Wow man, he mentioned that he hadn't been in field regularly before as much as he could have. If you ever had any experience in the outside world and not on the compu..... wait never mind, it's worthless to explain it since I don't think you would understand it. Anyway, look how messed up the logistics were in the beginning. I would say this was hard approaching a celebrity and getting a kiss, picture, and number. Man, I hope you're not one of those social circle and inner game guys.
FR: The Seduction of Paris Hilton (Part II: Paris Kisses Papa)
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JT47319
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The thing about AFCs are that they're a bunch of crabs in a barrel. Just as one starts to lift himself out of the barrel, the other crabs will grab him and pull him back in.
Check this out, the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of PUAs are giving the man props, respect, and much love for doing a TOTALLY cold approach without warming up, in a bad logistical setting, to a girl with a self esteem of 10, and to a girl who's never had a nonwhite (to my knowledge) boyfriend (ie Papa is a fellow Asian).
Just look at all the responses to his FR on both forums. DJs say negative things and disbelieve a man when he goes for the gold, PUAs are all about the positive and constructive criticisms.
Check this out, the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of PUAs are giving the man props, respect, and much love for doing a TOTALLY cold approach without warming up, in a bad logistical setting, to a girl with a self esteem of 10, and to a girl who's never had a nonwhite (to my knowledge) boyfriend (ie Papa is a fellow Asian).
Just look at all the responses to his FR on both forums. DJs say negative things and disbelieve a man when he goes for the gold, PUAs are all about the positive and constructive criticisms.
Gangster Of Love
Master Don Juan
I agree with JT. We have more haters in here than men trying to help eachother out. Had Papa just told his story as him approaching with no hesitation, everyone here would have said he was full of it, nobody can do it that easy.
Jake put it best, he didn't even know how to act when he saw her. So it is understandable, even for one of the elit PUA's to hesitate. His game is pretty tight, so even his shyness is overcome, because he trutsts his skills.
Jay Fiedler
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"These guys carry digital recording devices."
This just gets more bizarre by the minute. So you mean they PURPOSELY carry recorders just so they can tape record their convos with girls they are trying to get with?
Very, VERY odd.
This just gets more bizarre by the minute. So you mean they PURPOSELY carry recorders just so they can tape record their convos with girls they are trying to get with?
Very, VERY odd.
squirrels
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It's actually a damned good idea. You should try it sometime.
Oh yeah, you don't TALk to girls. My bad.
Anyway, all I'm saying is that if someone came online and said they were making out with Paris Hilton on ANY internet forum, I wouldn't believe it. No, she's not the hottest girl in the world (although I would definitely strike that bony ass from any angle), but she's a highly recognizable sexual icon and media story since "the video" was released, and it's just hard to swallow.
If this is for real, all the props in the world. I'm just saying that DJ, PUA, or AFC, I find it hard to believe that anyone on this forum is sleeping with anyone with that much sexual notoriety. But if he really is, then what I say won't matter to him anyway.
Jay Fiedler
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I'm all for getting better at whatever you try to do, but dont you think that recording conversations you have with a girl is going overboard? I mean its not rocket science.
I couldn't even imagine doing something like that, or what my friends would say if they knew I was doing something like that. Be a man, not a geek. Do you think the top DJ's of the world would do that? Brad Pitt, James bond..whoever? Hell no!. Its gay.
OT: I do mighty fine thanks squirrels just doing what I do. I get laid alllllll the time, been with over 40 different girls. And yes I know a person can say whatever they want over the internet, so whether you believe me or not means nothing to me.
I couldn't even imagine doing something like that, or what my friends would say if they knew I was doing something like that. Be a man, not a geek. Do you think the top DJ's of the world would do that? Brad Pitt, James bond..whoever? Hell no!. Its gay.
OT: I do mighty fine thanks squirrels just doing what I do. I get laid alllllll the time, been with over 40 different girls. And yes I know a person can say whatever they want over the internet, so whether you believe me or not means nothing to me.
I agree with Jay in the fact that the quote he pointed out was hilarious.
However, I really do beleive this is true. Lets face it guys, Paris is not the hardest girl to get with. I know a couple of guys who have gotten with her (kissed) that is. She is a known party girl who LOVES the boys. Bedding her would be a whole different story. Anyways props to you pap, good for you to grab your ballz and do it.
Carrying a tape recorder around is a bit rediculous though. If you need to analyse your game to that extent, u have some issues. My cousin has been with a heap of A list celebs (u need to be on the invite list and run in those circles to get with them however). Thats why I beleive all this "DJ" and "PUA" stuff is absolute BS. U are either good with the ladies or you are not.
However, I really do beleive this is true. Lets face it guys, Paris is not the hardest girl to get with. I know a couple of guys who have gotten with her (kissed) that is. She is a known party girl who LOVES the boys. Bedding her would be a whole different story. Anyways props to you pap, good for you to grab your ballz and do it.
Carrying a tape recorder around is a bit rediculous though. If you need to analyse your game to that extent, u have some issues. My cousin has been with a heap of A list celebs (u need to be on the invite list and run in those circles to get with them however). Thats why I beleive all this "DJ" and "PUA" stuff is absolute BS. U are either good with the ladies or you are not.
Austin Allegro
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DJs don't put women on pedestals. And they certainly shouldn't put B-list celebrity home made porn film stars on pedestals.
She's just a woman. No reason to treat her any differently from any other.
Watch the film 'Notting Hill' for a good exploration of what happens when 'celebrity' women get treated like any other.
She's just a woman. No reason to treat her any differently from any other.
Watch the film 'Notting Hill' for a good exploration of what happens when 'celebrity' women get treated like any other.
Yah..almost as odd as your fixation with kiddie porn, eh?
The ones under 12 dont count, sicko!
Come to think of it.. arent you the same punk who was harassing pap before under the username echo1212? I also remember you gave Bishop flack in his pics thread.
WTF???!
Why is it that you are always trying to shoot your fellow DJs down man? Anytime a brother steps up and wants to share his experiences or show pictures, you immediately call BS. Probably because with your sh!tty attitude you could NEVER get the results that these guys do, therefore you cant believe its possible.
You know.. its posters like you that have degraded the quality of this forum...in fact I have just put you on "ignore" so I dont have to waste a single precious second reading your worthless advice and negative bullsh!t. Sayonara, assh0le.
My advice to you: Stick to prowling the grade schools for dates, and leave the real women for us men....freak.
Evil-Rom
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So Jay, ever find those pics all over the net?
No need for all the harsh remarks Don Ronny. Im sure Jay is upset enough that you have him on your "ignore" list.
JT, whats up with mentioning pap is an "asian man"? U Asian guys got issues or what? Half of this forum has turned into Asian men complaining and talking about how its so great to see an "asian man" doing so well with the ladies. I just dont get you guys. I know a couple of Asian pimps who get babes and NEVER feel the need to bring up their race. Its not like I walk around saying, nice one white man..........if there is no insecurities about being asian, why is it always bought up?
JT, whats up with mentioning pap is an "asian man"? U Asian guys got issues or what? Half of this forum has turned into Asian men complaining and talking about how its so great to see an "asian man" doing so well with the ladies. I just dont get you guys. I know a couple of Asian pimps who get babes and NEVER feel the need to bring up their race. Its not like I walk around saying, nice one white man..........if there is no insecurities about being asian, why is it always bought up?
Jay Fiedler
Don Juan
So Don Ronny, its perfectly acceptable to you (and the women you date) to carry around a recorder recording everything that goes on during your date? If so you are more of a geek boy than even pap, and your dates must be beyond desperate to get taken out by a guy..any GUY..including a mr. geek boy like you who would do such things.
As far as your fixation on kiddie porn, I have no idea what you are talking about. All I did was point out that I had seen a picture of the girl on a web site (actually lots of web sites) and one of them was the howard stern site. I like Howard stern, as I'm sure 90% of the guys on this forum do as well. I have no control over what is or isnt posted on his site.
As for degrading other posters, if you would ever take the time to read over my posts, I offer my best advice whenever I can. Most of the time considerate and thoughtful. And part of that is calling BS when I see it. OR.......calling out threads that I see that are so whacked like paps usually are. He and others of his group, while good in their ultimate intentions (meeting girls) take it to such an extreme that it basically borders on psycho. Carrying recorders? Using the words and psycho babble and pre planned exercises they do just to meet a simple woman? A woman?!! Were not talking God almighty here. They are putting women on such a pedastal by doing all of these things that is defeats the main purpose of meeting them--having fun! Do you honestly think their are groups of women out their carrying around their recorders and meeting beforehand on how to get with a man? Of course not, and if they do--they're psycho. Same as pap and you and any other who go to such lengths all to get with a member of the female species.
Or..maybe its simply the fact that without all of this AMOG this and psycho this, you have NO chance with women. Are you that unconfident with the opposite sex that you have to resort to such tricks and games? Me? I'm myself, and I think most guys should be that way..and are.
As far as your fixation on kiddie porn, I have no idea what you are talking about. All I did was point out that I had seen a picture of the girl on a web site (actually lots of web sites) and one of them was the howard stern site. I like Howard stern, as I'm sure 90% of the guys on this forum do as well. I have no control over what is or isnt posted on his site.
As for degrading other posters, if you would ever take the time to read over my posts, I offer my best advice whenever I can. Most of the time considerate and thoughtful. And part of that is calling BS when I see it. OR.......calling out threads that I see that are so whacked like paps usually are. He and others of his group, while good in their ultimate intentions (meeting girls) take it to such an extreme that it basically borders on psycho. Carrying recorders? Using the words and psycho babble and pre planned exercises they do just to meet a simple woman? A woman?!! Were not talking God almighty here. They are putting women on such a pedastal by doing all of these things that is defeats the main purpose of meeting them--having fun! Do you honestly think their are groups of women out their carrying around their recorders and meeting beforehand on how to get with a man? Of course not, and if they do--they're psycho. Same as pap and you and any other who go to such lengths all to get with a member of the female species.
Or..maybe its simply the fact that without all of this AMOG this and psycho this, you have NO chance with women. Are you that unconfident with the opposite sex that you have to resort to such tricks and games? Me? I'm myself, and I think most guys should be that way..and are.
Jay Fiedler
Don Juan
Clooney, the "asian" thing was also something I was wondering about, but didn't bring up for fear of being branded a racist by the mainly asian group that seems to be at the heart of all of this. Thanks for doing so.
I just dont get these guys, cant they just go out and meet chicks without getting into asian this, or AMOG that? Cant they just have fun?
I just dont get these guys, cant they just go out and meet chicks without getting into asian this, or AMOG that? Cant they just have fun?
lol, yeah I was thinking I might get flamed when I posted. However, a few of my good mates are asian, and two of them are absolute pimps. They get a LOT of ladies and never bring up the issue of their race. I didnt know it was such a big problem and such an underlying insecurity as it seems from my observations of so many posters on this board. This is the reason I asked the question.........? Is this a big issue for a lot of you Asian guys? Or why exactly bring it up?
I also agree, anyone who carries tape recorders around and devotes their entire life to this (who isnt making money out of it), has serious issues. Although I think pap might be making money out of it, if so, props to you man. What a life and what a job! I would have loved to do it when I was younger, but my passion for pickups and numerous woman has died, as everything seems to after you do it for years and years.
squirrels
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Hey, can we ban Jay Fiedler? He only shows up whenever Pap posts something and then it's only to bash aimlessly.
I´m sorry Jay..did you say something? I was busy reading something constructive.
Tell you what buddy, when you start posting actual field reports or posting pics, then maybe I will consider reading your posts again. Till then, STFU you keyboard jackoff!
Tell you what buddy, when you start posting actual field reports or posting pics, then maybe I will consider reading your posts again. Till then, STFU you keyboard jackoff!