Freddie Gray Protests

[SmooveMooves]

Why hasn't anyone pointed out the fact that blacks are discriminated against.... Because they commit more crimes then any other group by a decent margin?

 

[Embers84]

Funny how sh!tlib media

Your line is old and has been exposed as a lie many times. There is no "Liberal Media" when the entire mainstream media is supporting the cops without sufficient evidence. If the media was so "Liberal" and "anti white" and "anti cops" the media would be in favor of Gray trying to prove the cops as guilty. WJLA a right wing ABC affiliate, owned by the right wing Sinclair Broadcast Group, are using "their sources" to exonerate the white cops even without an investigation. WJLA is reporting their right slanted story to the ENTIRE mainstream media, who is reporting it based on their version of what they want you to hear. Not much of a "Liberal Media Bias" when the right slanted story is being reported in every media outlet being biased against blacks, Liberals, and President Obama. Another nail in the coffin for your "Liberal Media Bias" since they are being biased against liberals instead.

A career criminal with a rap sheet of 22 arrests ....You're right he was probably on his way to church and turning his life around.

Being a criminal does not give cops a right to murder a man in custody and to the people they have killed before. Sounds like you feel that is ok with your who gives a sh1t attitude. People like you, say who gives a sh1t about him, he's a black thug criminal, his life doesn't matter. To the people who know him, like his family and friends, his life does matter. That's why people are protesting because it can be their family member or friend that gets killed next, or maybe one of yours with out of control police. Who are you to determine that a person should be treated that way or a life doesn't matter? The law protects us from cruel and unusual punishment, and the cops have no right to treat citizens like animals.

What about a white collar criminal with a rap sheet that wipes out people financially? Isn't that robbing and stealing too? He gets treated with kid gloves by authorities going to a country club prison to serve out his sentence.

Did you miss the part where this career dindu in all likelihood limited himself? Another "da man(whitey)be holdin us down" fail.

That has not been determined yet, as there needs to be an investigation, but the biased conservative mainstream media has already proclaimed the white cops innocence without any true investigation that you parrot. Nice touch with the ebonics. Proven wrong once again.

Do me a favor:

1. Quote exactly where I said that people do not have the right to assemble
2. Answer my question to give an example of exactly where these people had a peaceful protest with people who can actually change the system like a city council.

For someone who who tenaciously copy and pasts information from the internet, why haven't you posted an example of a peaceful protest while meeting with people who truly matter?


But if all you can do is change the subject to some arbitrary strawman, it's no wonder that your methods veiled as "honest discussion" never advances to any type of resolution.

Please give an example where a peaceful protest was brought to city hall at a city council meeting where it could be presented to people who can actually make a change as opposed to marching on places where all that happens is that they piss off more people.

Marching on a police station won't do a thing, marching on a highway during rush hour won't do anything, having a "die-in" at a mall won't do anything, walking into restaurants and disturbing guests won't do anything. Yet, these are the places where most people meet "to be heard."

It's almost as if they don't really want anything to change. Yeah, the waitstaff at a popular eatery has the power to make their demands a reality... Either that or electing politicians who say on the news that allowing people to destroy a city is permissible. I apologize in advance for expecting that these angry people are capable of being a catalyst of change in ways other than vandalism.

You are implying here that protesting is basically a waste of time. Who are you to say that it is and people are wrong to do it? I'm saying that as Americans, we can protest over any issue that we are concerned about, and people like you who disagree it, always have something negative to say about it. I'm not changing the subject. I'm making a point, that we have a right to protest over anything that concerns us if people choose to, and it is not always violent or in vain like you're claiming. This should not be a political issue, but the right wing media is making it to be one. This is a issue about violent police targeting blacks in the community.

Again, when you have a public demonstration anybody can join the protest. If a few people decide to cause violence, that is not the fault of the peaceful protest itself, it's the individuals who are causing the violence. But then, the conservative media, and you, wants to blame the entire protest as a whole calling it an angry mob of black liberals wanting to cause destruction and mayhem to a city. That's how negative stereotypes start, and it's being reported that way by the entire conservative mainstream media.

Peaceful protests never get any coverage in the mainstream media. If they did, then people would be informed of what they are protesting for. People would support their cause if they agree with it allowing the changes to be made. That is what the news should be doing, not spinning it the other way. It's only when violence starts, the media starts to cover the protests. Then they spin it to make it look like an angry violent protest, to attack blacks and liberals, when the whole purpose was to have a peaceful demonstration in the first place.

A great example of a media black out on protesting was when the largest Anti War Protest ever occurred in DC right before Bush's Iraq War. Not one mainstream media outlet mentioned it except C-SPAN showed a small bit of coverage. If the media was so "Liberal" there would have been 24/7 coverage of getting the public to be anti war. Instead, they spun the news in support of the war trying to scare the public into supporting it. Even MSNBC fired their hosts for being anti war. Not much of a "Liberal Media' is there?

I said protesting takes time, it doesn't happen right away. Blacks continued to protest until Civil Rights were finally given, it didn't happen on the first protest. After people are committed to whatever they are protesting for, changes will finally be made, but it takes time for that to happen. When the Tea Party protests and arrests are made, then it's happening for a good cause according to the right. Also, you are pretty ignorant as well, because blacks and minorities have went to City Hall to voice their concerns over police brutality and being targeted during meetings. Black leaders have organized meetings for people to say their piece. The mainstream media doesn't care to report that because it isn't exciting for people to watch and they don't care to show it. Also, a protest can gather more people who are fighting for the same cause.

Why are you trying to change my words around to make your false claim about me changing the subject? You only focus on my introduction using that as a diversion, since I took away your argument.

Here's an article about the Tea Party protesting and being arrested on The Hill. Are you going to call their efforts a waste of time?





Tea Party activists hit the Hill, arrested outside Pelosi's office.


Washington (CNN) - GOP leaders and thousands of Tea Party movement protesters gathered on Capitol Hill Thursday to call House Democrats' health care reform bill a full-blown government takeover of the nation' health care system.

"My colleagues and I last week were wracking our brains trying to figure out what could we do, because quite simply Republicans don't have the votes to kill this bill," Rep. Michele Bachmann of Minnesota told the crowd. "Every lever of power is controlled by one party now in DC. We tried to figure out what we could do. We knew that we were limited. But what we knew was unlimited was the voice of persuasion of the American people, and that's why you are here today with your voice of persuasion.

"....Let me assure you your efforts to stop this bill are being heard loud and clear. And I will guarantee you that we are committed to making sure that not one Republican will vote for this bill."

Actor John Ratzenberger, known partly for his role as Cliff Clavin in the 1980s sitcom "Cheers," slammed the Democratic bill as a form of socialism.

"These are Woodstock Democrats," he said at the rally. "We have to remember where their philosophy comes from. It doesn't come from America. It comes from overseas. It comes from socialism. And socialism is a philosophy of failure."

Police later arrested 12 protesters outside Pelosi's office for unlawful entry or disorderly conduct, according to Capitol Hill police spokeswoman Sgt. Kimberly Schneider.

Democrats have rejected an alternative $60 billion House GOP reform plan as inadequate for meeting the goals of expanding health coverage to most of the nation's 46 million uninsured while bringing down costs and ending controversial industry practices such as denying coverage for pre-existing conditions.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...hit-the-hill-arrested-outside-pelosis-office/

 

[Tenacity]

I honestly hate that these threads keep getting closed down. I don't know if they are in violation of Sosuave Terms and Conditions or not (I also don't know if I'm in violation or not), however, we NEED to have these types of discussions.

What I find insane is how this country can be so divided over issues like this:

- People like me see the issue more as a Class War problem, with people of lower class rank typically making decisions that aren't prudent that's causing the majority of their issues.

- While people on the other side see it more as a Race War problem, where despite of any "well-doing" or "good choices" that one can make, they are still going to deal with said issues due to their Race period.

While I do get a little fired up when discussing this, my goal is to have a discussion. Maybe I can learn something from the other side that I don't know, or maybe the other side can learn something from me that they don't know, or both could occur?

But if the threads keep getting shut down, then we are unable to truly have a discussion about these topics and THAT is what I think is the main important thing here. I want Embers, Jaylan and that side to truly understand WHERE I'm coming from, which is not from a "racist" perspective because how can I be black and be racist against other blacks? That makes no sense.

If anything I'm discriminating against a certain type of black person (ghetto), so maybe you could say I'm practicing discrimination which would be totally true but WHO doesn't practice it? Everytime you make a choice to not eat at a certain low quality restaurant and choose an upper scale one down the street, you are discriminating. Everytime you make a choice not to shop at a certain store due to their bad service and choose another store, you are discriminating. Is discrimination in and of itself, bad? Or is it just about a personal preference?

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/discrimination

discrimination
noun dis·crim·i·na·tion \dis-ˌkri-mə-ˈnā-shən\
: the practice of unfairly treating a person or group of people differently from other people or groups of people

: the ability to recognize the difference between things that are of good quality and those that are not

: the ability to understand that one thing is different from another thing

 

[speed dawg]

What I find insane is how this country can be so divided over issues like this:

- People like me see the issue more as a Class War problem, with people of lower class rank typically making decisions that aren't prudent that's causing the majority of their issues.

- While people on the other side see it more as a Race War problem, where despite of any "well-doing" or "good choices" that one can make, they are still going to deal with said issues due to their Race period.

My friend, I will tell you why.

If we were to call this a Class War problem, there is no way for the allegedly oppressed people to become a protected class. Actually, yes there is, and it has already been taken care of by...........welfare. If you make under a certain level, you are protected and you get free stuff. Problem solved.

That did not keep people from complaining though. It theoretically solved their dilemma, but they still weren't happy.

Now, how can bottom dwelling people CONTINUE to milk the system? Create more of a protection veil. Here comes RACE into the discussion. Gender is there, now sexuality wants a piece of the pie. We are all being discriminated against, we need to be COMPENSATED. Going to be hard to make the sexuality deal fly though, because there is no way to gauge it. It is not an outward appearance like race or gender, and not a measurable statistic like income.

Notice the word COMPENSATED. That is what this is about. Financial advantage.

While I do get a little fired up when discussing this, my goal is to have a discussion. Maybe I can learn something from the other side that I don't know, or maybe the other side can learn something from me that they don't know, or both could occur?

Dude, you will NEVER have a civil discussion about this stuff when it involves someone's money. This is all a big financial negotiation for folks who like to milk the system. That is why amoke, Embers84 and Gaylander are so passionate about it.......they are attempting to secure and preserve the affirmative action advantage and protected status they possess.

But at the end of the day, none of this matters when it comes to REAL success or self-worth. Blacks and whites only squabble over scraps and affirmative action when it comes to government jobs and political stupidity. Essentially stuff that is not needed to begin with. When it comes down to really high level corporations and jobs like that where the demand is high, where you are truly gauged on how good you are, then social issues go out the window. It's all about how well you generate money. You have to be smart, and you have to work hard. If you are in a workplace that can afford to hand out such and such % to a 'disadvantaged' company, man, you aren't really in a field that appreciates what you do.

Same for if you started your own company. Bottom line is how much money can you make. Race doesn't matter at all. YOU have to convince people of your value.

 

[Tictac]

You cannot have a civil discussion with proggies that believe that as long as they cut, paste, type and change the argument to suit their whim that they don't 'lose the argument'.

They lost the argument before they started typing. They are filling Alan's servers with sh*t to try to make themselves feel good about themselves - a hopeless task.

 

[Stagger Lee]

But at the end of the day, none of this matters when it comes to REAL success or self-worth. Blacks and whites only squabble over scraps and affirmative action when it comes to government jobs and political stupidity. Essentially stuff that is not needed to begin with. When it comes down to really high level corporations and jobs like that where the demand is high, where you are truly gauged on how good you are, then social issues go out the window. It's all about how well you generate money. You have to be smart, and you have to work hard. If you are in a workplace that can afford to hand out such and such % to a 'disadvantaged' company, man, you aren't really in a field that appreciates what you do.

We agree on a lot but I have to really disagree with dieversity and affirmative action isn't a factor in the private sector. It is a huge factor in education to get to these jobs in the private sector. It's a factor in who companies hire , retain and promote. Government is about half of the economy and even a higher ratio of the good jobs, so even that is much more than scraps.

In theory the Civil rights Act, Equal Employment Opportunity and other laws don't require affirmative action in the private sector, but in practice it does and every corporation and most every business I've seen enforces it about as bad or worse as the government sector. They all "voluntarily" follow an affirmative action policy. If a private company doesn't decide hiring, retention and promotion for the "right" reasons or the "right" percentage of females and non-whites, the EEOC will threaten a lawsuit and actually sue on the theory of disparate impact, and/or activist like Sharpton will demand a pay off and a "voluntary" agreement to increase dieversity will be agreed to.

Affirmative Action and the policy of dieversity is absolutely in effect in the private sector. Business elites and human resource depts. promote diversity and discriminate against males and whites as much as anyone. You agree, that whites out of jealousy try to hold down other whites. This includes the private sector.

 

[Maximus Rex]

Tenacity, You Were Out of Line, Bruh

When people like myself, Ben Carson, Herman Cain and Armstrong Williams are constantly thrown out there as being Uncle Toms and "haters" of the black race because we promote personal responsibility, I'm seriously wondering WHY that is?

How can black people look at a Ben Carson, a Herman Cain and an Armstrong Williams, and not be PROUD of these black men? These black men who went through the hell, fire and brimstone and still managed to become successful LEGAL business owners?

Not for nothing, I've heard Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson say they same damn thing, (along with the host of other black "leaders,") but as the white supremacists say certain things just don't get press, when Al Sharpton is at a town hall meeting about violence in the community that doesn't generate press either.

Out of common courtesy, I keep PM's private because I'm assuming that the person who sends me one whats to have a personal one-on-one conversation with me. However, this time is an exception.

The above is a PM that Tenacity sent to me the on the 30th, which I planned on responding to, but this muthaf*cka has a b*tch fit and has nerve enough to wonder why ya boy Rex didn't respond to him in what he deemed to be a timely fashion.

Tenacity, in case you wanted to know, I wasn't ducking you, but here's the reason why I didn't hit you back more quickly. You see, Rex has one of things that he even hopes the white supremacists that dwell on this site have and that something is called a life.

Unlike you, I don't sit online all day tommin' coonin' and indulging in self hate while searching for the approval of anonymous racists, segregationists, and white supremacists on a little known pickup artist message board. I live in New York City and I actually try to pick up women. Even though it's allergy season, the weather has finally broke, and I like being outside, hollerin' at chicks, having a drink with friends, smoking a cigar, and just enjoying life.

However, this is the real reason I had a problem with that b*tch said you said, you don't why didn't respond to you. Had it occurred to you that maybe I had a prior engagement? A wedding to go to. An emergency popped up, or God forbid there was a death in my family. No, it hadn't. That's why I don't like indulging in these kinda of conversations because you're dealing with people who don't like black people anyway, (or in the case of Tenacity, a self hating negro, assuming of course that he's even an African American,) who supports their "arguments," with faulty, irrational, biased logic, facts, and statistics. These muthaf*ckas have no interest in the truth or solving America's race problem, they want the nation to revert back to Jim Crow status.

There begs a question that needs to be answered, why is this white supremacist rhetoric even tolerated on this site? I always cite the example of PlayaHer Man, not because I'm a fan of writings, but to point out the hypocrisy of this site. Dude was banned because the moderators didn't like the tone of his message, but the same six dudes are allowed on weekly basis to post racist threads with impunity. However, when I posted this scholarly article, The History of Negative Black Stereotypes http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=222799. My thread was closed. Instead of closing threads, why not just banned the trouble makers on the site.

To answer your initial question Tenacity, if you don't understand the narrative of white supremacy and how it effects you today as explained by Dr. Umar Johnson and Tariq Nasheed, (cats who are far more eloquent than me,) then there's nothing I can tell you, that will give make you understand. There's a historical context to this sh*t, though strides have been made, there are those who wish to keep blacks as a permanent underclass in America, and that's evident by the threads and posts that I see on a constant basis on this forum.

How can black people take someone like myself, who at one point was homeless and comes from a broken family, who overcame all of that shyt and put myself through college (MBA and 3 bachelor's) as well as has been successful in my B2B Sales Career?

Isn't this what the entire Civil Rights Movement was about? Wasn't it about DESPITE the odds, the situation in front of you and the bad hand you were dealt...with faith, believing in yourself and operating in the free market system (supply/demand), you can make a better life for yourself and those around you? That your COLOR isn't a roadblock, and if even people tried to make it out to be as one, that your VALUE to the marketplace could overcome it? Wasn't this what the hell all of the Civil Rights marching was for??

But yet, people like ME, are the enemy to black people? People like myself, Cain, Carson, etc. are the examples of the GOOD that black men do in America. What kids have we created that we don't Father? What drugs do we sell that kill our own people? What crime do we commit against our own "brother"? What rap songs do we make that promote irresponsible shyt? Please tell me?

Having to deal with the Cops constantly, because they are consistently doing DUMB SHYT

- Having to deal with Judges in Court constantly, because they are consistently in front of them for doing DUMB SHYT

- Having to deal with raising 5 kids alone on welfare, because they are consistently doing DUMB SHYT like having kids by Tyrone and Bo Bo

- Having to deal with bill collectors calling their house every hour of the day from strange 800 numbers because they NEVER pay their bills

- Having to deal with eviction notices from their Landlords in PROJECT HOUSING UNITS because despite getting a subsidy they STILL can't afford the $200 monthly rent payment

- Having to stand in the long welfare line to get more welfare

- Having to wait until "the first of the month" to get their EBT deposits, which means if they run out of food on the 28th then they will have to STARVE for the next two or three days.

- Signing up for "free college" just to get the Stafford Student Loan Check, then dropping out of College and using the loan money to buy drugs and drinks.

- Having to go to funeral after funeral after funeral of a friend or family member who got "shot down out hur in dem streets son"

- Living generation after generation after generation in the FVCKING ghetto because getting a higher education and making a career plan is "acting white".

You want to know why get called a tom and coon, because you say dumb a$$ self hating sh*t like that as if these problems are only exclusive to white people.

White people who constantly commit crimes are constantly in front of a judge. White people who live beyond there means have bill collectors calling them.

Poor whites generally don't live urban areas, so you won't see them living in the projects, however, if you go to areas where they do live and they're living beyond their means, (or they're getting high,) I would that they're facing eviction too.

White people are involved in fraud too bruh. White are on welfare. White people get murdered too, and poor people in general have problems with generational poverty. That only thing that you listed that is an overwhelming black problem is the illegitimacy rate.

But yet gangsta rappers, thugs, drug dealers and ratchet blacks are given SAINT HOOD all day and everyday. Their ratchet behavior is given a pass because they are supposedly, only "ratchet" because WHITE SUPREMACY has held them down and made them that way?

Who is giving them sainthood, black people have been talking about the lyrics in rap songs since Straight Outta Compton.

Well, if that's the case, why the fvck am I not ratchet? I grew up in Flint, MI and was homeless at one point in time, it doesn't get any WORSE than that. What about Carson and Cain and the rest of them who came up when there was REAL WHITE SUPREMACY on the forefront, why aren't they ratchet?

Why wasn't there an investment made on the part of the government to address the concerns that lead to riots in Flint, Detroit, and other American cities that lead to those cities being burned to the ground? That sh*t didn't happen in a vacuum.

This is what I don't get, and hopefully Jaylan and the "Pro Black" crew fill me in on this. I have tried to have discussions with them privately, such as the PM I sent to Maximus the other day, but I got no response. So that's telling me that these guys really don't want to have a serious conversation.

 

[Maximus Rex]

Lol, hey look man, I'm just trying to understand you guys. You and Jaylan come with a very Pro Black narrative, similar to people such as Dr. Umer Johnson or Tariq Nasheed as of late, and I just don't understand that narrative.

You seem to believe that the Cops are set out to kill black men, but I'm a black man, and I haven't experienced that. Furthermore, the people that the Cops are killing that are black, fair and above are criminals, that is, black men doing criminal behavior.

I don't think the Cops are 100% legit, I never said that. But what I don't get is why is the Pro Black Movement using Criminals as the face of a Movement to expose how the Cops aren't legit? Wouldn't it make sense to as I said, find a black guy LIKE ME...stand up guy, does nothing wrong, and all of a sudden I'm beaten by the Cops for no reason? Wouldn't that prove your point?

I'm a Black Republican, I'm a Moderate Republican, not a far right Republican. And as a result, I don't just go along with whatever the black narrative is. And what's pissing me off in the country today is that "black issues" always seem to center around helping criminals have an easier life with the Cops and the Criminal Justice System, and I'm sick of that shyt.

I'm sick of Criminals being the face of Black Men.

Out of common courtesy, I keep PM's private because I'm assuming that the person who sends me one whats to have a personal one-on-one conversation with me. However, this time is an exception.

The above is a PM that Tenacity sent to me the on the 30th, which I planned on responding to, but this muthaf*cka has a b*tch fit and has nerve enough to wonder why ya boy Rex didn't respond to him in what he deemed to be a timely fashion.

Tenacity, in case you wanted to know, I wasn't ducking you, but here's the reason why I didn't hit you back more quickly. You see, Rex has one of things that he even hopes the white supremacists that dwell on this site have and that something is called a life.

Unlike you, I don't sit online all day tommin' coonin' and indulging in self hate while searching for the approval of anonymous racists, segregationists, and white supremacists on a little known pickup artist message board. I live in New York City and I actually try to pick up women. Even though it's allergy season, the weather has finally broke, and I like being outside, hollerin' at chicks, having a drink with friends, smoking a cigar, and just enjoying life.

However, this is the real reason I had a problem with that b*tch said you said, you don't why didn't respond to you. Had it occurred to you that maybe I had a prior engagement? A wedding to go to. An emergency popped up, or God forbid there was a death in my family. No, it hadn't. That's why I don't like indulging in these kinda of conversations because you're dealing with people who don't like black people anyway, (or in the case of Tenacity, a self hating negro, assuming of course that he's even an African American,) who supports their "arguments," with faulty, irrational, biased logic, facts, and statistics. These muthaf*ckas have no interest in the truth or solving America's race problem, they want the nation to revert back to Jim Crow status.

There begs a question that needs to be answered, why is this white supremacist rhetoric even tolerated on this site? I always cite the example of PlayaHer Man, not because I'm a fan of writings, but to point out the hypocrisy of this site. Dude was banned because the moderators didn't like the tone of his message, but the same six dudes are allowed on weekly basis to post racist threads with impunity. However, when I posted this scholarly article, The History of Negative Black Stereotypes http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=222799. My thread was closed. Instead of closing threads, why not just banned the trouble makers on the site.

To answer your initial question Tenacity, if you don't understand the narrative of white supremacy and how it effects you today as explained by Dr. Umar Johnson and Tariq Nasheed, (cats who are far more eloquent than me,) then there's nothing I can tell you, that will give make you understand. There's a historical context to this sh*t, though strides have been made, there are those who wish to keep blacks as a permanent underclass in America, and that's evident by the threads and posts that I see on a constant basis on this forum.

 

[Jaylan]

There begs a question that needs to be answered, why is this white supremacist rhetoric even tolerated on this site? I always cite the example of PlayaHer Man, not because I'm a fan of writings, but to point out the hypocrisy of this site. Dude was banned because the moderators didn't like the tone of his message, but the same six dudes are allowed on weekly basis to post racist threads with impunity. However, when I posted this scholarly article, The History of Negative Black Stereotypes http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=222799. My thread was closed. Instead of closing threads, why not just banned the trouble makers on the site.

First, let me say that it does appear that the moderation team is holding things down ok even since Allen sought out new ones to help out. But allow me to address what you said about your thread.

Ive said it before, others have said it as well, and Ill say it again. It did seem as if thread moderation may have been biased in the past with regard to what threads get closed quickly, or left open to run on for several pages.

Ive brought this up to a mod or two in the past, and the response has generally been that they try to leave communication freely open and flowing. Im all for that, but it still puzzled me.

Rex created a thread to thoughtfully discuss the history of black stereotypes and the thread is shut down after a few posts. Playherman is banned for inflammatory language. Yet certain posters are always allowed to create repetitive threads as a way to start pages long flame wars about different minority groups.

Why not just make the conversations as free and as open as possible instead? Like I said before, with the new mods in place, it seems that Allen has taken initiatives to clean things up a bit though.

 

[( . )( . )]

Playherman is banned for inflammatory language.

:crackup: Playherman was banned because his language inflammed YOU gaylan. Lets not forget who spammed "report bad post" after each and every time he used the dreaded "beta faggot" or didn't portray chicks as always full of sweetness and light.

Yet certain posters are always allowed to create repetitive threads as a way to start pages long flame wars about different minority groups.

You mean you and amoka continually crying to the mods that there's white men walking off the reservation and discussing current events you both would rather they didn't isn't always getting the thread shutdown? How about we call a spade a spade eh?

 

[Tictac]

I noticed Gaylan/FatalGay, Milkshake, Max and the other proggie droolers were so very concerned when a career criminal and thug murdered a NYC police officer in his cruiser in Queens over the weekend.

It's okay boys, he deserved it, right? After all, he was a police officer.

No demonstrations, no statements, no riots. Just a member of the thin blue line snuffed by a 'social justice' advocate.

 

[Stagger Lee]

Liberal definition of white supremacy: Anyone not wanting to be reduced to a 2nd class citizen and an unprotected minority through immigration in their own formerly white homeland.

Ethopian jews today rioted against the police in Israel http://www.mailtribune.com/article/ZZ/20150503/NEWS/150509960 . Are jews getting a taste of their own multiculturalism medicine? Got dieversity? Got problems.

 

[TheVirtualMind]

So, if anyone actually cares what it has been like in Baltimore City, feel free to let me know instead of just assuming stuff based on what the media wants to put out.

 

[Bokanovsky]

So, if anyone actually cares what it has been like in Baltimore City, feel free to let me know instead of just assuming stuff based on what the media wants to put out.

Let's hear it.

 

[Maximus Rex]

Again, Yiu Don't Know What The F*ck Your Talking About

I noticed Gaylan/FatalGay, Milkshake, Max and the other proggie droolers were so very concerned when a career criminal and thug murdered a NYC police officer in his cruiser in Queens over the weekend.

It's okay boys, he deserved it, right? After all, he was a police officer.

No demonstrations, no statements, no riots. Just a member of the thin blue line snuffed by a 'social justice' advocate.

I live in NYC, no cops got murdered over the weekend. I notice you have this tendency to to regurgiate random **** without knowing whether or not it's true.

 

[Tenacity]

I am starting to think that I'm just wasting my time having a conversation with Rex, Jaylan, Embers and the others, because you can't have a conversation when people aren't even addressing the content of your argument but instead making ad hominem attacks.

Every response is, "You are a coon, you are a racist, you are an Uncle Tom, you are a white person svck up," all based on the notion of me posting on an Internet Discussion Forum that I believe there's two sides to the problem.

- The two sides to the problem is that you have an out of control black community with too many thugs and ratchetness going on, and you have Cops that are going above and beyond to detain them. They want to focus only on the side of the Cops being wrong in over-detainment, which is correct, but say NOTHING about the personal choices of the ratchet blacks in the area.

- They even go as far to make an excuse for those ratchet blacks saying they are only ratchet due to white supremacy. So damn, if we can't get them to take some responsibility for their own actions, how the hell are we supposed to correct it? White Supremacy and some white guy in the bushes across town, make you DO all of this ratchet shyt on a daily basis? You have got to be kidding me.

- Then going with their "White Supremacy makes me do bad shyt" argument, I say how did blacks such as myself and others who grew up in bad conditions make it out then? They say, well, it had nothing to do with your own hard work and good choices, you made it out because you are a TOKEN and white people pulled you out to make it seem like racism is over. But when I point out that I paid my own way through college, I work in sales which is based on SELLING AND PERFORMANCE, they say literally nothing. There's no way a white man could have picked me to be a token, if I don't SELL (which is to people I have no previous relationship with) I don't EAT.

- Furthermore, I talked about how we are more in a Class War than a Race War today, which means that the lower class of black people (and white people) are the ones that will usually have to deal with the Cops and Criminal Justice System moreso than any Middle Class person would, based solely on the higher crime rates and higher amounts of criminal activity that takes place in that area. That's not a Race thing, that's a Class thing.

But instead of addressing the points I'm making, it's just more of, "You are a racist, you are a coon, you svck up to the white man, etc.". This is why we can never have a conversation. I was polite for the most part with Jaylan and Max, I even PM'ed them to have a conversation, but they don't want to have a conversation. If you are black, you are supposed to be going along with whatever the liberal narrative is and if you don't, that ALONE makes you all of these names they call you.

It's stupid and childish, as a result, I'm just not entertaining this anymore. I mean none of these guys respond addressing any of the points I'm making so it's pointless.

 

[Tictac]

I live in NYC, no cops got murdered over the weekend. I notice you have this tendency to to regurgiate random **** without knowing whether or not it's true.

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I notice you don't have a clue and type out of your a**.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2015/05/04/new-york-cop-shot-dies/26882511/

http://m.kmbc.com/national/nypd-officer-who-was-shot-in-head-dies/32810974

http://www.wsj.com/articles/new-york-city-police-officer-shot-in-face-dies-1430758807

http://news.yahoo.com/york-police-officer-shot-head-dies-injuries-newspaper-170006328.html

 

[Jaylan]

So a criminal killing a cop excuses a thug cop killing and abusing unarmed people?

The criminal will go to jail for life. Cops are rarely held accountable. That's why people around the country are upset.

The situations are not analogous. But nice try.

I don't see how what happened in Nyc has anything to do with the continued fvk ups by the BPD. They've lost over 100 cases in court in the last few years. Tell me how do these cops keeping their job and not going to jail, has anything to do with a criminal in NYC actually being held accountable.


http://data.baltimoresun.com/news/police-settlements/

 

[Tictac]

So a criminal killing a cop excuses a thug cop killing and abusing unarmed people?

The criminal will go to jail for life. Cops are rarely held accountable. That's why people around the country are upset.

The situations are not analogous. But nice try.

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It's just a life Gaylan/FatalGay.

But not one you give a sh*t about.

Like I said, your and your outrage queen entourage 'concern' is touching.

Not analogous. Pfft. Life matters gay boy.

 

[Jaylan]

Then if unarmed people being killed by police is just a life, then so is a criminal killing a cop. Innocent life is innocent life, but the justice system treats lives differently depending on the uniform. Hell an NYPD officer killed 22 yr old unarmed national guardsman at a traffic stop a few years back and got off scott free with that bs"I though he was going for his gun" story.

There are innocent people like Kelly Thomas, John Geer, John Crawford, Rekia Boyd and others killed by police with no one held accountable. Don't try to get peeople to be up in arms aboutt cop killings when those perps always go to prison.

Cops kill a hell of a lot more unarmed civilians than civilians kill cops...but somehow you think it's logical to deflect attention away from a lack of police accountability in Baltimore, and onto criminals who are held accountable in Nyc.

The idiocy of old foggie right wing thinking. Your generation can't turnover soon enough.