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RazorAzoth said:
No, you should've told her to hit the road because you have to get up early in the morning and blow her off. If she's saying "STOP" and "NO" in less than 5 minutes into sex, she's not into you and has other motives.

I'm far from a DJ, but it doesn't take a DJ to see that.
I couldn't tell her to leave. She was stuck at my place because I was her ride. And she already knew I didn't have to work today.

This morning she said she wanted to cook for me tonight so I was nice to her all day thinking I'd tap it tonight. Then this afternoon she changed her story and said she had plans to go out with her friend.

At THAT point is when I had enough and dropped everything we were doing and said "let's go".

Dropped her off and didn't look in my rearview mirror.
 

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Maybe you should try Target next time? Women there might be more sane. ;)
 
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RazorAzoth said:
Maybe you should try Target next time? Women there might be more sane. ;)

It doesn't matter where you meet them anymore. I thought this one would be different since it I met her offline. As it turns out she is the most crazy of them all.

The majority of women are psycho these days.
 

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i would cut this off one for a little bit bro that or next time you make plans tell her, "if you expect to keep hangin with me your gonna need to perform better" something along the lines of telling that hoe that it wasn't cool that she fuuxked you for 5 minutes and then pretty much said **** it.
 
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Alphamale1821 said:
i would cut this off one for a little bit bro
That won't be a problem since she's leaving town soon for 2 months. What's my next move?

Oh god... don't make me say it... should I go "No Contact"??? :crazy:
 

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Yeah, this is weird and it's weirder that she acted like everything's normal and is now going clubbing instead of making it up to you. Obviously noone here has the full picture unless you provide video evidence, but you gotta let her know that wasn't right.

I personally have actually been with a girl who acted similar to that, and it turned out she had a medical issue that was causing her pain during intercourse. She was hiding it from me. So yeah, infinite reasons for this strangeness and the burden of explanation should be on her.
 
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Prod said:
I personally have actually been with a girl who acted similar to that, and it turned out she had a medical issue that was causing her pain during intercourse. She was hiding it from me. So yeah, infinite reasons for this strangeness and the burden of explanation should be on her.
Hmm, that makes sense. Maybe she has a medical condition. What was the condition?
 

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Vlad the Impaler said:
I don't think she cummed but I didn't ask. I asked her why, she says she wants to sleep.

Here's the weirdest part. I was doing it missionary, and she said she liked it on top. So she got on top and then started quivering. It's hard to explain. She wasn't going up and down like they usually do. She was fukking quivering!!!

I can't explain it. What the hell is her problem. I better get hard porno sex when she wakes up.
You don't think? It's usually pretty clear. One scenario is she finishes fast. I am hooking up with a girl that I can get off in under a minute sometimes. Every woman is different. So she could have been quivering because it was that good. The other possibility is that she was in an awkward position on top, so her muscles in her leg were quivering. You may have experienced something similar if you were rock climbing as a beginner (the only example that comes to mind). Also some women after they orgasm don't like to be touched or to continue having sex because it is painful for them (a female refractory period).
 
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TheBucketOfTruth said:
You don't think? It's usually pretty clear. One scenario is she finishes fast. I am hooking up with a girl that I can get off in under a minute sometimes. Every woman is different. So she could have been quivering because it was that good. The other possibility is that she was in an awkward position on top, so her muscles in her leg were quivering. You may have experienced something similar if you were rock climbing as a beginner (the only example that comes to mind). Also some women after they orgasm don't like to be touched or to continue having sex because it is painful for them (a female refractory period).
Maybe that's what happened. It's too late to worry about it now. I'm going to try again.



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but in this case she dumped you, so probably not!

She didn't dump anything. She's still contacting me.
 

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This is why you ALWAYS spin multiple plates. She's gone from hot piece of ass in a short skirt at the bar to turning you into a Cuddle B!tch. Be less available to her. In fact, learn from your own example here; you said you were over your ONEitis as a result of approaching this one in Wal-Mart - now go build on that. Do more approaches and leave this plate to cool for now. Tell her you're otherwise occupied, but make your reason something unavoidably responsible (i.e. helping your sick mother, or helping your best friend move, or something work/money related). Essentially, you're doing a take away. You're making a rookie mistake in that you became too available with the next girl after a ONEitis. Thus you gradually come off as clingy or locked into her as an exclusive arrangement, she picks up on this and then sets terms for her intimacy. She controls the frame now, not you.

2 Red Flags -

1.) NO CONDOM? = Automatic NEXT. No "I wanna feel you" or "I'm alergic to latex" crap. It's called birth CONTROL for a reason - YOU control the birth. No condom? SHE controls the birth. A condom is your ONLY insurance.

2.)Iron Rule of Tomassi #3

Any woman who makes you wait for sex, or by her actions implies she is making you wait for sex; the sex is NEVER worth the wait.

When a woman makes you wait for sex you are not her highest priority. Sexuality is spontaneous, chemical reaction between two parties, not a process of negotiation. It's sex first, then relationship, not the other way around. A woman who wants to ƒuck you will fly across the country, crawl under barbwire, climb in through your second story bedroom window, ƒuck you like a porn star and wait patiently inside your closet if your wife/GF comes home early from work - women who want to ƒuck will find a way to ƒuck. The girl who tells you she wants a relationship first or "just isn't comfortable with you yet" is the same girl who ƒucked the "totally hot guy" in the foam cannon party in Cancun with her girlfriends on spring break half an hour after meeting him.

If a girl is that into you she'll ƒuck regardless of ASD or having her friends in the room videotaping it at a frat party. All women can be sexual, you just have to be the right guy to bring it out in them, and this happens before you go back to her place. If you have to plead your case cuddling and spooning on the bed or getting the occasional peck on the cheek, you need to go back to square one and start fresh.

Your attentions, your sympathies, are too easily gotten and she's become comfortable with you. The quality 'porno sex' you're wanting from her isn't going to happen to that degree now. You need to get back to the anxiety and uncomfortableness that she experienced at Wal-Mart. Good, hot, passionate sex comes from discomfort and sexual tension, not fluffy, cuddly comfort. That's what stuffed animals are for, not sexual partners. Do a take away for a week or a week and a half, then come back to it afresh keeping in mind cultivating that sexual anxiety from planting a seed of doubt about your interest.
 

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you said you were over your ONEitis as a result of approaching this one in Wal-Mart
He's not over one-itis. He merely re-assigned his ongoing one-itis to the new gal.

As per Vlad's quote: "I'm feeling another 'oneitis' kicking in."

Anyhow, Vlad, all this energy going into figuring her out... just leads to a slew of conjecture. How about instead you deal with the bottom line? Her actions, no matter what her reasons are?

So, she acts like a loon. Therefore, she is a loon.
 
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Mr. Me said:
He's not over one-itis. He merely re-assigned his ongoing one-itis to the new gal.

As per Vlad's quote: "I'm feeling another 'oneitis' kicking in."

Anyhow, Vlad, all this energy going into figuring her out... just leads to a slew of conjecture. How about instead you deal with the bottom line? Her actions, no matter what her reasons are?

So, she acts like a loon. Therefore, she is a loon.


I'm starting to think that maybe she did get off in that 5 minutes. What else could that shivering have been? I mean she was shaking really fast like it was freezing cold. And that went on for about a minute and then she hopped off and said "i'm done".

Either way, this plate is spinning good. I'm getting daily "I miss you" messages and "when can I see you again" texts so everything is in control. I'm not going to mention this incident to her unless it happens again.

As for her being my new "oneitis" I don't feel that way anymore. I was just excited when I posted that.


Rollo Tomassi said:
This is why you ALWAYS spin multiple plates. She's gone from hot piece of ass in a short skirt at the bar to turning you into a Cuddle B!tch. Be less available to her. In fact, learn from your own example here; you said you were over your ONEitis as a result of approaching this one in Wal-Mart - now go build on that. Do more approaches and leave this plate to cool for now. Tell her you're otherwise occupied, but make your reason something unavoidably responsible (i.e. helping your sick mother, or helping your best friend move, or something work/money related). Essentially, you're doing a take away. You're making a rookie mistake in that you became too available with the next girl after a ONEitis. Thus you gradually come off as clingy or locked into her as an exclusive arrangement, she picks up on this and then sets terms for her intimacy. She controls the frame now, not you.

2 Red Flags -

1.) NO CONDOM? = Automatic NEXT. No "I wanna feel you" or "I'm alergic to latex" crap. It's called birth CONTROL for a reason - YOU control the birth. No condom? SHE controls the birth. A condom is your ONLY insurance.

2.)Iron Rule of Tomassi #3

Any woman who makes you wait for sex, or by her actions implies she is making you wait for sex; the sex is NEVER worth the wait.

When a woman makes you wait for sex you are not her highest priority. Sexuality is spontaneous, chemical reaction between two parties, not a process of negotiation. It's sex first, then relationship, not the other way around. A woman who wants to ƒuck you will fly across the country, crawl under barbwire, climb in through your second story bedroom window, ƒuck you like a porn star and wait patiently inside your closet if your wife/GF comes home early from work - women who want to ƒuck will find a way to ƒuck. The girl who tells you she wants a relationship first or "just isn't comfortable with you yet" is the same girl who ƒucked the "totally hot guy" in the foam cannon party in Cancun with her girlfriends on spring break half an hour after meeting him.

If a girl is that into you she'll ƒuck regardless of ASD or having her friends in the room videotaping it at a frat party. All women can be sexual, you just have to be the right guy to bring it out in them, and this happens before you go back to her place. If you have to plead your case cuddling and spooning on the bed or getting the occasional peck on the cheek, you need to go back to square one and start fresh.

Your attentions, your sympathies, are too easily gotten and she's become comfortable with you. The quality 'porno sex' you're wanting from her isn't going to happen to that degree now. You need to get back to the anxiety and uncomfortableness that she experienced at Wal-Mart. Good, hot, passionate sex comes from discomfort and sexual tension, not fluffy, cuddly comfort. That's what stuffed animals are for, not sexual partners. Do a take away for a week or a week and a half, then come back to it afresh keeping in mind cultivating that sexual anxiety from planting a seed of doubt about your interest.

Thanks for the great post. She's traveling soon so letting it cool off now won't do me much good. I should probably try to wear it out before she leaves for 2 months. In fact I think this coming weekend is the last one she'll be around for awhile.

She didn't actually tell me not to use a rubber, she just tried to hop on without me putting one on and I stopped her. When I told her to stop I need to put one on she didn't object, or say anything negative about it.

But something tells me if I didn't put a rubber on, she wouldn't have stopped after 5 minutes!!
 
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Update

I haven't contacted her in over a week and at first she was trying to contact me once or twice a day, and then she stopped for a few days. She tried to call me last night, and today but I didn't answer and she did NOT leave a voice mail.

I sort of want to call her and see her but it feels like a chore. I'll have to go pick her up and all that crap. Plus I don't even know if she'll give me any booty either. I haven't told her that I am upset with her yet. I think it's almost time to let her know the deal. But, it's not like she is blowing up my phone to reach me. She just calls one time and doesn't even leave a message... I'm not impressed.

What do you think?
 

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you had your time with her. Did whatever you could have done. Now I think you must be looking around for more options. She can be left as an open option. You can answer her calls and see if she is really missing you and wants to re-initiate a good contact.

Girls can be pretty lame. We are ready to give our hearts out for these girls, and they just don't respect that enough. Be strong and look around for more.
 
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daygameguy said:
you had your time with her. Did whatever you could have done. Now I think you must be looking around for more options. She can be left as an open option. You can answer her calls and see if she is really missing you and wants to re-initiate a good contact.

Girls can be pretty lame. We are ready to give our hearts out for these girls, and they just don't respect that enough. Be strong and look around for more.

Yeah, I'm just tired of dealing with women, the games and the BS. I think I'm finally ready to take a break from the game.
 

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Vlad the Impaler said:
Update

I haven't contacted her in over a week and at first she was trying to contact me once or twice a day, and then she stopped for a few days. She tried to call me last night, and today but I didn't answer and she did NOT leave a voice mail.

I sort of want to call her and see her but it feels like a chore. I'll have to go pick her up and all that crap. Plus I don't even know if she'll give me any booty either. I haven't told her that I am upset with her yet. I think it's almost time to let her know the deal. But, it's not like she is blowing up my phone to reach me. She just calls one time and doesn't even leave a message... I'm not impressed.

What do you think?
I think her not leaving a message is not indicative of anything. The fact she's still calling means she is interested.

The reason why I think you're tired of the game is because you're playing. ;) Women do indirect communication like this. Men either ignore completely or they voice their grievance. Choose one of the two. Don't string along this plate like the last one, there's no reason to.
 
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Prod said:
I think her not leaving a message is not indicative of anything. The fact she's still calling means she is interested.

The reason why I think you're tired of the game is because you're playing. ;) Women do indirect communication like this. Men either ignore completely or they voice their grievance. Choose one of the two. Don't string along this plate like the last one, there's no reason to.

But I'm to the point where I'd rather be alone with a six pack and watch TV than deal with calling a girl and talking.

If she was REALLY interested, she would be calling and texting 5 times in a row. Not just once. So she fails.
 

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Vlad the Impaler said:
If she was REALLY interested, she would be calling and texting 5 times in a row. Not just once. So she fails.
Don't give up on game though. I feel you have good potential. Only reason why you get stuck with 1 girl is because you don't play the game frequently enough. That's why you keep getting this one-itis thing.. I had the same problem until I realized that it is stupid to feel one-itis unless you sense one-itis from the girl as well.

Just be insensitive and meet more girls. Some of them WILL be perfect match for your likes and preferences. But only way you can meet them is if you keep gaming.
 

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This is from a "Cardinal Rules" post i saved a long time ago from this site, forgot who posted it tho..

"1. 95% OF WOMEN ARE UTTERLY WORTHLESS, (OTHER THAN FOR SEX OF COURSE) AND ULTIMATELY REPLACEABLE"

and "regarding Girls: - if you're not fukkin' them - drop 'em... unless she has hot friends. Other than that - they are utterly worthless to you. "

Does she have hot friends? lol..
 
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