

So my questions would be if I should start "heavy lifting" now or gradually get to it(do a little heavier everytime I do that workout untill I reach the ranged amount of reps for heavy lifting)?What else should I change to get better results and performance?...perhaps a recommendation?

(Other information, I assume and the doctor thats helping me lose weight also assume I'm gaining more muscle mass since the amount of pounds I lose a week are decreasing then usual since I started using creatine,amino acid pills,whey protein powder shakes)

on the third day of the routine workout I take it a bit easier and finish off with a quick mile of jogging the straights and walking the curves of this track.

My day is as follows, waking up without much sleep,
go to work untill about 5 in the afternoon which is the time I get home,then do whatever untill...
at 6 I take a creatine powder shake with the whey protein
Between 6-7, I might consume what I need for the protein and basic food
at 7 I begin working out, consuming the same shake but with the creatine pills as well.
at 8 I take the shake again, still working out
at 9 I finish working out and take the final shake
Then do whatever....then sleep

Oh and by the way I am a writer so wonder I blab on and on...

 

[semag]

My thoughts.

Should I change to heavy lifting to get better results?I

yes

I have been using creatine

drink a crapload of water

Which averages somewhere around 180-190 grams of protein

probably more needed

2 spooning snacks of yogurt per day

too many carbs

2 cans of this slim-fast

replace with real food

on the third day of the routine workout I take it a bit easier and finish off with a quick mile of jogging the straights and walking the curves of this track.

separate your running and workout. Put your workout on a different day, or way later in the day as opposed to your run. Also, I'd say increase your cardio by a day or two.

So my questions would be if I should start "heavy lifting" now or gradually get to it

Next time, bust it out so that you can only hit 10 reps for your last set. Next time you workout that muscle group, do 8. Then get down to 6.

 

[Ominous_Antagonist]

Thank you Semag, Tomarrow I will do what you recommended, and find a way to get the extra protein in me and rethink some things between the balance of the diet and the muscle gaining, I might just make the diet last till next week and go on my own for the food I need.

Oh that reminds me that I have to go to the general nutrition center(Gnc)...Running low on supplies again.

Thanks again.

 

[Warboss Alex]

Forget the creatine, the amino acid pills and the friggin' slim-fast (which should be banned IMO) until you're eating closer to one-and-a-half to twice your bodyweight in protein first, otherwise you're just wasting your money and not getting the results you potentially could with correct supplementation (which I stress, are absolutely nothing compared to what a proper diet would do for you).

Otherwise, follow Semag's advance. Only a young Jedi he is, but quickly learn he does.

 

[semag]

Originally posted by Ominous_Antagonist
general nutrition center(Gnc)...

you mean "get nothing cheap?"

dude... such a ripoff.

 

[Ominous_Antagonist]

Yeah its not very cheap, I stress my stomach being full alot just to try to have the proper amount of protein inside of me as it is(Even though its still not enough protein). Any meal kind of advice or something that can help me get the enriched amount of protein...? I mean what do you guys eat a day?

 

[Warboss Alex]

I mean what do you guys eat a day?

A lot.

To bump up your protein intake, use liquid protein supplements, and eat your protein first to make sure it gets ingested (i.e. you don't fill up on carbs or other stuff in a meal).

 

[pokie87]

I am about to begin my cutting cycle and was wondering about something. Is it ok to maybe have say a chocolate bar and still be able to cut. I am planning on having a treat every now and again but still keeping my calorie intake below maintenance. Would this method work in cutting or should all ''bad'' food be outlawed. Basically what I am wondering is that are you still able to cut if you are below maintenance but some foods that you had below maintenance were not the best ie high in fat and carbs. Any response will be much appreciated as this is a part of dieting that has often confused me.

 

[DJHoolahoop]

is it recommended to lift as much weight as many times as you can for each exercise?

 

[RaWBLooD]

Originally posted by DJHoolahoop
is it recommended to lift as much weight as many times as you can for each exercise?

only if u are hoping for failure

 

[kav_3]

I have a question about cutting, so you know for your diet how you're suppose to only eat a certain amount of calroies per a day, well how do you figure out how much claories you have eaten. This is where I mess up my diet on because i'll be at school most of the day and when I eat somethin at the cafeteria, I wont know how many calories, proteins, fats, ect there is in the food.

 

[RaWBLooD]

Originally posted by kav_3
I have a question about cutting, so you know for your diet how you're suppose to only eat a certain amount of calroies per a day, well how do you figure out how much claories you have eaten. This is where I mess up my diet on because i'll be at school most of the day and when I eat somethin at the cafeteria, I wont know how many calories, proteins, fats, ect there is in the food.

generally dont eat in the cafe, what you do is eat mostly the same foods every day (season it u stupid **** - for those who say thats "boring") and then you will know that is how much your body needs, eat less for cutting, and focus on protein, if you happen to do more stuff that day, eat a bit more, it takes experimentation, counting calories is stupid, as you wont ever count perfect, and your body needs more/less on a day to day.

 

[kav_3]

Originally posted by RaWBLooD
generally dont eat in the cafe, what you do is eat mostly the same foods every day (season it u stupid **** - for those who say thats "boring") and then you will know that is how much your body needs, eat less for cutting, and focus on protein, if you happen to do more stuff that day, eat a bit more, it takes experimentation, counting calories is stupid, as you wont ever count perfect, and your body needs more/less on a day to day.

Oh ok, thanks a lot for the reply man, I didn't think anyone would reply, alright this is going to help me a lot for my cutting, which i'm finally going to start on monday.

 

[TheBadMan]

Awesome! thanx Diesel, i found this thread just at the right time. Surely if the fat is still dropping theres no need to intensify the diet tho right? 1600 sounds like starvation for a pretty big guy...The cutting commences in 2 days!

Current stats:
Age:19
Height:5'11
Weight: 210lbs.
BF %: 15-17 roughly (will find out exactly soon)

Goal:
BF%: about 8-10... more about the look than the stat to me.

Aiight, gimme 10-12 weeks! Think I should be mean and lean at about 185-190lbs. if i do this right. Peace

1,
The Bad Man

http://www.myspace.com/zubyuk

 

[Split Infinity]

All right, here's my deal, and it's a fairly odd one so bear with me.

I'm around 5'10 and 135 pounds, which, to most people sounds like someone who has no need to cut down on calories and the like. My problem is that my mid section is soft... Very soft. I have two big rolls when I sit down on my stomache, and I want to get rid of them and make my abs visible.

I also want to get fairly big, but I thought I would focus on getting the abs down first (because from what I've read it's all about diet and fat loss and has little to do with how you workout) and then move onto building. If this is the wrong way to go about it, feel free to point it out.

I'll be straight up and say I have no idea what a lot of these terms you guys throw around in these threads mean in terms of supplements, ways of working out, "maintaining" etc. I'll also mention that I have absolutely no clue how many calories I eat a day, but I'm sure that's easy enough to figure out.

So here's my problem: I'm not sure if the original program posted is too drastic for me (it sounds like it, I'm a pretty skinny bastard, and I'm only a slight bit porky-- and I do mean slight. Except for a small developing spare tire, my stomache is completely flat.) and if it is, I have no idea how to go about getting a six pack.

I know it's a pain for anyone to try and personalize a schedule for one single person, but any help provided would be appreciated.

(If that last sentence didn't clue you in, I'm a "nice guy" too. But I'm working on that one. @_@)

 

[fan27]

Great thread Diesel. I have been doing mainly cardio (running, swimming, cycling) for the past 9 years with some high rep light weight training thrown into the mix. While I have been for the most part satisfied with the look of my body, I gained about 7 lbs of fat around my gut once I turned 30. It was a surprise as nothing in my routine changed.

I typically do about 30 - 60 mins of cardio every day. I am going to change my routine to do HIIT instead of my typical steady pace cardio. I shortened my swim yesterday to 30 min and did half sprints and half slow laps. It was great. Here is my new workout mix per week.

2 days - Full body workout with weights (Low rep - high weight)
2 days - Run HIIT
1 day - Swim HIIT
1 day - Bikrham yoga
1 day - Bike ride (easy- rest day)


The hard part is going to be the food of course. I'm excited about this routine.

fan27

 

[TheBadMan]

Alright I'm 6 weeks in so far and its coming along well! I'm about half way there! Here's a couple measurements to show my progress.

Start:
Weight- 210lbs
Arms (Flexed)- 16.6"
Waist- 35"

Today(after 6 weeks):
Weight- 193lbs
Arms (Flexed)- 16.3"
Waist- 32.5"

And the mirror is showing some big changes! Looking a lot leaner and my training isnt suffering cuz I'm not restricting carbs beyond necessary. Actually gotten a little stronger in some areas!

Holla!

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[shydude]

GReat!! I been loosing weight for a wekk!! lost 5 pounds!

 

[reyalp]

Next time, bust it out so that you can only hit 10 reps for your last set. Next time you workout that muscle group, do 8. Then get down to 6.

Good advice.
As a matter of fact, I was just thinking to myself when I saw the thread: If you aren't used to lifting heavy, I'd recommend you work into lifting heavy so you don't sacrifice your form, cheat or injure yourself.
Lee Haney put it best: "There is a direct correlation between how much weight you handle in strict form on a particular exercise and the relative mass of the muscles involved in that movement. In other words, you have to lift big to get big."