Girls That Drink Alot Of Alcohol

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Where are you meeting these women? What young hot woman doesn't drink unless it's for religious reasons or being overly sheltered at home. This seems like an anomaly.
The point is, you are framing this as having a sheltered woman is a bad thing. It is not. Men should want a sheltered woman for LTR. Chicks with “experience,” have experience running the streets.
 

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The point is, you are framing this as having a sheltered woman is a bad thing. It is not. Men should want a sheltered woman for LTR. Chicks with “experience,” have experience running the streets.
Chicks with "experience" running the streets were usually smothered sheltered women prior. Are you going to keep this girl locked in your house forever. My case and point is to LTR a girl that was mature enough not to surrender to the streets and stress related vices such as weight gain, bi-polarism, and etc. You don't know how this girl is going to react to the real world in the coming years.
 

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Where are you meeting these women? What young hot woman doesn't drink unless it's for religious reasons or being overly sheltered at home. This seems like an anomaly.
A lot of them don't. Or if they do it's very seldom. It's not that rare. But if you hang out in bars they'll be harder to find, ha.

You don't know how this girl is going to react to the real world in the coming years.
No one can see the future. She's probably better off w/him if he can lead. Any betrayal and she's out. So what.
 

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A lot of them don't. Or if they do it's very seldom. It's not that rare. But if you hang out in bars they'll be harder to find, ha.
You are going to find most hot young women in college or areas with a lot of bars like Miami and city centers. He isn't hitting on the finest women at local religious institutions, so I am deeply curious where he is finding them.

No one can see the future. She's probably better off w/him if he can lead. Any betrayal and she's out. So what.
Sounds like a waste of time to me lol.
 

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You are going to find most hot young women in college or areas with a lot of bars like Miami and city centers. He isn't hitting on the finest women at local religious institutions, so I am deeply curious where he is finding them.



Sounds like a waste of time to me lol.
Bars are everywhere. Nobody is required to drink. Many beautiful young non religious women in cities don't frequent bars. You can meet girls almost anywhere. In NYC i have met girls in bookstores, cafes, the subway, fast food joints, meetups, the street, in lines for things, Duane reade, whatever. Not hard.
 

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Bars are everywhere. Nobody is required to drink. Many beautiful young non religious women in cities don't frequent bars. You can meet girls almost anywhere. In NYC i have met girls in bookstores, cafes, the subway, fast food joints, meetups, the street, in lines for things, Duane reade, whatever. Not hard.
Do you primarily go for young non drinking women? Plus, NYC is an outlier tbh. Plus, just because they don’t frequent bars does not mean they don’t drink and party. He clearly stated no alcohol.
 

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Case in point, my cousin had an easy major and was heavily active in fitness and the gym. Two years after working a real job, she has ballooned to overweight. This is what I mean by you have zero idea how this girl will react to stress.
 

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I get leery of girls that claim they like gin as much as I do. It happened to me once before, and they definitely are alcoholics if they like the stuff, no doubt about it...she could put it down like water.
 

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I get leery of girls that claim they like gin as much as I do. It happened to me once before, and they definitely are alcoholics if they like the stuff, no doubt about it...she could put it down like water.
I’m leery of anyone in general liking gin lmao
 
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Do you primarily go for young non drinking women? Plus, NYC is an outlier tbh. Plus, just because they don’t frequent bars does not mean they don’t drink and party. He clearly stated no alcohol.
I meant they don't drink (or drink very little) and/or hit up bars. You referred to the presence of bars which is why I mentioned it. NYC is not an outlier insofar as young females exist everywhere and are in public places.

For me personally it's not a major criterion, but if she is parties hard then probably not my speed.

I've been a primarily daygame guy like this for 10+ years. Daygame is good.
Exactly. I think gaming in bars skews people's perspectives and they think all PYTs drink heavily. Even within college, there are girls who do not party (or only do once in a while). And no they don't have to be religious, not everyone likes alcohol. When I was younger I relied way too much on bars and parties and booze.
 

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I think gaming in bars skews people's perspectives and they think all PYTs drink heavily. Even within college, there are girls who do not party (or only do once in a while). And no they don't have to be religious, not everyone likes alcohol. When I was younger I relied way too much on bars and parties and booze.
I have a similar story. In college, I relied upon off campus apartment parties with alcohol to meet women. That was more or less the precursor to bar game. After turning 21, I was doing bar game in my college city. When I went to a different city for my first post-college city, I got into nightlife venues in that city too. Between off campus and bars, I was way too focused on night game from ages 18 - late 20s. In my late 20s, I transformed from a primarily nightlife guy to a primarily daygame guy. I read Roosh's "Day Bang" soon after its 2011 publication. "Day Bang" was the first daygame resource I found that enabled me to have a plan with daygame. I had been aware of daygame as early as 2005 (around when I graduated college), because I had heard about guys picking up women in yoga classes. I didn't get into daygame until 2012 though.

I think I would have been better off in college had I been more focused on meeting women in my academic classes and extracurricular activities. I could have also supplemented those 2 with approaches on the general gym floor and possibly at fitness classes at the student gym. Even if I had done this, it would be meaningless today. Any relationships I would have formed from this different approach would have failed by now. Most relationships formed in college end within 3-5 years of graduation. I'm also being generous when I give that 3-5 year timeline.

If I had been less nightlife focused in my first post-college city, I think outcomes had the potential to be different. However, due to the passage of time, those relationships would have failed too and wouldn't be part of my present reality either.
 

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I have a similar story. In college, I relied upon off campus apartment parties with alcohol to meet women. That was more or less the precursor to bar game. After turning 21, I was doing bar game in my college city. When I went to a different city for my first post-college city, I got into nightlife venues in that city too. Between off campus and bars, I was way too focused on night game from ages 18 - late 20s. In my late 20s, I transformed from a primarily nightlife guy to a primarily daygame guy. I read Roosh's "Day Bang" soon after its 2011 publication. "Day Bang" was the first daygame resource I found that enabled me to have a plan with daygame. I had been aware of daygame as early as 2005 (around when I graduated college), because I had heard about guys picking up women in yoga classes. I didn't get into daygame until 2012 though.

I think I would have been better off in college had I been more focused on meeting women in my academic classes and extracurricular activities. I could have also supplemented those 2 with approaches on the general gym floor and possibly at fitness classes at the student gym. Even if I had done this, it would be meaningless today. Any relationships I would have formed from this different approach would have failed by now. Most relationships formed in college end within 3-5 years of graduation. I'm also being generous when I give that 3-5 year timeline.

If I had been less nightlife focused in my first post-college city, I think outcomes had the potential to be different. However, due to the passage of time, those relationships would have failed too and wouldn't be part of my present reality either.
I've often thought this too. But in fairness night game in college is super easy. I'd go to parties, chicks would approach me and within an hour I could get them home. So we gotta give ourselves a bit of a break on that, lol. I know there were also girls I tried to day game who were the same chicks out riding c0ck like that. It's easy to see how the party life takes precedent. The hard part is finding the non party girls. (I wasn't looking for an LTR though.)

If I could have done one thing different it would have been to get my own apartment and not be in the dorms or in a house with roommates. I hated having roommates. I think being a guy with his own pad would have been better for my own growth and my SMV, if you will.

Definitely after college I wish I'd done less night game right away. I think after college the expectation is it'll still be like it was so guys just keep partying. But we all live and learn.
 

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I meant they don't drink (or drink very little) and/or hit up bars. You referred to the presence of bars which is why I mentioned it. NYC is not an outlier insofar as young females exist everywhere and are in public places.

For me personally it's not a major criterion, but if she is parties hard then probably not my speed.
I get what you are saying, but he was pretty strong about zero alcohol. My ex in college didn't party every weekend or frequent bars, but she we would have wine nights and stuff. Our first date was at a hookah bar.
 

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@Millard Fillmore -- To start this post, I will recommend that you check out the amazing college sex thread if you haven't already done so.


in fairness night game in college is super easy. I'd go to parties, chicks would approach me and within an hour I could get them home. So we gotta give ourselves a bit of a break on that, lol.
I don't think off campus apartment/house party game is as easy as you make it seem. I didn't get approached by women at these parties. I had to make the approaches and escalate the interactions.

Your point has merit though. It is an easier form of Game than swiping on Tinder/Bumble/Hinge as a post college guy trying to date post college women.

I know there were also girls I tried to day game who were the same chicks out riding c0ck like that. It's easy to see how the party life takes precedent. The hard part is finding the non party girls. (I wasn't looking for an LTR though.)
College can be difficult upon LTRs, especially as you get closer to graduation and have to make some serious employment decisions. Based on our ages, you and I both attended college in the 2000s, as college tuition had already gotten expensive. The cost of tuition forces a student to put his/her career ambitions ahead of romance. That has a way of ruining extended relationships. I can see why you wouldn't focus on LTRs at that point in life.

It's possible to meet women in your classes (one form of day game) or extracurriculars (another form of day game) that are also penis carousel riders and party life participants.

I don't recall anyone I knew forming long term relationships from random approaches in the student union or randomly on campus walking between classes/activities.

If I could have done one thing different it would have been to get my own apartment and not be in the dorms or in a house with roommates. I hated having roommates. I think being a guy with his own pad would have been better for my own growth and my SMV, if you will.
The dorms are difficult. You don't have your own private space. At least with an off campus apartment or off campus rental house, you'll have your own bedroom. The downside is that male roommates are likely to be guys with blue pill ideologies.
 

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If she is drinking every day that's a problem. Heck it's a potential problem for men that drink everyday, especially if it is more than two.

Nothing screws up your body more than alcohol. Seriously if you can get by without it you should. I drink occasionally go weeks without a drink. I was at a party last night and didn't touch a drop. In my youth I was a heavy drinker... I never let it effect my life that much, but when I turned 38 I just stopped for about 10 years because I was concerned about my health. Now I'll have a couple of drinks once or twice a week, and if I have more than 2 I feel like cr@p the next day.

The older you get the less you can can drink, alcohol hurts women a lot more than men, it's biology and a woman really needs to be careful with her consumption.

I am dating a woman now who drinks too much IMO, I really don't care... her body... her life, but there is no way I would ever try to make a relationship work with her. She'll have to come to the same conclusion I did years ago that a lifestyle change is what she needs to embrace... but the sad truth is the longer she puts that off the worst off her long term health will be.

My sister is an alcoholic and she abused her body with booze until the last couple of years when she finally quit (she is 60 now) and she is a mess... all kinds of health problems and she looks a mess, she waited too long to pull back from that.
 

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Chicks with "experience" running the streets were usually smothered sheltered women prior. Are you going to keep this girl locked in your house forever. My case and point is to LTR a girl that was mature enough not to surrender to the streets and stress related vices such as weight gain, bi-polarism, and etc. You don't know how this girl is going to react to the real world in the coming years.
I agree with @EyeBRollin on this one. Someone just mentioned having your own crib. I've noticed one thing when dating younger (9+) years women. When they live at home (""shelterd"") they'll look completely different at the phrase" me casa su casa". They'll happily hang out at your house. Even introducing you to their family and inviting you to their home is worth something.

Soon as they get their own house and lose this " shelter" they'll become different persons. I've seen this transition several times. Lets just say when your gf moves out of her parents home to get her own house, is a good time to break up (before you helped her with everything ).

Had a 1st date with that 23 y.o. chick from OLD...... she drank 1/2 litre of whine while i had 1/8th, water and a coffee (have been driving).
I thought okay, maybe she was just nervous and overdid it by accident.

Had a 2nd date with that chick, she allmost drank a 1 litre on that date over a couple of hours (went for lunch) and started to get loud, using heavy words about colleagues, how she once slammed an ashtray into a guys mouth and stuff to a lvl that made me feel awkward.

I knew this was a red flag before i even knew about "red flags".

The strangest thing was, she had like NO self reflection. She kept telling me that she liked older guys (i was 35 and she had a LTR with a 45y.o. before) because they are more mature, more cultivated and dont use foul language etc.

She was DTF, but i knew this one was going to be trouble and didnt engage.
Yup, you've just described 75% of my OLD dating story. Something mayor that just makes you understand right there and then that she is NOT what you need.... Makes you understand why sometimes they say the best way to seduce a woman (or us) is by shutting tfu.

Especially the part where she tells about the ash tray. Lots of women are savages nowadays haha.
 
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