EyeBRollin
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Why do I need to know this if she doesn’t drink?You don't know how this girl is going to react to alcohol lol.
Why do I need to know this if she doesn’t drink?You don't know how this girl is going to react to alcohol lol.
Where are you meeting these women? What young hot woman doesn't drink unless it's for religious reasons or being overly sheltered at home. This seems like an anomaly.Why do I need to know this if she doesn’t drink?
The point is, you are framing this as having a sheltered woman is a bad thing. It is not. Men should want a sheltered woman for LTR. Chicks with “experience,” have experience running the streets.Where are you meeting these women? What young hot woman doesn't drink unless it's for religious reasons or being overly sheltered at home. This seems like an anomaly.
Chicks with "experience" running the streets were usually smothered sheltered women prior. Are you going to keep this girl locked in your house forever. My case and point is to LTR a girl that was mature enough not to surrender to the streets and stress related vices such as weight gain, bi-polarism, and etc. You don't know how this girl is going to react to the real world in the coming years.The point is, you are framing this as having a sheltered woman is a bad thing. It is not. Men should want a sheltered woman for LTR. Chicks with “experience,” have experience running the streets.
A lot of them don't. Or if they do it's very seldom. It's not that rare. But if you hang out in bars they'll be harder to find, ha.Where are you meeting these women? What young hot woman doesn't drink unless it's for religious reasons or being overly sheltered at home. This seems like an anomaly.
No one can see the future. She's probably better off w/him if he can lead. Any betrayal and she's out. So what.You don't know how this girl is going to react to the real world in the coming years.
You are going to find most hot young women in college or areas with a lot of bars like Miami and city centers. He isn't hitting on the finest women at local religious institutions, so I am deeply curious where he is finding them.A lot of them don't. Or if they do it's very seldom. It's not that rare. But if you hang out in bars they'll be harder to find, ha.
Sounds like a waste of time to me lol.No one can see the future. She's probably better off w/him if he can lead. Any betrayal and she's out. So what.
Bars are everywhere. Nobody is required to drink. Many beautiful young non religious women in cities don't frequent bars. You can meet girls almost anywhere. In NYC i have met girls in bookstores, cafes, the subway, fast food joints, meetups, the street, in lines for things, Duane reade, whatever. Not hard.You are going to find most hot young women in college or areas with a lot of bars like Miami and city centers. He isn't hitting on the finest women at local religious institutions, so I am deeply curious where he is finding them.
Sounds like a waste of time to me lol.
Do you primarily go for young non drinking women? Plus, NYC is an outlier tbh. Plus, just because they don’t frequent bars does not mean they don’t drink and party. He clearly stated no alcohol.Bars are everywhere. Nobody is required to drink. Many beautiful young non religious women in cities don't frequent bars. You can meet girls almost anywhere. In NYC i have met girls in bookstores, cafes, the subway, fast food joints, meetups, the street, in lines for things, Duane reade, whatever. Not hard.
I've been a primarily daygame guy like this for 10+ years. Daygame is good.You can meet girls almost anywhere. In NYC i have met girls in bookstores, cafes, the subway, fast food joints, meetups, the street, in lines for things
I’m leery of anyone in general liking gin lmaoI get leery of girls that claim they like gin as much as I do. It happened to me once before, and they definitely are alcoholics if they like the stuff, no doubt about it...she could put it down like water.
bish! It's medicinalI’m leery of anyone in general liking gin lmao
I meant they don't drink (or drink very little) and/or hit up bars. You referred to the presence of bars which is why I mentioned it. NYC is not an outlier insofar as young females exist everywhere and are in public places.Do you primarily go for young non drinking women? Plus, NYC is an outlier tbh. Plus, just because they don’t frequent bars does not mean they don’t drink and party. He clearly stated no alcohol.
Exactly. I think gaming in bars skews people's perspectives and they think all PYTs drink heavily. Even within college, there are girls who do not party (or only do once in a while). And no they don't have to be religious, not everyone likes alcohol. When I was younger I relied way too much on bars and parties and booze.I've been a primarily daygame guy like this for 10+ years. Daygame is good.
I have a similar story. In college, I relied upon off campus apartment parties with alcohol to meet women. That was more or less the precursor to bar game. After turning 21, I was doing bar game in my college city. When I went to a different city for my first post-college city, I got into nightlife venues in that city too. Between off campus and bars, I was way too focused on night game from ages 18 - late 20s. In my late 20s, I transformed from a primarily nightlife guy to a primarily daygame guy. I read Roosh's "Day Bang" soon after its 2011 publication. "Day Bang" was the first daygame resource I found that enabled me to have a plan with daygame. I had been aware of daygame as early as 2005 (around when I graduated college), because I had heard about guys picking up women in yoga classes. I didn't get into daygame until 2012 though.I think gaming in bars skews people's perspectives and they think all PYTs drink heavily. Even within college, there are girls who do not party (or only do once in a while). And no they don't have to be religious, not everyone likes alcohol. When I was younger I relied way too much on bars and parties and booze.
I've often thought this too. But in fairness night game in college is super easy. I'd go to parties, chicks would approach me and within an hour I could get them home. So we gotta give ourselves a bit of a break on that, lol. I know there were also girls I tried to day game who were the same chicks out riding c0ck like that. It's easy to see how the party life takes precedent. The hard part is finding the non party girls. (I wasn't looking for an LTR though.)I have a similar story. In college, I relied upon off campus apartment parties with alcohol to meet women. That was more or less the precursor to bar game. After turning 21, I was doing bar game in my college city. When I went to a different city for my first post-college city, I got into nightlife venues in that city too. Between off campus and bars, I was way too focused on night game from ages 18 - late 20s. In my late 20s, I transformed from a primarily nightlife guy to a primarily daygame guy. I read Roosh's "Day Bang" soon after its 2011 publication. "Day Bang" was the first daygame resource I found that enabled me to have a plan with daygame. I had been aware of daygame as early as 2005 (around when I graduated college), because I had heard about guys picking up women in yoga classes. I didn't get into daygame until 2012 though.
I think I would have been better off in college had I been more focused on meeting women in my academic classes and extracurricular activities. I could have also supplemented those 2 with approaches on the general gym floor and possibly at fitness classes at the student gym. Even if I had done this, it would be meaningless today. Any relationships I would have formed from this different approach would have failed by now. Most relationships formed in college end within 3-5 years of graduation. I'm also being generous when I give that 3-5 year timeline.
If I had been less nightlife focused in my first post-college city, I think outcomes had the potential to be different. However, due to the passage of time, those relationships would have failed too and wouldn't be part of my present reality either.
I get what you are saying, but he was pretty strong about zero alcohol. My ex in college didn't party every weekend or frequent bars, but she we would have wine nights and stuff. Our first date was at a hookah bar.I meant they don't drink (or drink very little) and/or hit up bars. You referred to the presence of bars which is why I mentioned it. NYC is not an outlier insofar as young females exist everywhere and are in public places.
For me personally it's not a major criterion, but if she is parties hard then probably not my speed.
I don't think off campus apartment/house party game is as easy as you make it seem. I didn't get approached by women at these parties. I had to make the approaches and escalate the interactions.in fairness night game in college is super easy. I'd go to parties, chicks would approach me and within an hour I could get them home. So we gotta give ourselves a bit of a break on that, lol.
College can be difficult upon LTRs, especially as you get closer to graduation and have to make some serious employment decisions. Based on our ages, you and I both attended college in the 2000s, as college tuition had already gotten expensive. The cost of tuition forces a student to put his/her career ambitions ahead of romance. That has a way of ruining extended relationships. I can see why you wouldn't focus on LTRs at that point in life.I know there were also girls I tried to day game who were the same chicks out riding c0ck like that. It's easy to see how the party life takes precedent. The hard part is finding the non party girls. (I wasn't looking for an LTR though.)
The dorms are difficult. You don't have your own private space. At least with an off campus apartment or off campus rental house, you'll have your own bedroom. The downside is that male roommates are likely to be guys with blue pill ideologies.If I could have done one thing different it would have been to get my own apartment and not be in the dorms or in a house with roommates. I hated having roommates. I think being a guy with his own pad would have been better for my own growth and my SMV, if you will.
I agree with @EyeBRollin on this one. Someone just mentioned having your own crib. I've noticed one thing when dating younger (9+) years women. When they live at home (""shelterd"") they'll look completely different at the phrase" me casa su casa". They'll happily hang out at your house. Even introducing you to their family and inviting you to their home is worth something.Chicks with "experience" running the streets were usually smothered sheltered women prior. Are you going to keep this girl locked in your house forever. My case and point is to LTR a girl that was mature enough not to surrender to the streets and stress related vices such as weight gain, bi-polarism, and etc. You don't know how this girl is going to react to the real world in the coming years.
Yup, you've just described 75% of my OLD dating story. Something mayor that just makes you understand right there and then that she is NOT what you need.... Makes you understand why sometimes they say the best way to seduce a woman (or us) is by shutting tfu.Had a 1st date with that 23 y.o. chick from OLD...... she drank 1/2 litre of whine while i had 1/8th, water and a coffee (have been driving).
I thought okay, maybe she was just nervous and overdid it by accident.
Had a 2nd date with that chick, she allmost drank a 1 litre on that date over a couple of hours (went for lunch) and started to get loud, using heavy words about colleagues, how she once slammed an ashtray into a guys mouth and stuff to a lvl that made me feel awkward.
I knew this was a red flag before i even knew about "red flags".
The strangest thing was, she had like NO self reflection. She kept telling me that she liked older guys (i was 35 and she had a LTR with a 45y.o. before) because they are more mature, more cultivated and dont use foul language etc.
She was DTF, but i knew this one was going to be trouble and didnt engage.