SW15
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If you think money is what gets women and you actually get money, you'll end up being a beta ATM which she withdraws money from and gives you boring, perfunctory sex at most. Then she'll get actual romance and sex on the side when you aren't looking, and the guy will likely be some broke musician or barista.
Here's the thing: all of incels in San Francisco and Silicon Valley are making a lot of money, 6 figures minimum. A decent number are making around 700k a year. They aren't getting sex, the tattooed line cook who serves them food is. Even the drug addicts on the streets are doing better.
Why? Because women are attracted to your identity & your vibe, not your cash. Money only correlates with things women are attracted to, such as competence, status, and independence.
Game is a combination of looks, money, status, and personality. For men, looks are #1 by a large margin up until their mid 30s. After a man reaches his mid 30s, looks are still important and usually #1 but by a smaller margin. Other factors (including money) start to play a bigger role after a man reaches 35 in his overall SMV.The Tech Bro can either settle with a woman to his liking or keep playing the field because he has a decent job that makes up for his age.
If money is all that a man has going for him in his SMV, then the beta ATM classification above is true. A well known example of this is Bill Gates during the 1980s-2000s. His money and Microsoft CEO status enable him to attract and retain a mediocre looking Microsoft employee who was a feminist/careerist with an MBA from an elite program (Duke University).
Tech company STEM employees are an interesting case study. Most of these STEM workers employed at tech companies make good money. Money is all that they have going for them. Their looks are often mediocre to subpar and they don't have top executive status. Middle manager/team lead/Director status isn't that meaningful. Personalities aren't great. Not all of these STEM guys are incel as some are quasi incel. These 'quasi incel' men aren't getting laid through conventional dating but they are getting laid because they are paying directly for sex. They're not celibate because they are having some sex.
Men with McJobs or blue collar workers often have better looks and personalities than the STEM worker guys who are going to be incel or borderline incel. The McJob or blue collar worker is better positioned to get laid and have extended relationships through conventional dating. A lot of STEM workers will be able to use their money to have sex with hotter paid women (including sugar type arrangements) as compared to a middle aged line cook getting with some mediocre to subpar middle aged woman.
This is generally accurate but too narrow of a viewpoint.In any event, money matters depending on the AGE of the women. A 22 year old girl isn't going to care about money, she has sex appeal and is going to care about a man's height and hair and body A 42 year old woman with 2 kids is going to care about money, she has 0 sex appeal is going to care about a man's bank balance.
Everything depends on a woman's youth.
The 22 year old woman isn't going to care about money when she's mostly evaluating close to her own age. When she's dealing other other 20 something men, looks factors will matter far more than money. When a man in his 30s/40s wants to attract, seduce, and retain an early to mid 20s woman for an extended period of time, money will matter. A 37 year old man is going to need money + looks for a 22 year old girlfriend. The 22 year old woman can get looks alone from 22-27 year old men, but she can't get money from them. That's where money makes a difference.
A 42 year old woman with 2 kids needs a beta provider. She's also only dealing with men 42-55 in most cases. Even a childless 42 year old woman is likely to consider money more.