From pessimist in the US to optimist in the Philippines

[bigjohnson]

I see you're not going to try to dig up 99 for every 1 after all. Let's address the rest of your bullsh1t.

What is a sex-tourist? If I go on a trip to take pictures, am I called a photo-tourist? If I go someplace to see temples am I called a temple-tourist? If I go someplace to relax am i called a relaxation-tourist? No? Try to work out why not and get back to me. Think of it as an IQ test.

 

[Dark Chivalry]

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Sex tourism is travel to engage in sexual intercourse or sexual activity with prostitutes, and is typically undertaken internationally by tourists from wealthier countries whose payment for services may then be rendered either in cash or in kind.

Sailors or businessmen or people who travel and happen to get laid are not sex tourists, just the ones who go on holiday to find some *****s who have starving children or siblings and have become desperate enough to let a repulsive guy bust an unwashed, wrinkly nut.

 

[bigjohnson]

The programming goes so deep.

Find the wikipedia article for temple-tourists. That's the whole point - there's not one. The term is an invented one designed to easily allow western media to disparage and marginalize people at will. Go to SEA on business and get laid, you're a businessman UNTIL someone has an axe to grind, then you're a sex-tourist. It's an invented loaded word, like "assault weapon" or any of a number of others. Created oxymorons like "African-American" or hijacked phrases like "Native American" get me in a twist almost as quickly.

Learn to think on your own people.

DC's comment above is symptomatic - I guess by his definition if you use a rubber you can't POSSIBLY be a dreaded sex-tourist.

 

[englishman]

Unfortunately you are not AlphaMale,


Alpha male? what are we a tribe of baboons? alpha is as the women sees it, man with big stick = alpha male in some society, d1ck with big wallet and no personality is alpha to another,man with pencil thin arms but good with guitar to another. I say the whole aplha thing isnt a sophisticated enough model for humans.

 

[Rebound Material]

Fcuk Yea! Represent My Homeland!

 

[Dark Chivalry]

Go to SEA on business and get laid, you're a businessman UNTIL someone has an axe to grind, then you're a sex-tourist.

If you pay to get laid, you are a John, plain and simple. Go on holiday to exchange money for sex, you are a sex tourist. We could also call the OP a travelling john if you prefer that term. Why is it offensive to call a spade a spade?

ETA
I don't think it is always immoral to visit prostitutes and if a man enjoys paying to play he can do his thing but it is just not DJ, it's taking the easy way out to avoid cultivating even the most basic of DJ skills. There are some sites out there for johns to discuss experiences with hookers. Why doesn't OP go there? He wants to have the status of an a man who has mastered the art of seducing women without working up a bit of sweat on his balls to get past the fear of approaching, to lift some weights, to read books. He does not belong on a DJ forum the same way a man who buys a steak in the supermarket has no business posting on a hunting forum.

 

[bigjohnson]

Famous Quote: "All women are wh0res except mom, and if you get Dad drunk enough he'll argue about that"


Men and women decide to have sex for a TON of different reasons, and if you don't think 90% or more of it isn't with at least some potential for material benefit you need to get out more. I personally have never negotiated sex for money as a distinct transaction, but I have paid for plenty of dates. I've bought a lot of movie tickets and some flowers once in a while before I saw the light. I know a lot of married guys who have essentially forfeited their right to 50% or more of the things they own for a little tail.

The idea of negotiating the actual cost up front is in many ways a refreshing one.

None of that is directly to the point, but it's funny you are so eager to characterize every aspect of a person based on a single data point. Whether they "paid for sex" even though it's an incredibly nebulous term.

• If the guy picks her up at a bar and takes her to a hotel, is he a john?
• What if he pays for the hotel?
• What if he pays for the hotel and she needed a place to sleep?
• What if he bought her drinks in the bar?
• What if he pays her taxi fare?
• What if he pays for everything and gives her money for taxi fare?
• What if he just skips the bullshyt and gives her the $80 he would have spent on drinks, cab fare, and a room and goes to her place?
• What if he's a handsome charmer who, after reaming her in a variety of wonderfully fulfilling ways decides he wants to help her out financially?

The world is not in black and white folks.

Further, there has to be a shorthand for this single dimensional character-assassination. Sweet.

 

[englishman]

No need to write a novel, OP. You moved from a place where guys like you are a dime a dozen to a place where YOU are exotic and in demand. I am going to china in the fall.

Off subject a bit here but I was in China 2 years back, German guy showed me this club, full of gorgous Chinese babes, got to about 4a.m. and I staggered out and into a cab.

3 thats three women jump in the cab with me, "we come with you!" they were hostest girls, bar girls, hookers but not in the N.American sense, (same same but different?)

I was thinking fvck 3? anyway one got out and so I was like what the fvck Im on holiday.

So back to there place, was apartment building somewhere in Shanghai, up the steps and into there place. One says "take off clothes, I will suck you she will fvck you!"

The 3 of us are naked on the bed, Im making out with one and the other clamps her lips round my balls and proceeds to give me a BJ, then puts a condom on me and I swapped women and banged the other one....hahha... I know, some will say usual stuff about banging *****s etc.... was exellent though.

I looked in my wallet and I only had some small chinese notes....so the women were like "ATM, ATM we go now ATM....

I was ok, lets go , Im a big believer in paying for what I bought!

But at the ATM on the key pad it only had numbers and In Canada where I live now it has numbers and letters like a phone key pad. I dont have a clue what the numbers are Ive always remembered a word to access it.

So thinking 1 must also be ABC I winged it, turns out its not, # 2 is ABC so after 3 attempts it ate my card.

The girls went ape sh1t, but I was still half drunk and feeling almost high with jet lag and the great feeling of this threesome and could only laugh my fvckin head off, so in the end they started laughing to, and I just gave em the bit of small notes I had in my wallet.

We were real close to the club it turned out and the place was still going even though it was now daylight, the girls went back there and I just gave em a wave.

In the end I got in a taxi and gave the guy a travell cheque to get me back to the Bund where I was staying at the captain hostel.

Was a good laugh.

 

[PeeGee]

Off subject a bit here but I was in China 2 years back, German guy showed me this club, full of gorgous Chinese babes, got to about 4a.m. and I staggered out and into a cab.

3 thats three women jump in the cab with me, "we come with you!" they were hostest girls, bar girls, hookers but not in the N.American sense, (same same but different?)

I was thinking fvck 3? anyway one got out and so I was like what the fvck Im on holiday.

So back to there place, was apartment building somewhere in Shanghai, up the steps and into there place. One says "take off clothes, I will suck you she will fvck you!"

The 3 of us are naked on the bed, Im making out with one and the other clamps her lips round my balls and proceeds to give me a BJ, then puts a condom on me and I swapped women and banged the other one....hahha... I know, some will say usual stuff about banging *****s etc.... was exellent though.

I looked in my wallet and I only had some small chinese notes....so the women were like "ATM, ATM we go now ATM....

I was ok, lets go , Im a big believer in paying for what I bought!

But at the ATM on the key pad it only had numbers and In Canada where I live now it has numbers and letters like a phone key pad. I dont have a clue what the numbers are Ive always remembered a word to access it.

So thinking 1 must also be ABC I winged it, turns out its not, # 2 is ABC so after 3 attempts it ate my card.

The girls went ape sh1t, but I was still half drunk and feeling almost high with jet lag and the great feeling of this threesome and could only laugh my fvckin head off, so in the end they started laughing to, and I just gave em the bit of small notes I had in my wallet.

We were real close to the club it turned out and the place was still going even though it was now daylight, the girls went back there and I just gave em a wave.

In the end I got in a taxi and gave the guy a travell cheque to get me back to the Bund where I was staying at the captain hostel.

Was a good laugh.

I was going to agree with the OP but now my interest is piqued. What did you pay (it was small notes) for that? Very odd thing to have happened lol...

Anyway, I finally made friends with filipinos recently (Haven't since I was too young to have a girlfriend), and I must agree with everything. They are friendly, always up to do something, and I'm never afraid to be myself in front of them.

Some of them are shy and if hong kong is any indication there will be the gold diggers, but they are easy to weed out. Good hunting.

 

[ricorico]

I see you're not going to try to dig up 99 for every 1 after all. Let's address the rest of your bullsh1t.

What is a sex-tourist? If I go on a trip to take pictures, am I called a photo-tourist? If I go someplace to see temples am I called a temple-tourist? If I go someplace to relax am i called a relaxation-tourist? No? Try to work out why not and get back to me. Think of it as an IQ test.

BigJ,

You keep talking about sex tourist. Why is it the only thing on your mind? I said Winston was as he has admitted it on his blog.He is notorious for paying prostitutes and women in Russia to have sex, so what is that called???? That is why he gets kicked off every site he goes on because eventually his true colors come out!!! Never said anyone else was a sex tourist. I SAID the guys that have to go to the Phillipines to get attention and wives are usually losers who can't get a female here because they are too lazy to look at themselves and see they are disgusting physically and better change.

There are countless of websites out there where the guys marrying the Fillipinas mostly look retarded,old, or obese. It's the majority and I am not making it up!!! I am talking guys who are looking for relationships here and all you can obssess about is sex-tourism. Why?

As for the guys the Pinays marry in their country, they are on the low quality end of the totem pole as far as men go. The Pinays in the U.S. with choices and money would rather commit suicide than marry those species of men. that is why even with the U.S. chock-full of Asians and Fillipinas, second rate guys still have to travel to get some because their money and U.S. passport is the only lure.

Now knowing the disgusting guys those Pinays would put up with just to get out of poverty would not make me feel like I am such a stud. It's like running in the Special Olympics with a bunch or retarded people and winning. Not much of a competition! Not much to brag about since just about anybody can get a chick over there. Even an obese smelly guy with halitosis and a bum leg.

 

[bigjohnson]

BigJ,

You keep talking about sex tourist. Why ....

It's the very first thing you said about the guy, I didn't.

The original poster is .... sex tourist

Why are you so obsessed with sex tourists? Yeah, it's a stupid question isn't it?

 

[englishman]

My 2 bits on the 'sex tourist' label.

I have no problem pulling women here in Canada, good looking women well below my age, educated, nice good personlity (well maybe not good personality all the time)

However Ive been to S.E. Asia 2 times, 1st time I had no clue about the sex business over there and I was suprised at the magnitude of it, It's huge in Thailand.

Now I am over 40, so I did fit the demographic over there, that is over 35 white westerner.

And yes there were a lot of ugly fat white dudes particularly in Pattaya city who just couldnt pull over here to save there lives, and I had to remind myself that much as it was fun over there it would be a sad day when I made that my only sexual avenue.

Having said that though, here are a few observations.

1. I helped a women out at a gas station few days after I got back, shed run out of gas so I gave her a ride to her car, told her I'd just got back from Thailand, she said " oh, are you a sex tourist!?" I said "what?" are you a fvcking nut job???/

2. I told a male friend I was going and he said "into fvcking little children are ya?"

Lot of ignorance about the world man, lot of it.

3. Here in Canada, women can buy dildos, big fvck off red ones, black ones, rotating ones, fist shaped ones, some made specialy to shove up there azz, they can have parties where they bring all there mates round to play with em, go on T.V. and talk about em, and it's called empowerment!

Yet a guy is in a country and some babe offers him a good time for a few bucks and he's revilled ' A John' ...'sex tourist' such shame, when of course we all know that wanking 3 times a day back in your home country is perfectly fine?

4. One day all on here will be old men, when your an old man, young women wont look at you like now. All the women your age will have gone through menopause have fat boxy aszes and you will be like what the fvck is this it?

So you can sit at home spanking off to the internet talking about the shame of it all or go to this warm sunny cheap place where gorgeous young women will put on a show and make you believe a bit of a fantasy in exchange for a few bucks, the $15 or $30 you give them for 24 hours of this is what they would earn in a month in some sh1t hole sewing shop in Bangkok, so all are happy.

Go see and then talk about it.

 

[ricorico]

It's the very first thing you said about the guy, I didn't.



Why are you so obsessed with sex tourists? Yeah, it's a stupid question isn't it?

Look up the name Winston Wu. He himself admits he paid prostitutes in Russia to have sex, but used no condoms which had many wondering if he was crazy. Boasted about talking girls down in price for sex. Once begged a forun to have everyone on that forum send him $5 each cause he ran out of money after being in Russia for 6 months. Doing what? Trying to get sex. Now if that is not the defination of a sex tourist what is?

Now as for being 60-70 years old I don't know what I will do then. But I hope paying women in poor countries to have sex with me and BS me all day long won't be my thing. I live in Beverly Hills and see these pathetic relationships all day long. It just takes more money here, but basically the same shallow relationships.

I hope at 70 I have more going on in my life than just travelling for sex and using Viagra to try to get it up. Old guys can barely get it up anyway.But I guess the ego will make some want to live in fantasy land that the young girl you had to take Viagra to have sex with is actually enjoying an old saggy,wrinkly body on top of hers. I hope I'm not that dellusional to beleive she's not faking it for the almighty dollar.

Women sex tourist are just as pathetic. Especially the ones 30-40 years older who brag their hard bodied boy-toy really loves them. I once looked at an Egyptian one where these women were comparing size,then age difference. The winner had a guy 37 years younger. One old bat bragged her boy-toy could do it 6-7 times a day. Some were marrying these guys and bringing them to the U.S. Desperation knows no bounds. the guys poor and young were just eager to get money and a green card. Then those old ladies would make fun of fat white disgusting old American men. Same things those old American men say about them.LOL!!!

READ ON: Sex Tourism for women


[edit]Female Sex Tourism Destinations
Main article: Female sex tourism
The primary destinations for female sex tourism are Southern Europe (mainly Italy, former Yugoslavia, Turkey, Greece and Spain), the Caribbean (led by Jamaica, Barbados and the Dominican Republic), parts of Africa, Pattaya or Phuket in Thailand. Lesser destinations include Nepal, Morocco, Fiji, Ecuador and Costa Rica. Female sex tourism differs from male sex tourism, in that women do not usually go to specific bars. Women usually give clothes, meals, cash and gifts to their prostitutes.

 

[00Kevin]

All that the OP said is totally true. I can say the same for the mexican girl I found.

Women from other countries are good to men. It is the women in this country that are the problem. They are idiots. I honestly can't stand them anymore and they make me sick.

Just don't let the americanized woman upset you when they start to complain that you are going after mail order brides. They are just jealous and have nothing to offer a man of your quality. Most women here are very imature and only good for sex. They are hors and they have no idea what a good wife is or how to raise children.

I really have to laugh at the women I know who say that these women are just uneducated and/or have low self confidence. That however is far from the truth.

Women from other countries are more educated (usually speaking several languages) and they own much less. They also work very hard for what they do have. Usually most of their money goes to helping their parents and their family. How many americanized women do that?
Women from other countries work very hard and have very little. As a result they thankfull for every little thing they have. They know what it is like to go through hard times and they appreciate all your efforts so much more. They won't spend your money on stupid things because they know the value of it. They won't trash your good name because they don't speak badly about men all the time.

Sure they are not perfect but they are normal. Unlike all the sh-it americanized hors that I've nexted.

The OP is right when he says that the problem is with the women and not the men.

 

[00Kevin]

Ahh yes the Phillppines, I guess I might as well travel to Africa, South America, Asia and parts of Eastern Europe and have the belief that it is something wrong with women back home because in those countries I am getting some. While in actuality all those poor women in these countries see is a rich American man(you don't have to be rich but just having the means of transportation to get there and back is more then the majority of that particular country). You are just playing the economics game when in actuality if you were a millionaire in the States you wouldn't have problem attracting women either there. You simply lack game, so don't blame the entire population of women in the States because of your shortcomings.

You should be able to attract women wherever you go.

It isn't hard to attract women. The problem is trying to find a woman that you are attracted to not just physically, but mentally, emotionally, and spirtually.

I find it very easy to mess with a woman mind, but I don't find it easy to find one I can take seriously. The fact is there are far more women in other countries that you can take seriously.

Your game for north american chicks won't work on chicks from other countries. They will just think you are like all the guys they have learned to hate from their own country.

My theroy is that where there are nice girls there are bad guys and where there are bad girls there are nice guys.

 

[bigjohnson]

Look up the name .....

So effing what? I hope I'm not hearing a guy who is a frequent contributor at a place whose purpose is to help guys get into womens pants making a moral judgement about consensual activities engaged in between adults?

 

[englishman]

I hope at 70 I have more going on in my life than just travelling for sex and using Viagra to try to get it up. Old guys can barely get it up anyway.But I guess the ego will make some want to live in fantasy land that the young girl you had to take Viagra to have sex with is actually enjoying an old saggy,wrinkly body on top of hers. .


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Youll be old and wont be able to get it up one day right, thats aging, no one escapes aging!

so your not going to take Viagra or screw younger women if you have to pay for it, so what you gonna do? Just sit at home with a droopy c0ck because your philosophy on life wont allow you to take a pharmacuitical that will give you an erection?

Sounds like your gonna be playing bingo with wrinkly old bags up in Beverly Hills , while those poor delusional fvcks that you mentioned are out with viagra induced hard ons like 18 year olds and sucking on pert nubile asian tits?

Yes I see your point?

 

[szof]

I tend to think that "positive" experiences abroad like what the original poster wrote about are, in large part, due to the power discrepancy between Western and non-Western women. As a Westerner, you might make in one to three years what the average man in many countries make in his entire lifetime. Snagging a Westerner is the main means for these women to leapfrog their social standing. Therefore, they will likely become very good at learning how to snag the Westerner - social and cultural restrictions aside.

Similarly, many Western women become down right sycophants when they are seeking to land a high status male. As defined in Western cultures this will include rock stars, etc.

One grain of truth in the original poster's comments: Western women are, in general, more "closed" and less curious socially. There are many exceptions to this, however, this can be attributed in large part due to demands on time. A Western woman has many more demands on her time, generally, than a woman in the Philippines.

One of the lies I do take issue with that pervades Western cultures is that pairings should be based on anequal footing. Women are happiest when the man she is with is dominant, especially dominant over her. Power is the ultimate aphrodesiac: to women when they are subject to it and to men when they exercise it.

 

[Dark Chivalry]

So you can sit at home spanking off to the internet talking about the shame of it all or go to this warm sunny cheap place where gorgeous young women will put on a show and make you believe a bit of a fantasy in exchange for a few bucks,

so your not going to take Viagra or screw younger women if you have to pay for it, so what you gonna do? Just sit at home with a droopy c0ck because your philosophy on life wont allow you to take a pharmacuitical that will give you an erection?

So... it's all about p.ussy, huh?

The holy p.ussy?

Either you tap some ho for money or you sit at home wanking to images of hos getting tapped for money? That is all the options you have is the world?

Truth:
P.ussy is nothing.
Balls are everything.
Quit nagging and grow some balls.

Guys who need p.ussy to validate their existance and prove their manhood, yet turn down every oppertunity to grow some balls are NOT MEN.

Using p.ussy as a motivation to grow some balls.
Using paid for p.ussy as an excuse to let your nuts atrophy.

The rockstar grows balls by putting in the passion and effort to learn to play and master his instrument and by facing the fear of public speaking, insecure job and getting on top.

The businessman works long hours to get his business started, surfs through a world of risks, defeats enemies in the white collar arena. He grows balls.

The PUA approaches women in spite of the fear of rejection, exerts himself in the gym, spends time reading the words of wise men and testing theories in the field grows balls.

A REAL MAN can follow whatever road he chooses as long as he seizes or even pursues oppertunities to work up a sweat, to face his fears, to learn from other men, to take risks; to grow some balls and be a man.

Every day his balls get a little bit bigger and that, not his money, are what makes him improve with age despite his wrinkly appearance. At 70, he has accomplishment he is proud of, he has built a character like a castle, he has a son or some other young man admiring him, he knows his dad would have beamed with pride if he would be alive, his wife admiring, loving and respecting him or he can get worthwhile women, not just ***** but women he enjoys spending time with, to love and respect him with ease. In any country.

 

[englishman]

So... it's all about p.ussy, huh?

The holy p.ussy?
Truth:
P.ussy is nothing.
Balls are everything.
Quit nagging and grow some balls.
.

Pvssy is nothing? balls are everything???? wtf you on about? so you gonna grow these enormeous balls while you stick your nose in the air and walk past pvssy? Home to your house with the white picket fence... lol

Mate your telling me to grow some balls, Im telling you to get some real life experience.