Girl mad because I asked her to shave

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haha

more histrionic shaming from Zarky the faggot

15 years and you still hate men

you obviously took the command to shave quite *personally*

well save up and get the sex change operation then...you are obviously a frustrated lesbian...so be one.
 

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i feel you made a legit request for her to shave- don't see anything wrong with that. her being single and in her 30's (and probably never married, no kids) makes it clear why she reacted the way she did. this may sound cliche but it's true-she is a power-hungry career-woman type.

you did seem too apologetic and eager to please her after she expressed anger. like most of the posters said, i feel she needs to be finally put in her place.

i recommend no contact until she contacts you.
 

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on another note, it's discouraging to see how easily insults are flung on this site
 

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hit a nerve?

Zarky said:
And don't listen to the incel manosphere omegas. They're more likely to shoot up a women's gym in beta-rage than actually get laid in the next decade.
Uh oh and here comes the textbook shaming . lol at snarkys attempt to distance herself from something she's been a part of for years. And lets not forget you plugging your sh!tty blog here there and everywhere throughout the *GASP* "manosphere" you nimrod.

Your just mad you got caught out giving chick advice....again.
 

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I've ventured MANY TIMES into the 30+ crowd of chicks as I am now 44 (waiting 6+ dates to bang is laughable). That said, every woman in her 30s out of respect for you would shave her box without question. You shouldn't even be asking...it should be done because she's not a woolly mammoth flea bag from a 1975 porn set.

In your chat you should have already dropped the hint you prefer hairless as it is more appetizing...she would have taken the hint...if not...she ain't into you....
 

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Listen up guys: To avoid chick like this you should always apply "The 3 Strikes Rule" when dating. If the chick hasn't put out after the third date then you should drop her!! Every date after that is a waste of your time and your chances of getting laid will not increase!!

Remember that your goal in dating is to get laid by as many chicks as possible, while spending the least amount of time, effort, and money on them.

Stop wasting your time with chicks that will never put out!!

If you get more excuses on the second and third dates...it is safe to say that you won't be getting any from her!! Because if her plan was to have sex with you...it would already happen by then!!

Women will decide if they will have sex with you after they first meet you. No amount of extra dates will change her mind if that is not part of her game plan. That is why all these extra dates are a waste!! She isn't planning on ever having sex with you!!

That is why the 3 Strikes Rule should be applied!!


bobbytomorow said:
Ok so I have been seeing this girl for a couple of weeks, maybe half a dozen dates.

why the hell are you going on 6 dates with her in two weeks? You should never do that!! It won't help your odds of getting laid just as you have found out!! I assume that you paid for all these dates?

bobbytomorow said:
No sex yet, I've fingered her and have come very close but she always shuts it down JUST before I think I'm getting in.
This is why you should apply the 3 Strikes Rule with women like this to avoid time wasters and flakes. You had 6 dates with her. How many do you think you needed to get laid? More dates with her will not increase you odds of getting laid!! Skip the flakes and fvck the dates!!

A chick will decide after she firsts meets you if she will have sex with you or not. That is why 3 dates is the perfect number to determine that. Anymore will not help your odds!!

She shut it down because having sex with you was not part of her game plan. More dates will not help you if that is not her plan. So that is why you have a 3 Strikes Rule!!


bobbytomorow said:
The last shutdown was because she hadn't shaved and when I put my hand down there I confirmed that...It was little longer than stubble maybe a month of growth.
A lame excuse....if she wanted you to bang her that would not be a problem. I've banged chicks who didn't shave and they didn't care at all. They made a comment about it like "I didn't shave for a few days" "I'm like a porcupine" but that didn't stop them from wanting sex. she gave you an excuse!!

I worked with a chick who did the same thing. She strung guys along for weeks and months. She would let them finger her a little bit....those guys thought they were getting somewhere with her....then when they tried to have sex, she made some excuse to why she couldn't....she never had any plans of having sex with them....she just wanted free meals out of them so she drug it out as long as she could....one dude she played for 3 months until he finally got fed up....meanwhile she was banging a dude that worked in the other office and he never had to pay a cent on a date with her!!

bobbytomorow said:
Anyways, todays texts:

Girl: Want to meet tonight?
Me: Sure
Girl: I have yoga after work. I will give you a call after I get in and shower
Me: Sounds good...when you shower I want you to shave
Girl: lol I was going to anyway
**couple hours go by**
Girl:Ok done yoga and home now....but that shaving comment really turned me off
Me:Really? I only mentioned it becuase last time you seemed bothered by it....it certainly doesn't bother me
Girl:It doesn't bother me to simply be not shaved
Me: So what is the issue here, you feel as though I crossed boundaries of yours??

You were being direct with her...nothing wrong with that....then you wimped out after she turned it on you a couple hours later. If this chick was really into you the comment would not bother her...in fact she would show up bald and smooth just to please you!! You got no sex from her prior....then she used the comment as an excuse after you were being direct. She did not want to have sex with you....so that is why she used an excuse to make you look bad!! If you said nothing to her...she would happily let you spend your money on her for another date...without getting sex. You just screened out a flake without even knowing it!!

bobbytomorow said:
Now nothing, she hasn't responded...I don't want to apologise but should I?
of course she won't respond...She is not interested in you for sex!! if she was...you would already be banging her by now!! What the hell are you going to apologize for? For being direct? For screening out a flake? she doesn't want you for sex....only for you to pay her dates...move on!!

bobbytomorow said:
a few minutes ago, after not hearing from her when we are supposed to be hooking up tonight;

Me: It looks like you've made other plans, have a good night I'll catch you some other time :)
Girl: I'm just kinda grossed out. I don't know. You telling me to shave. The assumption you're just going to get in there. It's not where I'm at and I'm making ****ing cupcakes. Don't pull that crap on me. I'm too old for it. Good night.
There was no need for you to send that reply. You let her confirm that she has no sexual interest in you!!

grossed out? why would she be grossed out if she was interested in hooking up with you? wouldn't she want to be well groomed for the occasion? If she had plans of having sex with you.....this would not bother her at all because she would want to make it pleasing for you!!

She says "It's not where I'm at" meaning she has NO plans of having sex with you!!

bobbytomorow said:
As lame as it sounds I feel like going there with flowers and apologizing but I also know that may be a big mistake. Just seems lame to let this one slip by simply because I can't man up and say I was wrong...No?
what the hell are you going to do that for? do you think that will make her want to bang you? Look...you had 6 dates with her...you got nothing except a little fingering....then when you were direct about having sex....she showed you she had no plans to have sex with you!! There is no need to apologize!! She isn't interested in you!!! Move on!!

You won't be having sex with her because she decided after she first met you....that was not her game plan....forget about her and move on!!

Zarky said:
You made a really as*hole comment. I cringed when I read that. Don't know what else to tell you, you probably had that girl in the bag, though that's pure speculation.
"had that girl in the bag" you say? He never had her in the bag because she had no plans of having sex with him. 6 dates...he got nothing!! Then he made a direct comment.....she used that as an excuse to turn it on him!! She was out of the bag all the time!! She had no plans of having sex with him.

Zarky said:
I'd come out and say something like:

"Hey, I apologize for the shaving comment. That was a real d*ck thing to say. I didn't expect anything from you but just remember how hot we got together last time... But if you don't want to hang out again, I understand." *
Apologize? Why the hell should he apologize for being direct with this chick? she had zero interest in having sex with him....she used this as an excuse!! and you want him to apologize? This is as beta as it gets. Wimping back to a chick after she turns him down several times for sex!! C'mon man....get with it!!
 

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Mauser96 said:
I agree. It's is quite sickening actually.
It used to bother me, since any shmuck can call people names from the safety of his computer. I'm sure if they were face to face they wouldn't have the guts to do it. That's not even a question in my mind.

And before, the hypocrisy of people saying that I'm using "shaming language" and then calling me a bunch of names made me irritated.

However, now I don't mind because those peoples' posts make even my least impressive stuff look like Shakespeare. They are perfect foils for me and they prove my points better than even I can.

The verdict is in: manosphere people are losers. They radiate it whenever they post and I'm sure they radiate it in real life as well. But whereas it bothered me before because I don't like losers, now I encourage them to post their little hate-filled name-calling flames because the more they do the less the rest of the world takes them seriously. And if there's anyone the world should not take seriously, it's a manosphere internet troll.
 

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bobbytomorow said:
I honestly really like this girl, we get a long great, she is my age for once, she has a great personality and she is very attractive
No, she doesn't. Judging by her reaction, she's a b!tch (and really, any attractive single woman in her mid-30s is going to be a b!tch). She's pretending to be "grossed out" by your comment because she wasn't planning on giving it up anyway...and you gave her a perfect excuse.
 

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Zarky said:
Wow the men's rights betas & omegas are out en masse in this thread. It's clearly beneath any man to ever admit he was a douche ;
Coming from a guy who specializes in banging middle-aged POF 4's and 5's, that's a little rich. There is nothing more beta/omega than banging older, unattractive women. It's like eating leftovers from a garbage bin.
 

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They're actually 5s and 6s :p

At least I'm honest about it, not telling the world I'm banging "8s" who are actually 6s. Or not getting laid at all like 95% of the guys here.
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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If you didn't get sex by the 4th date, you should have moved on.

She's not that into you.

Even girls that don't put out on the first (a good thing in my book) will by the 3rd or 4th if they
are turned on by you.
 

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Zarky said:
They're actually 5s and 6s :p

At least I'm honest about it, not telling the world I'm banging "8s" who are actually 6s. Or not getting laid at all like 95% of the guys here.
Doesn't change the fact that it's beta behavior.
 

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Bokanovsky said:
Doesn't change the fact that it's beta behavior.
Perhaps, I've never called myself an alpha. But if I'm a beta, then people who call others childish names in the glow of their computer screens behind locked doors, when they would never have the bravery to do so face to face, are absolute omegas and should feel shame for that. Or at least get intense psychological help.

And speaking of which, how many new girls have you f*cked in 2013, beta? I'm at 7. That's new girls. If you count those plus my two girlfriends (one of whom is now an ex), that number goes to 9.

Can anybody beat that here? I'd put big money on "no." And yeah, while they may be 5s and 6s, my nine 5s beat your zero 10s any day. Plus every single one of mine put out on the first date, unlike most of the shmucks here who buy dinners, text endlessly, etc.

And if you think you're "too good" to f*ck average girls, you better understand that you're not good enough to f*ck the above-average ones, or else you wouldn't be sitting at home punching the munchkin to women you can only dream of screwing ;)
 

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Can't we all just get along?

I do agree with Zarky and another poster about one thing...the amount of sniping and general hostility shown by many on here towards other posters is getting disturbing. This is a place where we are all supposed to come and be able to discuss how to better ourselves as men, but lately it just seems like one big cawk fight.

I mean I actually have 3-4 guys that follow me around and basically whatever I post, they chime in and call me a white knight. I see it towards lots of other posters as well.

Not good guys.
 

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cordoncordon said:
.the amount of sniping and general hostility shown by many on here towards other posters is getting disturbing.
The issue is they just can't help it. Many guys here, and most if not all manosphere and MRA guys, have crippling psychological disorders.

I used to argue with them, now I just call 'em losers because that's what they are and they know it. You can't engage them in logical discourse because they are unable to process it. They're not here to logically argue their positions, they're here to randomly strike out in fear and anger.

So I just slap 'em back like the needle-d*cked b*tches they are. It's all they understand, they'll never change, and dealing with them logically is a waste of time. At one point I hoped for more, but now I don't.

That, and the fact that the mods here are worthless. I can't tell you how many content-free harassment posts I've flagged over the years. Ones with literally no content other than an insult. Not one has ever been removed. Not one.
 

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There's good reason you're only managing to bang 40 year old HB5s and HB6s judging from your advice.
 

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Zarky said:
It used to bother me, since any shmuck can call people names from the safety of his computer. I'm sure if they were face to face they wouldn't have the guts to do it. That's not even a question in my mind.
The Queen of snark now plays the victim..really?

Face to face you reckon, ok what do we know about your online "male" persona. So far you've admitted you:

1. Hate men.
2. Have no male friends.
3. Never gamed a woman in real life, only POF chicks.
4. Hate the manosphere.
5. Oh and your apparently homeless.

I'd give you a run, only thing I'd be worried about is actually touching you you odd self hating hobo-hermaphrodite.
 

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This was probably the wrong way to do it.

Eat her out, make her feel good, then mention how much better it would be for you and her if she shaved down there. I don't think she would put much resistance about shaving if you went about it that way rather then just ordering her to shave.

You have to use a little psychology.
 

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f283000 said:
This was probably the wrong way to do it.

Eat her out, make her feel good, then mention how much better it would be for you and her if she shaved down there. I don't think she would put much resistance about shaving if you went about it that way rather then just ordering her to shave.

You have to use a little psychology.
Eat her out, with a full bush? :p
 

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Men frequently err by talking too much. They often monopolize conversations, droning on and on about topics that bore women to tears. They think they're impressing the women when, in reality, they're depressing the women.

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