Getting with older women

[GoodMan32]

CPTSD (complex ptsd) is the term you're looking for.

Fair enough. Call it what you want. The point is it might at least partially explain my preference for older broads.

 

[GoodMan32]

Actually, no. C-PTSD does not change your sexual preferences that way.

You don't have PTSD or C-PTSD. You're just autistic, which often comes with weird phobias to justify self-soothing behaviour.

Like a phobia for getting women pregnant is a mental justification for your emotionally autistic mind to your fetish for maternal figures. You feel safe with old women who won't ask you to be a man, but with whom you can be as much as a child as you want to be.

First of all, 45 (the age in which where I'm no longer afraid to insert myself into a woman) isn't old enough to be my mom. A mere 12 years; that's more in older cousin/older sister territory.

Second of all, having a phobia of pregnancy is one thing. But going as far as focusing on post-prime broads to circumvent a pregnancy phobia, that's on an entirely new level. Many men couldn't bring themselves to focus on post-prime broads, no matter how much the man fears pregnancy. Hell, even on this very forum, I hear there used to be an active fellow autist who shared my crippling pregnancy phobia...yet even he (from what I've heard) preferred young broads.

There has to be another factor at play for why I feel no romantic feelings at all toward young broads. Young broads can be nice to look at; no doubt (And I'd love to kiss/fondle a young broad, as well as watch a young broad pee). But the desire to get romantically involved (or have sex) with a young broad? That desire is simply lacking in me.

There's got to be another explanation (besides my pregnancy phobia/ASD) at play to explain my total lack of romantic interest in young broads.

And I already covered why the mommy issues explanation isn't it. Mommy issues wouldn't explain why my preferred minimum age of 45 remains unchanged, even as the age gap between myself and a 45 year old broad narrows.

 

[SW15]

The "don't be a weirdo" part is the challenge for me (seeing as I'm an autist)

Game is a combination of looks, money, status, and personality. While I don't think personality affects seduction as much as looks or money, it can have an impact.

With your personality, younger women likely perceive you as strange. They feel something is off and they feel "the ick". Women who are younger than you are have a very low bar for behavioral oddities.

You are likely to have a very high rejection rate with younger women due to behavioral oddities. That's why multiple forum members have suggested therapy and medication.

For neurotypicals, chasing older women is very rare. Some younger guys might find it exciting to have sex with one of their mom's friends in their late teens/early 20s. Most neurotypical men grow out of that quickly. That's because the body of a 25-30 year old woman is superior to the body of a 45-50 year old woman.

Right now, 25-32 is a realistic age range for a 33 year old man. Most 33 year old men are focusing their attention on women in that age range when they find themselves single.

 

[GoodMan32]

Game is a combination of looks, money, status, and personality. While I don't think personality affects seduction as much as looks or money, it can have an impact.

With your personality, younger women likely perceive you as strange. They feel something is off and they feel "the ick". Women who are younger than you are have a very low bar for behavioral oddities.

You are likely to have a very high rejection rate with younger women due to behavioral oddities. That's why multiple forum members have suggested therapy and medication.

For neurotypicals, chasing older women is very rare. Some younger guys might find it exciting to have sex with one of their mom's friends in their late teens/early 20s. Most neurotypical men grow out of that quickly. That's because the body of a 25-30 year old woman is superior to the body of a 45-50 year old woman.

Right now, 25-32 is a realistic age range for a 33 year old man. Most 33 year old men are focusing their attention on women in that age range when they find themselves single.

There's some stuff I'd like to unpack about your post.

Other than observing my writing style in my posts (and hearing me mention stuff like being viewed as the freak of the school in high school), you don't know a whole lot about my personality.

Worth mentioning is the fact you said I don't show any surefire clues of being an autist in the YouTube clip you saw of me. Let's put it this way: If 100 randomly selected Americans who don't know me in person were to watch that clip, they'd probably be shocked to find out I was viewed as a creepy freak in high school.

Additionally, if (per your own admission) I'd have an extremely high rejection rate among broads younger than me, it's somewhat contradictory to then say I should pursue younger.

Yeah, I get that most 33 year olds don't want older. But I'm not most 33 year olds.

Reading between the lines, it sounds like older broads perhaps are more lenient when it comes to "off" behavior? In that case, it would appear going older might make the most sense in my specific circumstances (Especially since I prefer older anyway. As I said on my last post on this thread, young broads are nice to look at, yet I have no romantic feelings toward young broads)

I've gone to several therapists already. As for medication, my parents opted out of putting me on medication as a kid because medication often leads to new problems. They were right.

 

[SW15]

Additionally, if (per your own admission) I'd have an extremely high rejection rate among broads younger than me, it's somewhat contradictory to then say I should pursue younger.

You would also have an extremely high rejection rate among women 45-60 years as well.

If you're going to take a lot of rejections, it's better to take a lot of rejections to get a woman with a younger and more physically appealing body.

I've gone to several therapists already.

They've done a poor job with you. Some of that likely is a you thing. Both sides are to blame.

In fairness, psychotherapy is somewhat limited in what it can do for dating improvement. I've mentioned that on other threads. Psychotherapy typically won't improve one's match rate on a swipe app, as that depends more on presentation with photos/videos. That's outside the realm of psychotherapy. Psychotherapy might help with in-app messaging on an app, but probably not. It's debatable.

Psychotherapy may or may not help someone make initial approaches and set dates off of those initial approaches. Psychotherapy generally doesn't help with the first 15-20 seconds of an initial approaches.

Psychotherapy is better in helping with dating problems further on in the interaction.

 

[GoodMan32]

You would also have an extremely high rejection rate among women 45-60 years as well.

If you're going to take a lot of rejections, it's better to take a lot of rejections to get a woman with a younger and more physically appealing body.



They've done a poor job with you. Some of that likely is a you thing. Both sides are to blame.

In fairness, psychotherapy is somewhat limited in what it can do for dating improvement. I've mentioned that on other threads. Psychotherapy typically won't improve one's match rate on a swipe app, as that depends more on presentation with photos/videos. That's outside the realm of psychotherapy. Psychotherapy might help with in-app messaging on an app, but probably not. It's debatable.

Psychotherapy may or may not help someone make initial approaches and set dates off of those initial approaches. Psychotherapy generally doesn't help with the first 15-20 seconds of an initial approaches.

Psychotherapy is better in helping with dating problems further on in the interaction.

The other day, I stroked myself to completion while thinking about a female coworker in her 60s. The body of an older broad excites me plenty.

The fact my 3 most recent non-escort lays were born in 69, 72, and 78 is worth mentioning (as far as my chances of getting an older woman)

If psychotherapy (per your own admission) won't help me initially pique the interest of a woman, why bother with psychotherapy?

 

[SW15]

If psychotherapy (per your own admission) won't help me initially pique the interest of a woman, why bother with psychotherapy?

There's more to mating than the initial pique. The initial pique is an area that gets a lot of attention (rightfully so) but in the scheme of a larger interaction, it's a small part. Psychotherapy can help with retaining women for longer periods and you made a thread about your problems with retaining the women who you've been able to successfully seduce.

The fact my 3 most recent non-escort lays were born in 69, 72, and 78 is worth mentioning (as far as my chances of getting an older woman)

It's worth mentioning. If you are having sex with women born in 1969-1978, that outcome is influenced by your own behavior. You are spending more time trying to seduce that age range than the 1991-1998 birth year women.

 

[GoodMan32]

Isn't that a euphemism for wanking your short straw?

It's a masturbation reference, yeah.

 

[GoodMan32]

There's more to mating than the initial pique. The initial pique is an area that gets a lot of attention (rightfully so) but in the scheme of a larger interaction, it's a small part. Psychotherapy can help with retaining women for longer periods and you made a thread about your problems with retaining the women who you've been able to successfully seduce.



It's worth mentioning. If you are having sex with women born in 1969-1978, that outcome is influenced by your own behavior. You are spending more time trying to seduce that age range than the 1991-1998 birth year women.

You're right, retention is a problem. Piquing a woman's interest initially is a problem too.

Ideally, I'd like to become better at piquing initial interest and better at retaining a woman once I've piqued her interest.

Even though I've focused more on broads born in the 60s/70s than the typical early 90s baby has, I've focused on broads close in age to me more than you might think. Without knowing the exact ratio off hand, I'd estimate my success rate percentage is higher with broads born in the 60s/70s than with broads close in age to me. Hell, in some cases, broads born in the 60s/70s have made the first move.

 

[GoodMan32]

The question was rhetorical, but I think I want to put up a poll on how many pages this nonsense thread is going to be. I bet you could get it up in the double-digits again. Would be nice to have something in the double digits, no? < another rhetorical question, so you don't need to answer that.

The point is I'm genuinely attracted to older broads (the fact I sometimes think about broads even older than my mom when I pleasure myself)

The thread is about older broads.

 

[Learning Curve]

I had an older woman around 38 and i was in my 20s at the time.

We were friends with benefits for basically 3+ years.

At a stage in the middle of this she wanted a relationship and i told her explicitly no.

The sex with her was something i will never forget. It was that good.

But, older women also want relationships and they act like teenagers as the time goes by, and as with all women even after being 60 they want to settle this is the natural flow of things.

You are 32 and you are aiming for 65? Common man.

Thats just plainly stupid. If sex is what attracts you to older women or their mature personalities look for younger women that have those traits to a percentage.

But you are waisting your time by chasing older women, you will be in your 40s without realising how the time has past chasing old trash bags.

 

[GoodMan32]

I had an older woman around 38 and i was in my 20s at the time.

We were friends with benefits for basically 3+ years.

At a stage in the middle of this she wanted a relationship and i told her explicitly no.

The sex with her was something i will never forget. It was that good.

But, older women also want relationships and they act like teenagers as the time goes by, and as with all women even after being 60 they want to settle this is the natural flow of things.

You are 32 and you are aiming for 65? Common man.

Thats just plainly stupid. If sex is what attracts you to older women or their mature personalities look for younger women that have those traits to a percentage.

But you are waisting your time by chasing older women, you will be in your 40s without realising how the time has past chasing old trash bags.

In the time since making the thread, I've turned 33.

Yeah, I'm into gals as old as 60s.

A young woman having older behavioral traits is meaningless. I have fertility reasons of why I prefer older.

Even though I don't think fancying older gals is a waste of time, I admit I've wasted much of life in general as it is. I don't need to reach my 40s to come to that realization.

 

[SW15]

I have fertility reasons of why I prefer older.

The autistic forum members here have had extreme difficulty with the concepts of condoms and birth control.

Condoms are good in preventing pregnancy. When a man uses condoms with a woman who isn't on birth control, he still has a very good chance in preventing pregnancy.

Most younger women tend to use birth control. There's a good chance in any given interaction that the woman is a birth control user.

In a situation when a man uses a condom and a woman properly uses whatever birth control method she uses, the chances of pregnancy are very small.

In general, a man has a better chance of convincing a 22-32 year old birth control using woman to have sex vs. a 45+ woman.

I think part of the reason that you have convinced yourself that you like substantially older women is that you have acted passive in a lot of interactions. Younger women don't have time for passive men with the abundance that they receive. While few older women are into substantially younger men, the older women that might be into that might be more ok with passive behavior. Sometimes the older woman will be the initiator in an interaction with a younger man or be more inclined to escalate if she's sexually interested in a younger man.

Fixing the passivity issue is likely to help.

 

[GoodMan32]

The autistic forum members here have had extreme difficulty with the concepts of condoms and birth control.

Condoms are good in preventing pregnancy. When a man uses condoms with a woman who isn't on birth control, he still has a very good chance in preventing pregnancy.

Most younger women tend to use birth control. There's a good chance in any given interaction that the woman is a birth control user.

In a situation when a man uses a condom and a woman properly uses whatever birth control method she uses, the chances of pregnancy are very small.

In general, a man has a better chance of convincing a 22-32 year old birth control using woman to have sex vs. a 45+ woman.

I think part of the reason that you have convinced yourself that you like substantially older women is that you have acted passive in a lot of interactions. Younger women don't have time for passive men with the abundance that they receive. While few older women are into substantially younger men, the older women that might be into that might be more ok with passive behavior. Sometimes the older woman will be the initiator in an interaction with a younger man or be more inclined to escalate if she's sexually interested in a younger man.

Fixing the passivity issue is likely to help.

I went through a long stretch where I relied on condoms to get with many a young woman.

I have a file on my phone of all my smashpieces. After consulting my file, 15 of my 28 partners were below 40 (youngest was 21).

Of those 15, there were 3 who were already pregnant. And there was 1 where I demanded proof of birth control (she obliged).

That leaves 11 partners who were either 20 or 30 somethings where they: 1) weren't already pregnant 2) nor did I have any idea whether they were on birth control.

Then, starting at age 31, I ended up on an unlucky streak. I've had some condoms break, as well as a condom slip off. In the time since my first scare (a condom slipping off), I've only been with a woman below 45 twice.

Long story short, I threw caution to the wind (and started trusting condoms), only for condoms to eventually break my trust (no pun intended)

I find it interesting you say a man has a better chance of convincing a 22-32 year old to have sex than a 45+ woman. Supposedly, many a woman's sex drive skyrockets in her 40s (and on the other hand, a young woman...especially toward the younger end of the 22-32 age range, is notorious for having lower sex drives than men)

The 45 year old married woman I had the affair with at 23 said she had become uncontrollably horny to the point of putting her phone inside her cooch on vibrate.

If we're talking about, say, a 60 year old woman, I'd agree there's a high chance they'd be low sex drive. On the younger end of the 45+ demographic, however, not so much.

It's quite possible the passive thing is why I've had a decent amount of luck with older.

 

[SW15]

Supposedly, many a woman's sex drive skyrockets in her 40s (and on the other hand, a young woman...especially toward the younger end of the 22-32 age range, is notorious for having lower sex drives than men)

It can happen where a woman's sex drive spikes in her late 30s/early 40s. This is a "Last Call" at the bar type phenomenon. It's their last chance to get pregnant before menopause although their odds of pregnancy have diminished. Hormonally, late 30s/early 40s do experience increased testosterone but nowhere near the testosterone that men have if they aren't on birth control at that point. Even lower T men have more testosterone.

Some women stay off birth control after having kids whereas some other women will go back on some form of birth control after they have kids because they don't want more kids.

There's less urgency for a woman to reproduce in her 20s because she's not near Last Call. In the past, women did use their 20s to have kids during Peak Fertility (their 20s) but that has changed a lot in recent decades. Women in the Gen Y/Millennial generation have been well known for postponing pregnancy into their 30s and around Last Call. Last Call babies have dominated my bougie, Millennial social circle.

College educations and pursuing post college white collar careers have been reasons why Millennial women have been well known for postponing pregnancy as long as they can.