Girl Im talking to is Filipina, 30, Virgin and never been in a relationship.

[dueler-x]

So Im here in The Philippines right now on vacation and Ive been getting plenty of matches on my Tinder. This never would have happened if I were back in the states.

So Ive been talking to this girl since March. I kept it slow. She’s Filipino like me, 30, Virgin and never been in a relationship.

Wow….all I can say is please don’t let me screw this up. She’s slim and cute and Im very attracted to her physically.


I don’t plan on taking away her virginity soon and want to have a traditional courtship with her.


Again, this never would have happened if I were in the states. It’s very hot each day in The Philippines right now and I often stay in one room where there’s air conditioning, unless I go out.


She’s definitely a great prospect and I plan on evaluating my options or spinning plates or whatever.

How are you so sure she is not lying?

 

[sangheilios]

This can happen anywhere even with your neighbor. The passport movement is just expanding your dating options abroad, so necessary with the stupid hoeflation men like in the U.S. have to endure.

The idea I was presenting is that if you are going overseas to find a woman you are already seen as a green card or one way ticket to a better life. Right from the start you are creating the foundations of the relationship around wealth, lifestyle, etc. I think this is a huge mistake but I totally understand why men do it.

 

[corrector]

That sums up a defeated man's POV.
Feel that a girlfriend has to teach you about sex in this day and age when information is so easily accessible?
Think it's a liability that you haven't had a girlfriend by 30yrs old? First off, unless you wear a sign that says it, she won't know it before you develop some rapport with her. And when the subject comes up, you say that you didn't meet the right girl for a relationship. BAM! Instead of using an apologetic tone and a sheepish face to 'excuse' their situation, as most guys would do, you put yourself on the pedestal and become a challenge for her. Instead of you looking up at her with puppy eyes, hoping to take mercy and be your first girlfriend, she'll look at you wondering if she has what it takes to become your first girlfriend.

That is what people talk about on here if you look at other threads thought. I mean what concept is he presenting do you really disagree with? He mentioned social proof, pre-selection, all the concepts that when other people are talking about. If they look at his social media page, or his overall demeanour then they can tell that he's not a guy that's getting women. You don't need a sign that says things suck in the love department, it because women can just smell these things a mile away like a shark can smell blood. Just like when someone's in a relationship and they look happy, people pick up on that and ask if they met someone.

In fact, there is this one time I took out a lady several places on dates and took time off work. I never told anyone I dated anyone and kept quiet about my life. Someone look at me and asked me if I went out with a girl. The way I looked and demeanor somehow communicated that. This was back in 2009. It's shocking how people can pick up things about people without a word being said.

 

[corrector]

Yep this is definitely a double standard. If a guy is 30 and has never been in a relationship and has no dating experience (the case with me and several other men these days) women see that as a huge red flag and run away from him. High value for a woman to be in this situation, extremely low value for a man to be in the exact same situation.

You don't know if that is true in the Philippeans though. If you keep within the parameters of this thread he talking about a woman in the Philippeans. Do you really think a lady in the Philippeans is going to care about that? Lets keep this about the Phlippeans or geomaxxing in general.

You should at least keep the geomaxxing as a last resort fantasy (ie if I take a plane and travel to another country than that would solve all of my love life problems because my SMV will be so high that something like that would not even matter there).

In the past month I looked at videos in Thialand and saw a bunch of women parading themselves infront of various shops, etc... I can tell you if someone like you walked down that strip in Pattaya, Thialand for example, the last thing you would be thinking about is how inexperienced you are. It's like a parallel inverted dimension to you. You should sink $ 2k on a plane ticket, book a hotel for a few weeks, head over to Thialand/Philippeans and forget that you are a 30 year old inexperienced guy, lol! It sounds like the only thing expensive about such a trip would be the plane ticket. Anyway, before going into that "territory", I'm going to stop.

The OP at least has family in the Philippeans so it's natural for him to go there. You likely have to end up with a down-to-earth simple girl from one of those places.

 

[needimprovement250]

Feel that a girlfriend has to teach you about sex in this day and age when information is so easily accessible?

No I don’t feel that way, but that’s what comes to mind for most women when they hear a guy has no experience.

Think it's a liability that you haven't had a girlfriend by 30yrs old? First off, unless you wear a sign that says it, she won't know it before you develop some rapport with her.

Usually women who have a decent amount of experience (which is the overwhelming majority by my age group) she can tell when a guy doesn’t have any just by his demeanor.

And when the subject comes up, you say that you didn't meet the right girl for a relationship. BAM!

That only works up until your mid 20’s. Saying that in your 30’s does raise a red flag since how can a guy have gone through his teens and 20’s and not found even ONE girl who’s relationship material? That’s what women think when a 30 year old guy says it, not to mention that it leads them to assume he must have unrealistic standards that absolutely nobody meets.

 

[needimprovement250]

You don't know if that is true in the Philippeans though. If you keep within the parameters of this thread he talking about a woman in the Philippeans. Do you really think a lady in the Philippeans is going to care about that? Lets keep this about the Phlippeans or geomaxxing in general.

You should at least keep the geomaxxing as a last resort fantasy (ie if I take a plane and travel to another country than that would solve all of my love life problems because my SMV will be so high that something like that would not even matter there).

In the past month I looked at videos in Thialand and saw a bunch of women parading themselves infront of various shops, etc... I can tell you if someone like you walked down that strip in Pattaya, Thialand for example, the last thing you would be thinking about is how inexperienced you are. It's like a parallel inverted dimension to you. You should sink $ 2k on a plane ticket, book a hotel for a few weeks, head over to Thialand/Philippeans and forget that you are a 30 year old inexperienced guy, lol! It sounds like the only thing expensive about such a trip would be the plane ticket. Anyway, before going into that "territory", I'm going to stop.

The OP at least has family in the Philippeans so it's natural for him to go there. You likely have to end up with a down-to-earth simple girl from one of those places.

Nah I’m not going overseas or doing the passports bros thing. I’m only interested in women here in the US, and I wouldn’t go overseas no matter how low my chances might be here.

 

[pipeman84]

No I don’t feel that way, but that’s what comes to mind for most women when they hear a guy has no experience.

Usually women who have a decent amount of experience (which is the overwhelming majority by my age group) she can tell when a guy doesn’t have any just by his demeanor.

That only works up until your mid 20’s. Saying that in your 30’s does raise a red flag since how can a guy have gone through his teens and 20’s and not found even ONE girl who’s relationship material? That’s what women think when a 30 year old guy says it, not to mention that it leads them to assume he must have unrealistic standards that absolutely nobody meets.

As long as you're in approval seeking mode, women will notice that and either reject you or take advantage of you. So the real issue is not the lack of dating/girlfriends but your inner mindset and how you see yourself. You can have money and experience with plenty women and still be disrespected on live tv by a bimbo half your age, as is the case with Mike Sartain.

Why are you putting on a pedestal damaged goods or, in your words, women who have a decent amount of experience?
Instead of worrying that she will think you have unrealistic standards, you be the one qualifying her: how come she's +25yrs old and single? That situation very rarely speaks good for a woman.

 

[corrector]

Nah I’m not going overseas or doing the passports bros thing. I’m only interested in women here in the US, and I wouldn’t go overseas no matter how low my chances might be here.

Then you should not complain on this tyoe of thread. This is a thread about a Philippean women not a US women anyway. I dont have an opinion about US women as the US is a big place and you could always relocate to another part of the country or town if things are not working out for it where you are. Its not realistic say US girls have a collective standard. You are just not meeting enough girls where you are at.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

As a side note: “Philippean” is not a recognized word in English. Someone from the Philippines is called a "Filipino." For a female, the term "Filipina" is also commonly used.

 

[corrector]

As a side note: “Philippean” is not a recognized word in English. Someone from the Philippines is called a "Filipino." For a female, the term "Filipina" is also commonly used.

Ok, noted.

 

[needimprovement250]

Why are you putting on a pedestal damaged goods or, in your words, women who have a decent amount of experience?
Instead of worrying that she will think you have unrealistic standards, you be the one qualifying her: how come she's +25yrs old and single? That situation very rarely speaks good for a woman.

I’m just being honest about what my reality is. Those women are going to make up a majority of my dating pool most likely. At 30, you really can’t date women in their early 20’s as easily, unless you have a good income and social status, which I have neither. And yeah, it does seem like most of the best women are already taken by 25+ and single men over 30 find themselves rummaging through damaged goods women to try and hopefully find a good one who just slipped through the cracks somehow. There’s a reason why dating in your 30’s has been called “thrift shopping for human beings.” In addition to the fact that most women in a 30 year old’s dating pool have settling down in mind, the dating for fun and exploration phase is over and they won’t take a guy who’s never dated seriously and guys like me don’t want to jump into something that serious right at the start anyway.

 

[needimprovement250]

Then you should not complain on this tyoe of thread. This is a thread about a Philippean women not a US women anyway. I dont have an opinion about US women as the US is a big place and you could always relocate to another part of the country or town if things are not working out for it where you are. Its not realistic say US girls have a collective standard. You are just not meeting enough girls where you are at.

Sorry I didn’t mean for this to happen. I just made one remark and it snowballed into this. I don’t want my venting to take over this whole thread since it is completely different than what OP made it about. It is true that I’m not meeting enough girls, I haven’t met any at all in the past 6 years. I live in a densely populated area with over 10 million people too, so that frustrates me.

 

[Clockwerk50]

Sorry I didn’t mean for this to happen. I just made one remark and it snowballed into this. I don’t want my venting to take over this whole thread since it is completely different than what OP made it about. It is true that I’m not meeting enough girls, I haven’t met any at all in the past 6 years. I live in a densely populated area with over 10 million people too, so that frustrates me.

Sorry I didn’t mean for this to happen. I just made one remark and it snowballed into this. I don’t want my venting to take over this whole thread since it is completely different than what OP made it about. It is true that I’m not meeting enough girls, I haven’t met any at all in the past 6 years. I live in a densely populated area with over 10 million people too, so that frustrates me.

Sorry I didn’t mean for this to happen. I just made one remark and it snowballed into this. I don’t want my venting to take over this whole thread since it is completely different than what OP made it about. It is true that I’m not meeting enough girls, I haven’t met any at all in the past 6 years. I live in a densely populated area with over 10 million people too, so that frustrates me.

Sorry I didn’t mean for this to happen. I just made one remark and it snowballed into this. I don’t want my venting to take over this whole thread since it is completely different than what OP made it about. It is true that I’m not meeting enough girls, I haven’t met any at all in the past 6 years. I live in a densely populated area with over 10 million people too, so that frustrates me.

I thought you resolved this problem in the last thread you made…

 

[corrector]

Sorry I didn’t mean for this to happen. I just made one remark and it snowballed into this. I don’t want my venting to take over this whole thread since it is completely different than what OP made it about. It is true that I’m not meeting enough girls, I haven’t met any at all in the past 6 years. I live in a densely populated area with over 10 million people too, so that frustrates me.

You are doordash though. None of your clients are women? You are hsving interactions with women though?

 

[needimprovement250]

I thought you resolved this problem in the last thread you made…

It’s never truly resolved unfortunately

 

[needimprovement250]

You are doordash though. None of your clients are women? You are hsving interactions with women though?

Almost everyone marks the delivery as leave at my door, so I don’t even see anybody a lot of times.

 

[SW15]

This is a huge reason why I'm not at all a fan of the whole "passport bro" movement. I totally understand the thoughts of finding women from 3rd countries that are more traditional and feminine, at least compared to what you'll typically find in the west. However, I feel like these guys are going out about it the wrong way and basically just setting themselves up to get involved with a gold digger or possibly even something much worse.

What I was getting at is I understand why these passport bros might have these thoughts of finding a better-quality woman in 3rd world countries but I think it's mostly a terrible idea and just a way to set yourself up for disaster.

I've rarely ever discussed the "Passport Bro" movement on this forum. I haven't done it simply because it's never been close to a reality for me. I also don't think a lot of United States men have the ability to uproot their lives in the USA and go to Eastern Europe, Latin America, or Asia to meet women. Most USA resident men need to stay in the USA for working reasons. It's also super difficult to get foreign work authorization if you need to depend upon traditional employment. Most men are dependent on traditional employment.

I agree with the idea that doing the "Passport Bro" thing can go wrong.

Yep this is definitely a double standard. If a guy is 30 and has never been in a relationship and has no dating experience (the case with me and several other men these days) women see that as a huge red flag and run away from him. High value for a woman to be in this situation, extremely low value for a man to be in the exact same situation.

It would be unusual for a woman to reach 30 and have absolutely no relationship experience and be a virgin. I would wonder what she's been doing for the prior 12-15 years. In the USA, a woman like that would have to be some sort of hermit and that's not mainstream among USA women. USA women tend to be into social media and socializing with other females. Spending time with other females between ages 15-30 means a woman is likely to interact with men in some way.

In recent times (since the mid to late 2000s), a woman hasn't even needed to have female friends in order to interact with men. Since then, all she's needed to do is have some combination of a dating website profile (pre-dating app era) or a dating app profile (more common since 2013). If a woman has a dating app profile, she can interact with hundreds of men without having any meaningful female friendships. This would be unusual but it could happen.

If a woman has social media profiles, she is going to get attention from men. Most women have Instagram now (especially the type of women I interact with most --- bougie White women). Plenty of men are sending DMs on Instagram to try to get some pussie. If a woman obtained a bachelor's degree and works some white collar job, she is going to have a LinkedIn. There are men who send DMs on LinkedIn to try to get dates and get laid too. Let's also not forget Facebook. Although Facebook's popularity has fallen off in recent years, it was more common circa 2010 for men to try to send messages there to get laid and get dates.

I think it is clear from these examples that a woman would be a non-mainstream hermit in the USA to get to age 30, be a virgin, and have had few romantic interactions.

It would be more realistic for a 30 year old woman in the USA to have never had a committed, exclusive longer term relationship but have had plenty of sex. There are 30 year old women who have never had a committed, exclusive relationship but have had plenty of shorter term sex (1-2 night stands and situationships lasting a few months). A 30 year old woman could do this and easily put up a notch count of 10+. She will get some sort of emotional baggage from her experiences on the penis carousel.

The typical 30 year old White woman in the USA who has gotten a bachelor's degree or higher, works a white collar office job, and lives in a reasonably sized city has some history with men. She has had some combination of exclusive, committed relationships and shorter term sex. Her notch count would depend upon how long she's kept her longer term relationships.

A 30 year old virgin female with no history would have some appeal as her lack of baggage from riding the penis carousel for 12-15 years would be good. She would have some personality oddities due to being some sort of hermit.

Almost everyone marks the delivery as leave at my door, so I don’t even see anybody a lot of times.

Prior to the pandemic, I met some cool delivery guys dropping food off at my place. I didn't do food delivery much in the 2010s (and still don't do delivery much now). These were all very short interactions that weren't meaningful. The conversations were always less than 2 minutes.

Women don't tend to work as food delivery people.

 

[Vanderdonck]

Again, this never would have happened if I were in the states.

According to some posters women have no differences no matter where you go. They're usually the same guys trying to talk men out of traveling or expatriating.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

To assume a 30-year old woman who is attractive is a virgin just be a she says so is folly. Not that she’s trying to marry an American expat or anything, nope, nothing to see here…move along.

Other than that, I’m sure she is attractive and interested in your passport. Just say you want to stay in the Philippines, and not come back to the us, or that you renounced your citizenship see how fast she ghosts yer arse.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

According to some posters women have no differences no matter where you go. They're usually the same guys trying to talk men out of traveling or expatriating.

They are...you can be manipulated by these women just as easily in the US as you can elsewhere. It's just different things they are after, but you are still seen as a means to an end and she isn't dating you because she is super into you.