Freddie Gray Protests

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Embers84 said:
Police brutality exists Tictac....Don't deny it.
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One of the most consistent features of proglib droolers like you Embers is that you attempt to place thoughts in someone else's head and then try to beat them up over the thoughts that you say are in their heads because you typed them.

You, Gaylan/FatalGay, amoka, Rex, Milkshake all do it. It is in virtually everything you type. You constantly demonstrate that you are intellectual Pygmies and infantile solipsists.

Among the many failures proglibs like you will continue to experience in your pathetic lives, is continuous and continual failure to understand other people and other situations. This happens because you are busy declaring what reality is and then going into another round of impotent rage when it does not conform to your specifications. Yours in the province of the 4-year old spoiled brat.

Proglibs cannot make an argument. So they attempt to tell other people what they think and argue with themselves - with what proglibs 'believe' and what proglibs ascribe to others.

To wit. I would like you to find any evidence that I ever said that police brutality does not exist. You can't because I never said it.
 

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Danger said:
Tits and tictac nail it.

When yo uask the tough questions......

Crickets. Every. Time.

Jaylan talked about how we SHOULD be teaching morality in schools. When I asked him what happens when the wrong party gets into power and teaches their morality? Silence.

I ask them again, is there ever any situation where a white person wants a homeland for their race and that person is not a white supremacist? Again, silence.

They have no capacity to understand the impact of their decisions or thoughts, nor do they even understand the meanings of words. They are a cesspool of liberal feelz and will attack you with those rage feelz whenever they can, and scatter when the light of logical questions lands on top of them.
^^^ This right here.

I know I said I was done, but The Jaylan Crew's argument is either based on Option One or Option Two.

Option One: They are completely emotional in relation to their debating stances, which makes it hard for them to have logic and ration.

Option Two: OR, they are just disingenuous and have an ulterior motive. This means that they are only making these stances because they feel they have to protect someone or some group for (insert whatever reason here).

I honestly believe it's Option Two, which is the case of what I call the "Educated Liberal". You see it makes sense for a thug, criminal or drug dealer to get up here and make the arguments that they make, but why would supposed educated black men fight so hard to protect criminals while fighting hard to have black conservatives HUNG from a tree? It's because there's some ulterior motive here. Lol, if Herman Cain was treated unfairly by the Police, do you think these same Pro Black people would care? Hell no.

What I honestly believe is that they believe "white people" aren't playing fair overall and it's hurting their progression as "educated blacks". Thus, they want to find anything to slam white people with, even if that means supporting a criminal that they believe white people treated injusticely. Also a black conservative to them is basically a white person with a darker tan, that's why you NEVER see them defending a black conservative on anything, they want black conservatives HUNG and shot down just like they want white people hung and shot down.

Again, I think this is all coming from a personal issue that they have with white people in their personal lives, where perhaps they are trying to ACCOMPLISH a particular goal but feel as though they can't because white people won't allow them. Thus, they are on this crusade against white people.

This is what I think this entire Pro Black Movement is about.

- Because as I stated before, any logic or ration would say that if you had White Supremacy, then go create Black Supremacy. Take "the white man's money" from working in his middle class position, pool your money together, and go somewhere and setup your Black Supremacy Island/Country instead of continuing to wait for White Supremacy to share their "supremacy" with you.

- Also it's clear as day you have different sub-cultures within a Race. You have Black People and Black Trash. You have the Black Middle Class and the Black Lower Class. I don't understand how anybody can disagree with that? And the issues of the Black Lower Class are totally different than that of the Black Middle Class, MAINLY (not totally, but mainly) stemming from the high amounts of violence and drug related activity within the area. Now how can anybody disagree with something like this?

- Also it's clear as day this is not 1945. If there's any amount of institutionalized racism it would be like the size of a PEA compared to the WATERMELON sized racism that was in play in 1945. To claim that shyt is stopping you from achieving anything, when you have programs such as Pell Grants, Affirmative Action, even the entire Welfare System, designed to help you move UP out of poverty into some sort of skilled trades, is just insane. They bring up examples of being followed in the store, dude if this was 1945 you wouldn't of been allowed IN the store. Who DF cares if they are following you? When they see you aren't stealing shyt they will get tired of following you and follow someone else.

There's no white people standing in your way Jaylan Crew, pool your money together and go start your Black Supremacy Lemonade stand, or create your Black Supremacy IT product and sell it all over the globe. I'm so sick and tired of Blacks talking about White Supremacy and using that bullshyt as a crutch.
 

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Lol these guys can't stand it that there are a bunch of posters here who don't buy into their right wing bull. We provide evidence of police brutality and that's it's a problem that needs fixing and they run away from addressing the articles and interviews presented. Is it so hard to admit theres a policing issue across the country that needs addressing?

Also notice how Espi and Logicallefty both agree with what's happened to these 6 officers, but none of the right wingers have challenged them. You have an actual cop here who admits there's a problem with some officers across the country...yet certain posters still don't wanna see reality. It would appear that they don't dare challenge mods with the attitude given to other posters. Could you imagine the angry and frustrated responses id receive if I acted as glad and ecstatic as Espi did about the riots and arrests of the officers in his first post ?

Anyways, these cops could be proven without a doubt to be responsible for Freddiee Grays death in court, and many right wingers would still defend them. They all have their own lawyers right now, can't keep a story straight, and are looking out for their own individual best interest. These officers are going to turn on each other and at least half of them are going to prison...thats my prediction.
 

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Jaylan said:
Lol these guys can't stand it that there are a bunch of posters here who don't buy into their right wing bull. We provide evidence of police brutality and that's it's a problem that needs fixing and they run away from addressing the articles and interviews presented. Is it so hard to admit theres a policing issue across the country that needs addressing?

Also notice how Espi and Logicallefty both agree with what's happened to these 6 officers, but none of the right wingers have challenged them. You have an actual cop here who admits there's a problem with some officers across the country...yet certain posters still don't wanna see reality. It would appear that they don't dare challenge mods with the attitude given to other posters. Could you imagine the angry and frustrated responses id receive if I acted as glad and ecstatic as Espi did about the riots and arrests of the officers in his first post ?

Anyways, these cops could be proven without a doubt to be responsible for Freddiee Grays death in court, and many right wingers would still defend them. They all have their own lawyers right now, can't keep a story straight, and are looking out for their own individual best interest. These officers are going to turn on each other and at least half of them are going to prison...thats my prediction.

I have explained the problem in full detail, it's not a one-sided problem, it's a two headed monster. Once again:

- You have an out of control area full of ratchet, ghetto, violent thugs and other criminals. Thug culture is how they get down.

- You have Police that are over-detaining these individuals in these areas because they have already been told that the place is a danger zone, so they usually jump to more drastic measures to detain them than needed.

That's the problem in a nutshell, which is totally a Class Based Problem, because in the Middle Class areas you rarely even see a Police Officer at all due to the fact there's just not a lot of violence taking place. It's also why the "Police Shootings" are BY AND LARGE happenings in these lower class/violence-ridden areas. It's why I told Max to give me a report of this happening to a Middle Class black guy and he couldn't produce it, the shyt is a CLASS BASED PROBLEM, not a RACE BASED ONE.

The way to solve the problem, is that you first clean up the community from the ghetto, ratchet, drug dealing and gangsta culture. HOW to do that is what we can debate on, I'm open for that debate on HOW to do it.

Once you do that, the area's reputation will begin to change, which will require LESS policemen to patrol the area and the ones patrolling it will be less likely to use drastic measures if detainment is required.

This is common sense man.

Furthermore, I don't know why the hell anybody wants to be a Cop today. You sign up for this shyt and they send you to patrol these totally FVCKED up areas, then if you get into a struggle with one of these violent pieces of shyt and shoot them, or taze them, then YOU are the one that's the fvcking evil-doer, not the damn career criminal.

If I were the Cops patrolling these areas, I would just walk the fvck off the job. Fvck it.
 

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Tenacity said:
the shyt is a CLASS BASED PROBLEM, not a RACE BASED ONE.
I have always said the same thing. Race is disappearing. It will be gone entirely in a few hundred years, provided society continues. However, class differences are growing. That is the conflict of the future.
 

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The only groups significantly doing anything to blacks is black leaders and the black criminal element. In other words, themselves.

Whites, on the other hand, are being attacked from every angle. As a straight American white male, you start at the bottom of the classes behind "people of color", females, gays, foreigners etc. Only through avoiding any criminal or even quasi-criminal record, superior intelligence, superior social skills, looks, working harder and luck can you raise up from the bottom of the classes. You have to be able to accomplish this all alone, with everyone against you. To ask for a level playing field or for your fellow whites to not be against you too is considered White Supremacy.
 

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Danger said:
I don't think people disagree that there are problems with some cops, just as there are problems with some blacks, some whites, some Mexicans, etc,...


The challenge here, and this is ANOTHER question you avoided, is that you stated there was a "hate filled Baltimore PD". You were asked multiple times to provide evidence and......crickets.

Are you ever going to answer these questions?
Ive provided you with links and the names of authors and journalists. You got your answer, but refused to go read. Is it my fault that you are refusing to take in that information?

Embers has pointed this out before with regard to you and some others here...that it doesnt matter what facts you are given, youll dismiss them if they dont reaffirm your close minded world view. Go read all the links Ive provided in this and the other Baltimore thread. Read the entire articles and interviews, word for word. Then go and read from the author and journalist I recommended to you.

You want me to copy and paste more links and quotes for you, when you didnt even read or directly address the other links and quotes I presented in these Baltimore threads? Come on now. Go freaking read what has been given to you, and then go do a simple google search of the names I gave you before. Youll find interesting information on pages 1 through 3.

This is the last time Ill address your dismissive and lazy information seeking. You can keep saying I didnt back up what I said all you want, but anyone who takes to time to read these threads post by post, will see that you lot have been given plenty of facts to look through. And whenever those facts are presented, the replies to them are simply filled with angry hyperbole and insult...mixed with baseless accusations in order to save face in front of your right wing friends.

Happy reading.
 

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Gaylan,

From my initial to my last posts here, I have made a simple point that you refuse to acknowledge must less address.

Read this again - try not to let your lips move as you do. Then answer it or STFU.
Embers (and other outrage queens),

The mayor and the city council appoint the Police Commissioner. The Police Commissioner hires/fires manages the Chief of Police. The Chief of Police hires/fires manages the police officers that make up the Police Department.

Voters, citizens and taxpayers get the police force that their elected officials provide for them.

People do not suddenly decide to declare themselves police officers, don the uniform and badge and proceed to beat people up with impunity.

So peddle your short-sighted, faux outrage somewhere else. Elected politicians are accountable for the people they hire, fire and manage to provide the services that voters, citizens and taxpayers elect them to provide.

The cops are doing no more than those who manage them allow them do do. All of your pathetic whining, shucking and jiving cannot change this incontrovertible fact.
 

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Bible_Belt said:
I have always said the same thing. Race is disappearing. It will be gone entirely in a few hundred years, provided society continues. However, class differences are growing. That is the conflict of the future.
Yeah you do keep saying that and it's bullsh!t. I've noticed weak whytes love to repeat the "race is disappearing so what does it matter sh!tlord" mantra. Like it's some weirdass justification to flood white countries with ideologically incompatible r-selected, low IQ black and brown races.

Wrong!

The only race statistically set to become extinct are white gentiles. India will still be there full of Indians, Israel will still be there full of jews, Africa will still be there full of Africans, China still full of Chinese etc. Stop saying we are all set to become favela packed blending of coffee colored mystery meats. We're not. That's just the future our handlers have in store for white countries.
 
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speed dawg said:
Amoka - simple question:

Do black people (as a whole) commit more or less violent crime per capita than other races in the United States?
Crickets chirping.
 
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