For you guys who still live at home.....

[SELF-MASTERY]

I'm 25 and still live at home,.

I will leave home:

After saving about 80k (4yrs from now working 80 hr wkly)

I hate living at home, its horrible because my parents are fundamentalist christians. My mom thinks that every girl I date is special HA.

I hate everything about my living conditions. My only solace shall be my ever inflating bank acct.

Im a fcuking man child......

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

I'd choose my freedom over any amount of money. Plus the stigma of living with your folks. I bet most women would appreciate a hole in the wall studio apartment with her guy over her guy's parent's house. Personally, I'm not crazy about roommates either. I enjoy having my own castle.

 

[SELF-MASTERY]

Social ridicule is nothing new to me. I would rather gain financial mobility than hastefully moving to a hole in the wall just to bang chicks.....

Different folks have different goals....

although I am miserable livin' at home

 

[DeathDealer]

Originally posted by dietzcoi
I know you don't want to hear this but MOVE OUT!

I do not want my kids living with me at 23/24! It is disgraceful.

My kids are going to college at 18 and not coming back.

You will feel the same way when you have kids. You are an adult. Act like one

Dietzcoi

What's a 40+ year old doing here? Get the fuk out. Second, when you were 20+ in the 1980s or whatever things were much better then. Min wage was just right, and money was good.

Today Min wage is still the same as it was in 1980 when it should be double that amount. Homes cost almost 5 times more than what it was in your time, yet wages haven't really followed suit unless you have a high degree.

 

[SamePendo]

Lesson learned:

-It kicks ass to be on your own.
-It isn't easy, especialy when it comes down to money.


Better yourself, so you can succesfuly aim at high paying jobs.

End of story.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by DeathDealer
What's a 40+ year old doing here? Get the fuk out. Second, when you were 20+ in the 1980s or whatever things were much better then. Min wage was just right, and money was good.

Today Min wage is still the same as it was in 1980 when it should be double that amount. Homes cost almost 5 times more than what it was in your time, yet wages haven't really followed suit unless you have a high degree.

So the answer is simple, get a substantial education so you do not have to make just minimum wage. If you believe that your best is minimum wage you should stay at home with mom and suckle her breast...

It's a sad world if this is the attitude of the younger generations. No aspirations, no work ethic, full of complaints and excuses. People think we have it bad with Bush running things, wait until we have to elect of these nimrods. I'll be first in line to leave the US.

And we use to be such a proud nation.... sad...

 

[Paintballguy]

Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
So the answer is simple, get a substantial education so you do not have to make just minimum wage. If you believe that your best is minimum wage you should stay at home with mom and suckle her breast...

It's a sad world if this is the attitude of the younger generations. No aspirations, no work ethic, full of complaints and excuses. People think we have it bad with Bush running things, wait until we have to elect of these nimrods. I'll be first in line to leave the US.

And we use to be such a proud nation.... sad...

Thats why I give a lot of credit to my parents for pushing me to work hard and take responsibility for my actions. I'm only 19 and I've already worked my way up to making more than my dad.

If you are willing to work and educate yourself, you can be very successfull in this world.

 

[DjDreamer]

Fvck working hard...work smart...education is the key...

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by Paintballguy
Thats why I give a lot of credit to my parents for pushing me to work hard and take responsibility for my actions. I'm only 19 and I've already worked my way up to making more than my dad.

If you are willing to work and educate yourself, you can be very successfull in this world.

I congratulate you because you are a rare breed nowadays. It's rare to hear about young, successful adults who've made it on their own.

Just twenty years ago it was commonplace to move out of the house by the time you graduated college. If you had a lot on the ball you were out by the time you graduated high school.

But now you don't even hear about people getting their first job until they are into their twenties. What the hell happened?

 

[Life-Trainee]

I graduated college. Got a professional job. Living here is so damn expensive and i also have to pay college loans. I've no choice but to live with my folks.

 

[Ziroh]

Neither do I but my father is a trucker and he is never home so it is basicly my pad, most of the time.

I am a very good student. So good, that I am above the average on each and every tests might they be physical or mental. I study languages when I have some free time wich means when Im not at work or at school (unfortunately, thats not enough for my liking). I am a lucky one indeed.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by Life-Trainee
I graduated college. Got a professional job. Living here is so damn expensive and i also have to pay college loans. I've no choice but to live with my folks.

It could be worse, you could live in either Manhattan or San Francisco which are way more expensive or you could be paying double digit interest on your student loans instead of 3%. Ever thought about what you would have to do if your parents weren't around?

 

[thefonz]

Originally posted by Francisco d'Anconia
Just twenty years ago it was commonplace to move out of the house by the time you graduated college. If you had a lot on the ball you were out by the time you graduated high school.

But now you don't even hear about people getting their first job until they are into their twenties. What the hell happened?

I'll tell you what happened, college is FAR more expensive than it was 20 years ago. A teacher of mine who went to my school explained to me that she could pay off her education by working inbetween semestors and saving up from a part time job.....back then it was roughly $1000 per semestor at the school.....now it's around $7000. I get help from my mother but for me to pay that on my own would be unthinkable unless i wanted bills up the ass when i graduated (which i'm working on minimizing at all costs since i also wanna go to grad school)........I live at home now not cus i'm lazy or i need to be dependent but because if i wanna plan on making decent money when i get older i need allocate the little money i have to the right places.....so living on my own would be great if i just wanted to work a trade job for the rest of my life and save up doing that.....but i need my clinical lab science degree to make the money i need to build the life i want in 10 years

 

[WORKEROUTER]

Why not just rent a studio apartment or a room? Should be pretty cheap...

Or, get a one bedroom apartment, find a good roommate, and split the rent 50-50.

These are some of the options I am considering in the next couplel months.

 

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Originally posted by thefonz
I'll tell you what happened, college is FAR more expensive than it was 20 years ago. A teacher of mine who went to my school explained to me that she could pay off her education by working inbetween semestors and saving up from a part time job.....back then it was roughly $1000 per semestor at the school.....now it's around $7000. I get help from my mother but for me to pay that on my own would be unthinkable unless i wanted bills up the ass when i graduated (which i'm working on minimizing at all costs since i also wanna go to grad school)........I live at home now not cus i'm lazy or i need to be dependent but because if i wanna plan on making decent money when i get older i need allocate the little money i have to the right places.....so living on my own would be great if i just wanted to work a trade job for the rest of my life and save up doing that.....but i need my clinical lab science degree to make the money i need to build the life i want in 10 years

*** Listen... Anyone else hear violins????

 

[Tha Realnezz]

lol,

Apts.run from at least 800-2000 range a month.Unless you want roomates in a shack above a vietnamese restaraunt you should save your money.

And take my advise paying bills,dealing with landlords is not for kids.If you look like you're wet behind the ears people will take advantage of you,especially your fellow young bachelor.

Most of you guys have no credit history either soooo....lol.I don't see any of you moving straight from the basement to a fifth avenue apt.

Save your money,then move out with a group of freinds or move in with a chic right off the bat to get the hang of it.

Getting a nice care should be the priority IMO.

 

[WeakMenNeverRise]

When I first read this thread I was like wow, I really understand where that guy is coming from. But as far as the criticism are concerned, i think a previous post hit the nail right on the head, the is NOT the 1980's. I don't mean to get political hear, BUt thiS country Has definitely been screwed over by our leaders. I have a degree from the University of North Carolina in Computer Science and it seems like its dang near impossible to find a job. I talked to this dude at IBM and he was tellin me that the problem is that they have so many foreign workers coming in on H1B visas that the competition is really stiff. As for a place, and maybe i'll have to get over this, but I'm not going to the gap or best buy just to say that i've got my own crib. Just like on madden, sometimes you have to blitz i.e. be aggressive and sometimes you have to play it safe and drop back into coverage. Right now, to take on bills when I don't have a steady, good paying a job would be most SIMPISH

 

[DjDreamer]

SIMPISH? That's an understatement... it would be damn near suicide...

Some things are good in theory but bad in practise and playing it safe financialy is not easily understandable to the lucky few.

 

[ScrewIt]

I agree with everyone here!

hell im 20, hate to admit it but i love my mom's cooking, but i for one would love to live on my own....If i was financially secure that is. Absolute freedom!! and tv dinners 7-days a week!

With being a full time college student and part time work for $8 an hr, i just dont see that happening. So until i finish college or find a stable full time well payed job, i'll be stuck with the parents till then....

I too want the freedom you desire, do whatever and bring whomever you want back to your place. so until you are financially stable...

 

[Gangster Of Love]

Originally posted by DeathDealer
What's a 40+ year old doing here? Get the fuk out. Second, when you were 20+ in the 1980s or whatever things were much better then. Min wage was just right, and money was good.

Today Min wage is still the same as it was in 1980 when it should be double that amount. Homes cost almost 5 times more than what it was in your time, yet wages haven't really followed suit unless you have a high degree.

Guy, don't be an idiot. Minimum wage is not the same in 2004/2005 as it was 25 years ago. Don't pull stats out of your a$$ just for the sake of your weak argument. An experienced guy who's lived and learned more lessons of life is just sharing his wisdom, and what do you do? You insult him because his opinions don't appeal to the lazy.

First of all, if you want to whine and bitsh about your situation, try living in the conditions that some people in this country and most people in some countries have to live in. You are legally here, healthy, living in the greatest countr in the world, so go out there and get it. Don't expect people to hand you things. The world doesn't owe you chit. You are in a situation thousands of people wish they had. Get it?

It is UP TO YOU to make it happen. Believe me, nobody else really cares if you succeed, so you better care about yourself. You are the only one with the choice to get educated and become marketable enough for employers to want to compete for your skills.

Your other alternative is to NOT GET LAID. You probably already making sure that is happening. With your "The world owes me everything" attitude,it will be an accomplishment if you can get many women to want to spread 'em for you. You are pointing your finger at everything and everyone, except at the person responsible for your current situation.