Going out with a bang...

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Well, I graduate from college in about three/four weeks.

During my time here, I was not very social at all. I hardly made any friends and I never kissed a girl or went on a date. This has mostly to do with my family upbringing. I was home schooled and lived in virtual isolation until I moved to college. Looking back, I realize that my parents were quite antisocial, as they didn't seem to have any friends either and we only had other people over for dinner probably once or twice a year, if at all. We visited other people even less often than that.

When I first arrived at school, I couldn't really even hold a conversation. When I heard people say 'Hello' or wave, I couldn't tell if they were talking to me or someone else. To make matters worse, I am very poor speaker. I speak through my nose and don't enunciate enough. I've gotten better through the years, though.

Furthermore, I have almost nothing in common with anyone. I don't own a TV. I don't watch movies. I don't play video games. I don't drink or smoke or do drugs. I am not a Democrat or a Republican. I am not religious or "spiritual". My degree is in math, which is a field hardly any Americans are in, and even less women.

However, despite all this, I can't say that I have not had women be attracted to me. I can recall two times which I totally blew extremely obvious come-ons.

The best I can describe is that one day, I was just in a weird mood or something and instead of being a shy and clumsy person I was acting confident. I said a lot of 'C+F' things to these girls and then, later on when I saw them again I could tell by the eye contact and body language that they were way into me. Knowing this made me nervous and act more like a chump and so I blew those opportunities.

That is my big problem, actually. When I am nervous or don't know what to do I revert to a monotone, mumbly, nasally voice and act like a wimp.




So, anyway, I graduate soon. I already have a job arranged. I am really going to concentrate in the next few weeks on improving my social skills with women. One of the big fears I have is that I will get a reputation as a loser when I talk to girls and get rejected by them. But I don't even need to care about that anymore because I'll probably never see these people again after graduating. If I can improve my delivery enough, I will even try the 'apocalypse opener' during finals week.



Sorry for the long, rambling post. I will try to update this thread with progress as it happens.
 
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Okay, well, I had typed this all out and then lost it before. So here it is again.


On Friday, I went out with the goal of 10 approaches in mind. I was by myself in the downtown bar area of my college town. These are very weak approaches by most standards, but for me pretty good. It's way better than how I did when I tried doing this a bit last year.


I didn't have any lines planned. I just went with whatever I could think of. Maybe this isn't such a good idea, I don't know.


1:

A girl kind of walked away from the crowd and covered her mouth her the bottom of her shirt while looking back at the people she was with.

Me: Are those your friends? Are you embarassed to be associated with them?
Her: Just the one person. I'm trying to get out of the smoke for a minute. *starts coughing*
Me: Okay. Well, if you need someone to perform the Heimlich maneuver, let me know.
Her: *kind of rolls her eyes* Right...
*eject*

Then she goes back and really plasters herself all over a huge WWF-pro wrestler looking guy.

2:

The 'are you embarrassed' thing seemed interesting so I tried it again.

A girl is standing with her back to me, while her friend talks to some guy. She isn't involved in the conversation.

Me: Is that your friend? Are you embarrassed to be associated with her?
Her: What? Oh, no. That's my best friend.
Me: Are you disgusted by her behavior?
Her: Huh? No, I love that girl. We're together, actually.
Me: Oh, okay. Well, appearances can be deceiving.
*eject*


3:
One more try at the same thing

A girl is standing by a table while her friend talks to some guy. She is kind of looking straight ahead at a wall.

Me: Is that your friend? Are you embarrassed to be associated with her?
Her: Yeah. I'm just standing around doing nothing.

Big smile and eye contact..the most receptive so far. But I choke and can't think of anything to say.

Me: Have you ever noticed how when somebody hands you something, no matter how useless, you are socially programmed to accept it?
*I try to give hand her a napkin from the table as I say this. She doesn't take it.*
Me: Whoops, well, you didn't fall for it.
Her: Right...

She turns and starts talking to some guy who sat down at the table.

*eject*



4:
I decide that I have said the same thing too many times and need to try something else. All I could think of was something stupid, though. But I went for it.

A girl is sitting at a table. She has some friends with her but they are looking the other way talking to someone else. She isn't in the conversation.

Me: Hey, are you a college student? [90% of the young people in our town are.]
Her: No.
Me: Really? Because we have all these squirrels on campus and I need to find out if they're safe to eat.
Her: Oh, I'm definitely not a student. I'm from [three hours away].
Me: But don't they have squirrels there?
Her: *looking annoyed* Probably not.
*eject*




5:

I start to think that I need to do what we call 'plowing' in this community. So far, I leave as soon as the first thread in the conversation is over, or as soon as the girl shows any disinterest. So I try to do that on the next one.

Looking back, this was actually a quite tasteless thing to say. I just said it because it was the first thing I could think of:

A girl with her arm in a cast is standing up, talking to a friend who is seated at a table.

Me: Did she do that to you?
Her[looking pissed off]: What? She certainly didn't...

She leaves.

Friend: What?
Me: What, what?
Friend: What did you ask her?
Me: Just a question, nothing harmless I assure you.
Friend: Oh, okay.

She turns away.

Me: My name is [name], by the way.
*I put my hand foward to shake hers*
Her: Oh, [name]?
Me: That's right.
Her: I'm [...]
*she smiles a little*

Then I choke again

Me: Okay, nice meeting you.

*eject*



Despite the mediocrity of all this, I started to get a feeling that it wasn't really that hard and that maybe I should just 'kamikaze' and try to get a girls phone number, even though I know it wouldn't work. Just try, I thought.

But it was a real sausage factory downtown. It seemed like there were 4-5 guys for each girl. I was by myself and had been there for about an hour and a half now and only managed these five approaches. I was starting to get a headache from all the smoke, too, so I left.


My schedule with school is extremely busy for the next few days, so I'll try again on Wednesday, hopefully.
 

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Dude....squirrels? wtf? lol

At least your approaching. Just keep approaching until you're good enough to start a decent conversation.
 

Tell her a little about yourself, but not too much. Maintain some mystery. Give her something to think about and wonder about when she's at home.

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Continue to read and study what is on this board. Read posts in the Don Juan Bible, and also do a search for the Book of Pook. Pook's posts have had the most personal impact on me; Senor Fingers's posts are also definitely informative.

Sarging girls has always been easier for me when I am out with a group of friends and not by myself. They get me in a positive mood, which is very important, and plus it just makes you look cooler to be rolling around in a group (read about Senor Fingers theory of social proof).

You're going to probably eventually do some major lifestyle changes. When I was a freshman in high school, I was pretty quiet and introverted. That changed as time went on. I started working out, started learning more about fitness and taking it seriously, and made some appearance changes. I had some dorky, shaggy hair (might look good on some people, not for me), and clipped it down to a 2-razor. I started dressing better and eating better, and I started hanging out with more people.

Just focus on making friendships with guys (no homo), getting your life generally figured out, and the girls will come.

ALSO, find an end of the year party and go crazy. Do NOT wait until finals week because everyone will be busy studying. The week at the start of the year and the last week of actual classes are usually the craziest, at least on my campus.
 
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Hmm, good advice.

Presently, I think I am in okay shape. I walk everywhere I go and don't really eat any junk food. I probably don't eat enough though and I am pretty scrawny. I have already gone through the youthful, ridiculous hairstyle and now I have a short, clean cut.

Finding an 'end of the year' party is going to be pretty hard, though. Nobody in my college department (math) is a big party person at all. We're all just dorks.

Now that I think of it, though, as a way of trying to become a better speaker back in my early days of college I tried becoming involved in theatre. It was a marginal success, but I became acquainted with a lot of those people. Man, they're a different breed than the math people. There was a big party practically every night with them. Of course, I didn't have a car at the time and only attended two of these parties--This accounts for 2/3 of the parties I have been to in my college life.

I haven't seen most of those people in a long, long time and I never knew them too well, but maybe I should try finding them and asking them about parties.






I intended to go out again on Thursday. My objectives were to:

1) Do 10 approaches

2) Waste less time standing around pretending to watch the TVs or looking at my phone.

3) At least once, try to 'kamikaze' and ask a girl for her phone number, regardless of whether I thought she would give it or not.



I normally wear glasses and I am practically blind without them. I can't read business signs on the road as I walk down the sidewalk. But I leave my glasses in the car when I do approaches because I look a lot less dorky. The near-blindness would actually come into effect a little bit this time, though.


I didn't really feel like going out, but I did it anyway because I knew the next week was going to be too busy and I wouldn't get another chance for a while.

So anyway, I arrive on the scene and after presenting my ID, I go inside. Normally I would move off to the side and try to look around a bit before talking to anyone, but I stuck with my objective and walked up to the first girl I saw.

1

She was kind of heavy-set and was alone at the bar, looking up at a TV. It had close-captioning on but it was screwing up and displaying a bunch of garbage instead of actual words. We've all seen that, right?


Me: Are you reading that? What does it say?
Her: Yup. It says 'blah blah blah, blah blah blah blah'.

She smiles. I don't really know what to do or say.

Me: Hmm, wow. I guess you are fluent in that language.
Her: Uh huh.

*eject*

This is one of those bars with a patio outside. It's a nice day and there isn't really anyone inside, so I go out there.

2

I see a group of four girls dancing with eachother. They are presumably making up the silliest and lamest dances they can think of, because they are laughing and look ridiculous.

Me: Wow, you guys have some serious moves.
One of them looks at me and gives one of those polite, 'go away' smiles.
Me: You should be professionals or something. You look just like the girls in those music videos.
The same girl says something which I can't really hear. "mm hmm' or 'uh huh' or something. Then she turns back to the others.

That pretty much sucked. :p


3

I see a girl standing by herself, looking up at the big screen TV.

Me: Hey, is that your favorite show?
She looks at me like this
Her: I don't know.
Me: Do you even own a TV?
Her: I don't know.
She walks away.


4

Unlike last week, there seems to be a more equal level of women to men. I go back downstairs for a minute to use the restroom. After I come out, I see some guy and his friend yelling at eachother. One wants to go to a different bar, and the other wants to pee first. So eventually the guy goes to the bathroom and while he wants, the other guy says hello to me and shakes my hand.

He's really drunk. For some reason this changes my whole mood and now I feel a lot more playful.

Two hot girls walk by and I slow-motion kick one of them in the butt. Actually I just do the motion, no contact. She looks back but doesn't say anything and keeps moving.

The drunk guy says 'whoa, you like that? why aren't you going after her'. I say it's too late now, but I'll try harder on the next one.

I see two more girls and two guys coming up. I smile and reach my hand out to shake one of their hands.


Me: 'Hello, how are you? What's going on?'

Like I said, I wasn't wearing my glasses and couldn't see very well. I actually know this girl. She is quite hot and is one of the girls I mentioned at the beginning of the thread when I talked about missing obvious come-ons. But I couldn't tell it was her until she was within two feet of me.

She says hello and says that she's going to go outside to the patio because it's nice out. She smiles but I can tell that she doesn't have the same attraction to me like she used to. The drunk guy asks me why I didn't go with her. Maybe I should have, but I didn't want to seem awkward, especially with those two guys with her.


[5]

I see a girl sitting at a table with a bunch of friends. They are all talking to eachother and she is sort of left out, looking out the window. I try my same lame-ass approach from last time:

Me: Do you know these people? Are you embarrassed to be around them?
Her: No, I'm just hanging around with my friends.
Me: Yeah, but you look embarrassed. Your face is red.

This is true, because she was wearing a red coat and it reflected on her face.
Suddenly her friends notice and start making howling and hooting noises at her.

She says something but I can't hear her over the howling. I couldn't think of anything to say and it seemed to be an awkward moment.

Me: You have some pretty strange friends.

*eject*



[6]

I see a older woman (30s, but still good looking) sitting alone at the bar. She looks straight at me as I walk up to her. I start to speak but she says something first:

Her: Hi, do you want to play with me?
Me: If I must. What are we playing?

I sit next to her. I notice now that she's in front of one of those game-machine things which they have in bars.

Her: We're going to play this picture-matching game. You look at these two pictures and see what's different.
Me: Well, I normally wear glasses and I can't see anything, but okay.

Me: Do you ever read the ingredients on these or do you just chug it down and hope for the best?
Her: Right. *she laughs a little*

She puts money into the machine and the game starts. I can't see at all and can barely even see the pictures. Looking back this didn't really matter, but I didn't know what to do or say so I just ejected. Later on I saw her doing the same thing with another guy, and I saw her leaving with him, too.






I was getting pretty tired at this point, but actually I did 4 more approaches. I can't really remember them though, nothing too special. I also went out on that patio twice to try and talk to the girl I knew from before, but when I looked around I couldn't see far enough to tell if she was still there.

So I did manage to do 10 approaches and I also didn't waste nearly as much time standing around as last week. I didn't ask for a phone number though.

My lesson from this is that although I don't have 'approach anxiety', I have 'staying around' anxiety. What do you suppposed to do after you approach? :p
 

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i think you eject too soon without really trying, but i really see some progress. try introducing yourself a little more, Hi I'm...
It will most likely lead to a boring convo, but that could lead to who knows.
 

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FireOnTheMountain said:
I see a girl standing by herself, looking up at the big screen TV.

Me: Hey, is that your favorite show?
She looks at me like this
Her: I don't know.
Me: Do you even own a TV?
Her: I don't know.
She walks away.
Hahahahhahahhaha, omg you just made my day, that was so fvcking funny :crackup:
 
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Well, the last week and a half or so has been wierd for me.

I thought I had a job for sure and I don't. Now I am graduating and not really sure what to do. It's kind of depressing.

I also haven't really done any approaching at all, even though I only had one very easy final to take and a lot of free time. I just don't feel like doing it--I'm not nervous or anxious at all. It's just not fun.


My neighbor is a crazy person. I think he's a cocaine addict or something and he thinks I'm gay and keeps trying to give me porn to convert me. He also knocked on my door like 8 times last night asking for money so he could buy beer. He is really driving me nuts lately.

So I went out kind of pissed off and kind of laughing at the situation. Either way, I needed to get away from that dude. I still don't even want to look at him right now.



I only did three approaches, but I felt I actually made a lot of progress.


On the first one, I tried hard to stay around even though I felt like I was overstaying my welcome:




Two girls are sitting at a table. One girl has a wierd yellowish, blueish greenish drink on the table.


Me: What's that? It looks like antifreeze or something
Her: It's...blahblah, i can't hear her.
Me: Oh, is it good?
Her: Yeah...[She turns away]
Me: I don't know, it looks gross. If it's good, why isn't she having one[I motion to the other girl]
Her: [mumbles something and turns away again]
Me: So you guys look really excited to be here.
Her: Oh yeah.
Me: You're just quivering with excitement.
Her: Right...[she turns away a third time]
Me: I'm [name] by the way
She says something which I can't hear and doesn't turn around this time.



Then I was walking to a different place, there was some police car with it's lights flashing in the street. Two girls are standing outside watching. I say something dumb, like 'It looks like the fuzz is out in force tonight'. They give an awkward smile and I give up and keep moving.




Then the third one is probably the best so far. It's way too long to transcribe. I felt like I actually 'got in the door' for a change and had a real conversation on and off for about an hour and 15 minutes. Once I felt that I was having success, it was actually pretty natural to be funny, make eye contact. I even did 'kino' for the first time. She put her hand on the top of my chair and I put mine on top of it--It's nothing noteworthy for the 'pros', of course, but to me it was a big deal.

She kept smiling and raising her eyebrows at me during the conversation.


Eventually the bar was closing and she came up to me...

Her: Well [name], it looks like I have to walk home.
Me: Yeah? How far is that?
Her: blahblah, by suchandsuch street. do you know where that is?
Me: Kind of. It isn't that far.

Then I launched into a boring story about the farthest I ever had to walk at night, after that she left with her friends (and rode home in a van).



Am I delusional, or did I just choke on an easy opportunity? She had asked me if I had driven over and where I had parked my car earlier in the night.
 

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"Yeah I know where it is. Come on, I'll give you a ride."

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Okay, so it's been a long time since I posted anything. I have been very, very busy with getting a job and a new apartment lately.


Graduation was last week. I am not exactly friends with, but well acquainted with most of the people in my department since it's so small. So I ended up going downtown with 3 of them. Now, I posted before that I never drink beer, but I decided to make an exception since it was a special occasion--This was actually only the second time in my whole college career which I drank alcohol. I would just break off with those three guys now and then when I saw a girl and try to talk to her, and I had the most success so far.


I really made a breakthough. Yes, the alcohol does help with loosening up and relaxing, but I think it was actually more because I was around other people. I was in a social mood, making jokes and conversation. I also had something to go back to after approaching. Another thing which helped a lot of was the audio files which Phat Rabbit posted in his thread. Hearing the conversations is a lot different than reading them.

I did about 6 or 7 approaches. I can't remember the details of most of them since it was over a week ago now. But I did so much better than anything I've posted in this thread. I remembered to do 'kino' on each one.

So for the first time thus far, I actually had fun approaching girls and I feel much more confident than I did before.





On Thursday night, as I was driving through somewhere on my way back to school, I stopped at a bar and thought I would try some more approaches since I was feeling confident. I can remember some of these, so I'll post them:


1

I see a girl standing by the bar counter, with a friend seated in front of her. There's some other people nearby, but I can't tell if they're all one group.

Me: Are these your friends?
Her: Yeah, this is my friend here. [she motions to the girl sitting down]
Me: Really? You look kind of bored.
Her: Not really, I'm just waiting until I have a drink.
Me: What are you going to have?
Her: Roman coke[? I can't really hear her]
Me: Oh, yeah? That's good for you.
Her: Uh huh.
Me: It makes you grow up big and strong and grow a hairy chest.
Her: [laughing]No!
Me: You don't want to have a hairy chest?
Her: [says something but I can't hear her]
Me: What's your name, by the way?

She answers and I tell her my name. We shake hands and I ask her if she's in school (I took that from Phat Rabbit, it's a natural sounding question). She actually also graduated from the same university as me on Saturday, it turns out. She asks if I want to hang out with her and her friend.

More small talk and jokes follow. This all is going well, but then I stumble when she asks if I want to buy her drink. I suppose I should have been expecting that, but I wasn't.

My answer was full of "uh"s and "um"s and I ended up saying something like "Mmm, uh, only chumps do that". Instead of seeming relaxed and confident I think I came across as a cheap loser. It kind of fizzles out after that.


2
Two very similar looking girls are standing next to each other.

Me: Are you sisters?
1: No, that's my daughter.
Me: What? No way!
1: No, really.
Me: Wow, well...that's pretty good, right?
1: Uh huh.

Meh.


3

I see a girl standing by herself, pressing buttons on her phone.

Me: That's always a good trick.
Her: What?
Me: Pretending to text message people when you're by yourself, so you don't look like a loser.
Her[looking pissed]: Do I know you?
Me: Not really.
Her: Well, I was texting my friend.
Me: Oh, okay. What's your name, by the way?
Her: I'm [..]
I introduce myself and we shake hands.
Her: I have a boyfriend.
Me: So that is really a classic phone. Everybody has had one of those, I think.[She has one of those silver Samsung phones, you know the one].
Her: Yeah, I guess.
Me: Check it out...[I show her my phone, which is a similar model]


She seemed *****y and defensive the whole time, so I eject.



4

I see a girl and three friends sitting around near a pool table. I decide to go for a more direct approach.

Me: Hey, what's going on?
The girl who answers is the only one I ever talk to.
Her: Hi.
Me: I'm [name], and you are?
Her: [name]
We shake hands.
Her: It's my birthday today.
Me: Oh, how old are you?
Her: Guess...

It turns out she is six years older than me. We talk for about 10 minutes. I throw in a lot of kino and jokes. This girl seems way into me from the beginning. The opening I used wasn't that great but she is completely ignoring her friends.

Then she asks if I want to buy her a drink. I didn't want to end it like the last one, but it seems like such a chump thing to do. So I compromise and say that I'll do it if she can beat me at a 'thumb war'. She does and we go over to the bar. She grabs my arm while we walk over.


She then tells me she has three kids and asks me if I can believe it. I slowly and deliberately look at her butt and say "Yeah, I guess so".

"That wasn't very nice."

Instead of saying anything, I give her a pretty hard spank,. This was pretty spontaneous but it seemed like a good idea.

She kind of laughs and says "That wasn't very nice either!". Then she kind of stutters something about how it was good because she didn't expect it.


We go back to the pool table by her friends. I lean with my back against the table and she does the same next to me. As an experiment in kino, I put my hand on hers.

The music is pretty loud and now she is rubbing herself against me. She positions herself in front of me and kind of humps against me and asks if I want to dance with her.

I should have done it, but I never have before and I was worried I'd look dumb. She says she has to go to the bathroom and all of her friends go with her. Using the bathroom is really a social thing for girls, isn't it?


I wander around a bit and talk to another girl. She is a lesbian and introduces me to her girlfriend.


I am getting tired and decide that I'll go home. I'll find that girl again and ask for her phone number--My first number-close. She isn't really very hot and I'm not particularly interested in her, but I feel like getting a number would be a good confidence booster for me.


So I go back to the same area and her friends are there again. She says that she was looking for me.

Me: I have to go...Why don't you give me your number, though?
Her: Oh, uhh...
Pause
Her: Hold on. [She turns and whispers something to her friend]
Her: Sorry...my friends won't let me.
What the hell?
Me: Oh, really?
Her: You can give me your number though
Friend: You definitely are not getting her number.
Me: Do I look untrustworthy?
Friend: Absolutely
Me: Well, I can't be that bad. It's your birthday, be spontaneous.
Her: I don't have a phone
What the hell?
Me: Oh, okay.

I didn't want to beg or seem needy, so I just headed out. After all the body-contact when she asked me to dance, I thought for sure I'd get it. Oh well.






I have definitely improved from when I started last month, though.
 

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Bro everything that you said to these h0s had me dyin. Keep pushin bro. Dont give a flying fvck about these dumbas$ $luts.

About the girl whom you didnt dance with and she said her friends wouldnt let
her give you her number = bs.

Good **** man hang it in. Im proud of you for doing that **** yourself, thats kinda how I started out. Hang in there
 

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Ha, ****-blocked by her friend, what a classic move. Your approach was actually very good until you refused to dance. Lesson learned, you should talk to her friends and get on their good side as well, since peer pressure was apparently very persuasive.

FYI, it's not a "Roman coke" it's rum and coke.
 
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You're making a lot of great improvement, you should definitely be proud of how far you've come in just 4 field reports. I'd say just keep pushing in every situation to try and improve your general ability to hold conversations with strangers even if it gets difficult.

As for the dancing, so long as you're not self-conscious it'll be fine. Hell, make a joke out of how bad you are at dancing and be a bit ridiculous. Maybe try just practicing dancing with your friends if you get a chance so you get used to it.

Keep up the good work!
 

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FireOnTheMountain said:
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I see a girl and three friends sitting around near a pool table. I decide to go for a more direct approach.

Me: Hey, what's going on?
The girl who answers is the only one I ever talk to.
Her: Hi.
Me: I'm [name], and you are?
Her: [name]
We shake hands.
Her: It's my birthday today.
Me: Oh, how old are you?
Her: Guess...

It turns out she is six years older than me. We talk for about 10 minutes. I throw in a lot of kino and jokes. This girl seems way into me from the beginning. The opening I used wasn't that great but she is completely ignoring her friends.

Then she asks if I want to buy her a drink. I didn't want to end it like the last one, but it seems like such a chump thing to do. So I compromise and say that I'll do it if she can beat me at a 'thumb war'. She does and we go over to the bar. She grabs my arm while we walk over.


She then tells me she has three kids and asks me if I can believe it. I slowly and deliberately look at her butt and say "Yeah, I guess so".

"That wasn't very nice."

Instead of saying anything, I give her a pretty hard spank,. This was pretty spontaneous but it seemed like a good idea.

She kind of laughs and says "That wasn't very nice either!". Then she kind of stutters something about how it was good because she didn't expect it.


We go back to the pool table by her friends. I lean with my back against the table and she does the same next to me. As an experiment in kino, I put my hand on hers.

The music is pretty loud and now she is rubbing herself against me. She positions herself in front of me and kind of humps against me and asks if I want to dance with her.

I should have done it, but I never have before and I was worried I'd look dumb. She says she has to go to the bathroom and all of her friends go with her. Using the bathroom is really a social thing for girls, isn't it?


I wander around a bit and talk to another girl. She is a lesbian and introduces me to her girlfriend.


I am getting tired and decide that I'll go home. I'll find that girl again and ask for her phone number--My first number-close. She isn't really very hot and I'm not particularly interested in her, but I feel like getting a number would be a good confidence booster for me.


So I go back to the same area and her friends are there again. She says that she was looking for me.

Me: I have to go...Why don't you give me your number, though?
Her: Oh, uhh...
Pause
Her: Hold on. [She turns and whispers something to her friend]
Her: Sorry...my friends won't let me.
What the hell?
Me: Oh, really?
Her: You can give me your number though
Friend: You definitely are not getting her number.
Me: Do I look untrustworthy?
Friend: Absolutely
Me: Well, I can't be that bad. It's your birthday, be spontaneous.
Her: I don't have a phone
What the hell?
Me: Oh, okay.

I didn't want to beg or seem needy, so I just headed out. After all the body-contact when she asked me to dance, I thought for sure I'd get it. Oh well.
You should be proud as you did most things right, except that you should have danced with her. I'll forgive you since you don't really know how :D , but dancing is one of the main tools of a DJ so be sure to learn. Because i bet that's one of the main reason you didn't get the number. Keep up the nice work.

-drtk
 

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