Getting Jacked/Ripped Doesn't Help You Get Laid

[jjflash]

And I can't think of any friends who are legit ripped. My chad friend is in good shape (Godly genetics. Doesn't even lift weights but sure as hell looks like he does!) BUT I know it's his face that gets him the girls (looks like a mix of every handsome actor I can think of lol)

All i'd say is that being ripped is an element of looks and so would presumably help out at least a little bit, although certainly no magic bullet.

This reminds me of when I was VERY young before I'd even hit puberty, and I remember someone telling me 'muscles will get you older women. Young girls just want a handsome face, older women want a handsome face too of course, but muscles and general masculinity (and money) carry more weight with older women

I have several friends who have very muscular builds. Both are average height, both have average, maybe slightly above average looks face wise. I don't know why, but they struggle a lot getting dates. They are late 20's early 30's guys. I have other friends of average appearance but not as muscular and they struggle just as much.

Come to think of it, most guys I know are struggling with their dating lives! Many of the local guys are working class, blue collar types and a lot of them make a surprising amount of money. Women however aren't strongly attracted to these types of guys.

As others have alluded to, it's pretty much only the pretty boy, boy-band and cover model looking guys that women are strongly attracted to.

 

[HaleyBaron]

I have several friends who are very muscular builds. Both are average height, both have average, maybe slightly above average looks face wise. I don't know why, but they struggle a lot getting dates. They are late 20's early 30's guys. I have other friends of average appearance but not as muscular but they likewise struggle just as much.

Come to think of it, most guys I know are struggling with their dating lives! Many of the local guys are working class, blue collar types and a lot of them make a surprising amount of money. Women aren't attracted to these types of guys.

As others have alluded to, it's pretty much only the pretty boy boy-band and cover model looking guys that women are strongly attracted to.

I would like to see these men. I suspect they are not as good looking as you are portraying them. You're correlating lack of success with the aptitude of fitness, which is a mistake. To you, men shouldn't get jacked cause it won't matter anyway. Why get jacked if it doesn't get you girls.

And here is my answer: nothing in life is guaranteed. You believe that if someone gets fit, they should be swimming in girls. I suspect that you also came to this forum thinking the tips here will guarantee women. And that your lack of success proves that the tips doesn't work. This is a naive and immature view that stumps a lot of people that post here from my short time on this forum. Being fit, like all things, is but one of the factors to becoming more attractive. You also forget that a man could have status, money, and looks, and still end up with just one girl, whether cause oneitis or he is married. At that level, you are allowed to be picky. You also forget that most men are not players. They rather have one girl and settle with her. And maybe an affair down the road due to realizing how high valued they are once they hit the middle of their life.

 

[Dash Riprock]

In general, owning a 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport won't help a guy get laid. That's a great point!

Fitness and big muscles will always help.

It is a great vehicle. Nothing is better for rugged off road than a Jeep. See pic.

I was very fat until my 17yrs. That period I never had any girl attracted to me. Also no sex, kiss or dates.

When I got in shape I dated some of the most hot women in my town. They literally came to me without effort.

Good point. Agreed.

OP's point (see the title of his thread) is that a good body won't get you LAID or equate to MORE S*EX. This is absolutely 100% wrong.

Damn, it's simple Girls 101: Quick lesson -- Women are attracted to healthy men because they represent better offspring. Healthy men have good bodies and yes, good musculature. Accept it and get over it (to the guys whining about it). Bottom line. Done.

Women can't "unwire" themselves on what they're attracted to any more than your Mac Air Book can suddenly start acting like a Dell Win 10 laptop.

Look at the celebrity guys women swoon over. ALL are lean and fit and some have good musculature. None are fat assess, frumpy, or slobs.

I will admit, for marriage and to some degree LTRs, your body counts, but it's more about conducive lifestyles, interests, communication, and overall compatibility. Then, throw in your level of success, wealth, and ability to provide (as the family leader) a good life for all in your family. No woman worth anything wants to live in a cardboard box with a guy with no money, ambition, or career success.

Not to poke sticks at OP, but he admitted he was 40# overweight at one time. It doesn't sound to me like he's a guy who places a lot of emphasis on his health and now he's p*issed and looking for excuses as to why he doesn't get laid more.

 

[jjflash]

OP's point (see the title of his thread) is that a good body won't get you LAID or equate to MORE S*EX. This is absolutely 100% wrong.

It looks like you failed 1st grade math. I've pointed to numerous examples of very muscular guys who can't get a date at all (unless we're talking borderline 5's and below. Even here, these guys struggle). I've known these guys for years and they can't even get a single date. They've got good careers, middling social skills at least, average-ish facial appearance maybe a bit higher.

To add, what's sad is that several of these muscular guys are actually extroverted and very active in organizing parties, outings and social events. The girls appreciate this, as it saves them all of the effort in meeting good looking guys (not them apparently) and keeps them from looking "desperate" and of course guys like myself don't have to do sh-t and get to hook up with the better looking girls in our groups lol without having to do anything besides show up.

Damn, it's simple Girls 101: Quick lesson -- Women are attracted to healthy men because they represent better offspring. Healthy men have good bodies and yes, good musculature. Accept it and get over it (to the guys whining about it). Bottom line. Done.

Healthy doesn't mean "jacked/ripped." The only reason we see this type at all these days is because of excess hormones in the food supply, steroid abusers and a big push from media to promote 'roided out freaks as role models. I'm sorry you were dumb enough to take the bait.

As far as evolution, it favors having a higher percentage of body fat as we have lived through feast and famine periods for 99.9% of our species' history. It's not like Wal Marts were everywhere 10,000 years ago. You're being ridiculously short sighted and don't have the faintest clue as to what you're talking about.

Look at the celebrity guys women swoon over. ALL are lean and fit and some have good musculature. None are fat assess, frumpy, or slobs.

It's not women who swoon over 'roid monkeys like Dwayne Johnson, it's guys like you who are swooning over them LMAO.

Dwayne Johnson's ex is a borderline 5 at best.

The guys women actually do swoon over: Leo DiCaprio, Johnny Depp, etc, are skinny AF. Chris Hemsworth is muscular but he'd still have female fans if he were much thinner as he has a good looking face.

Not to poke sticks at OP, but he admitted he was 40# overweight at one time. It doesn't sound to me like he's a guy who places a lot of emphasis on his health and now he's p*issed and looking for excuses as to why he doesn't get laid more.

I'm still 5 to 10 pounds above what I would consider to be my ideal weight. The reality is, it's made literally zero difference in my ability to date and attract women.

Sorry you've wasted all of your time in the gym all of these years (decades?). It makes no difference. You just wasted a sh-t ton of your life grunting like a stuck pig in a room with dozens of smelly men and downing disgusting soy protein shakes. What a waste lol.

The reality is, you're throwing a tantrum just like a woman, which is all too common for steroid abusers.

 

[Snag87]

I'd say I'm easily in top 1% shape for men my age. I can often spot women looking at me and a few have even commented on my physique, but being in shape has not solved my dating problems or helped me get laid.

Sure, being in shape can help you not get rejected at first sight, but attracting a woman is, I've learned, much more about how you make her feel than how you look.

Taking a look at my group of friends and colleagues who are married or in a LTR, the hottest women have not chosen the guys with the best physiques. Not at all. The common thing all these men share seems to be success in life (career and wealth) and, more importantly, excellent social skills. These guys are genuinely easy-going and fun the be around.

And this has not just been the case in my 30s, I made pretty much the same observation in my 20s as well. The guy who is fun to be around gets the top women.

Agree 100%. I'm nearly 34, in the top 97%+ percentile in regards to fitness. It helps a lot in attracting women, and once in a blue moon a one night stand. However, if you don't give a woman all the butterflies from the onset, she's out, regardless of your physique.

A guy like me can go on 15 dates, bomb them all and be back at square one. A fat guy might get 1 or 2 dates, or even none at all. Ultimately, same result. The fat guy actually saved money/time.

 

[BMX]

On my journey to becoming bigger and adding all kinds of mass, I've relapsed into awkwardness time and time again. Being bulky and awkward will work against you hardcore. But I've learned enough about myself and others through work and travel and have honestly become more extroverted than in my entire lifetime before the social changes I've made. You have to put in the work socially, in your professional life, in your personal hygiene and self-care routines and then you can reap the benefits of both worlds. You can't just hit the weights 24/7 pounding out set after set and neglect developing your social side because it won't turn out pretty for you. Nobody wants to get with some literal ogre... I've changed far too much to regress now, because that would require way the fvck too much backwards-bending on my behalf.

 

[Blacksheep]

It is a great vehicle. Nothing is better for rugged off road than a Jeep. See pic.


Good point. Agreed.

OP's point (see the title of his thread) is that a good body won't get you LAID or equate to MORE S*EX. This is absolutely 100% wrong.

Damn, it's simple Girls 101: Quick lesson -- Women are attracted to healthy men because they represent better offspring. Healthy men have good bodies and yes, good musculature. Accept it and get over it (to the guys whining about it). Bottom line. Done.

Women can't "unwire" themselves on what they're attracted to any more than your Mac Air Book can suddenly start acting like a Dell Win 10 laptop.

Look at the celebrity guys women swoon over. ALL are lean and fit and some have good musculature. None are fat assess, frumpy, or slobs.

I will admit, for marriage and to some degree LTRs, your body counts, but it's more about conducive lifestyles, interests, communication, and overall compatibility. Then, throw in your level of success, wealth, and ability to provide (as the family leader) a good life for all in your family. No woman worth anything wants to live in a cardboard box with a guy with no money, ambition, or career success.

Not to poke sticks at OP, but he admitted he was 40# overweight at one time. It doesn't sound to me like he's a guy who places a lot of emphasis on his health and now he's p*issed and looking for excuses as to why he doesn't get laid more.

The fantasy goes away when we understand the game.

Its simple, objective and anything other than that is only our fantasy trying to deny the red pill of how things works.

Since I got it, I cant see any relationship as I used before. Its purely based on interests (genetics, status, opportunity...). The more you can offer in those aspects, the high is the level you can achieve on the sexual market.

This explains why famous, rich and on good shape men/women find partners on the same level.

A painful truth but it allow us to go and chase what really matters and stop wasting our time with fantasies sold on movies.

I had a interesting dream last night:

I was a warrior like a viking, and I had to fight against a big tiger that most of people in that dream got killed or couldnt fight it. I went there, killed the tiger with my strenght and courage... And at the end, the hottest woman came to me and I was kissing her and enjoying that perfect and young sexy woman. Was a funny dream btw haha.

 

[Machine10033]

It does help you. It doesn’t lead to you getting laid though. I am in crazy shape for my age... get comments all the time. I also have periods where i am not as social as I would like. My looks open the door for me... but if I’m off and game sucks... it’s over. If your shredded and are anywhere near on your game you will have a better shot at getting laid than a fat... ugly dude using the exact same amount of game.

 

[Snag87]

It does help you. It doesn’t lead to you getting laid though. I am in crazy shape for my age... get comments all the time. I also have periods where i am not as social as I would like. My looks open the door for me... but if I’m off and game sucks... it’s over. If your shredded and are anywhere near on your game you will have a better shot at getting laid than a fat... ugly dude using the exact same amount of game.

Seems every ripped guy echoes the same sentiments. Cased closed.

 

[Guy69JackBlue]

fat... ugly dude

Why does it always have to be extremes?

The vast majority of people fall somewhere in between "super jacked" and "fat and ugly." Like 95% of people are in between.

 

[Snag87]

Why does it always have to be extremes?

The vast majority of people fall somewhere in between "super jacked" and "fat and ugly." Like 95% of people are in between.

Do you live in America? It's nowhere near 95% here. Very few super jacked, plenty of fat and ugly.

 

[Blacksheep]

I think with a little bit of luck it's not so difficult to maintain the Hollywood fantasy for people that married pretty young and have reasonably successful marriages. Red pill is for people that still in the game past the expiration date

I believe that healthy relationships can exist, also building some kind of love (different that we hear about), loyalty and partnership... But that would require the maturity of both parts. And being aware of those dynamics.

What did you mean with the expiration date?

 

[AttackFormation]

Still in the game in your 30s "gaming" professional daters for whom everything is just value, dollars and cents

Do these women form fwbs? or do you have to keep putting in effort to have sex with new ones all the time?

 

[derby1]

It's not women who swoon over 'roid monkeys like Dwayne Johnson, it's guys like you who are swooning over them LMAO.

Total nonsense, Dwayne Johnson came on the Graham Norton show in the UK. and every single woman in the audience basically squirted on the stage, Id never seen such a response to a guy

 

[Sam_J]

I agree with OP, furthermore I, too, have seen fat slobs or skinny-as-fvck guys with some of the hottest girls I've seen in my city.

Meanwhile, back when I was hitting the gym regularly and was at 180lbs with 10% body fat, my approaches went nowhere and I remained a virgin.

I'm going back to the gym now but it's for myself rather than to attract women.

What changed for you and made your approaches effective?

 

[SargeMaximus]

What changed for you and made your approaches effective?

I went exclusively online. Here’s a recent convo:

 

[Sam_J]

I went exclusively online. Here’s a recent convo:

So cold approach never worked? Is online that much easier? Most of what I've read is the opposite, but maybe if you look really good but struggle with conversations in person, then online is better.

 

[SargeMaximus]

So cold approach never worked? Is online that much easier? Most of what I've read is the opposite, but maybe if you look really good but struggle with conversations in person, then online is better.

Exactly right my friend

 

[Sam_J]

Exactly right my friend

Yeah I mean I look decent but not good enough to stand out online. I will try dating apps though. I feel like with 500-1000+ approaches, cold approach can eventually work for anyone with enough patience and ability to take rejection after rejection.