For the guys that pack heat

[Andromax]

I still think you guys are much more likely to get shot and killed by your own guns than by some Hud down the road.

You may well be well trained or not, the truth is statistically if you've got a gun you're way more likely to be killed by one, either buy a drunken spouse or you lose it one day.

OK you may 'feel' safer, but that's like wearing a seat belt and driving through a red

I read somewhere that you are like 1,000,000 times more likely to be killed by your doctor than by a gun owner.

 

[Ice Cold]

Originally posted by Alpine
I still think you guys are much more likely to get shot and killed by your own guns than by some Hud down the road.

Guess what category of "gun owners" this statistic applies to:

1) Legal gun owners who've passed the checks
2) Drug dealers and criminals
3) The military guys

IMO the statistic was derived from all 3 groups.

 

[Centaurion]

Originally posted by Andromax
I didn't look at your location until just now. Thats cool, the aussies get some pretty sweet guns. That bullpup is pretty cool. Though it seems akward to me.

im not from australlia, im studying here. im from norway.

 

[Andromax]

Norway? awesome..

Thats where most of my blood comes from. I would really love to go and visit the skandinavian countries...

God I wish I were independently wealthy so I could spend my whole life travelling like a wanderer learning languages and racking up foreign poon.

Anyone want to sponser me?

Everyone collect your money and send it to me, together.. you can make a difference.

 

[Ice Cold]

Originally posted by Andromax
Anyone want to sponser me?

Everyone collect your money and send it to me, together.. you can make a difference.

LOL

Start a website, like that b1tch who wants to drive to uni, but doesn't wanna work for it.

 

[Andromax]

NOT a bad idea...

Now to brush up on my dreamweaver skills...

 

[TheInfamousCBear]

Originally posted by Alpine

If I lived in Joberg, sure I'd have an AK-47 and a one stopper strapped to my side, but if I lived in the states and felt I needed a gun for self protection, I'd move to a better neigbourhood.

Not everyone in the states is that rich where they can move anywhere they want...

 

[Alpine]

Originally posted by TheInfamousCBear
Not everyone in the states is that rich where they can move anywhere they want...

I used to live in a city centre that was a bit rough. As soon as I could, I moved.

Of course it did mean working hard and making a few sacrifices, but I felt my family was worth the effort.

 

[Derek Flint]

"I still think you guys are much more likely to get shot and killed by your own guns than by some Hud down the road."

Google "Kellerman myth" or "Kellerman debunked" so you can learn what a crock of crap the above statement is.

Also, A .45 is useless if you're not accurate with it.

 

[CableLight]

Basically anything is useless if you're not accurate with it.

 

[Abbott]

Hm....this thread really reminds me of how I need to move out of Illinois.

We're an anti-gun state, so people can't carry guns in public. I've even heard that in Cook county if someone shoots a burglar who's robbing their house, the homeowner will go to jail. It's B.S. At least in my county you can do that (I think).

I'm a liberal, but unlike most liberals I'm staunchly pro-gun.

If anyone knows any info about pushing for gun law reform (in favor of guns) in Illinois, please let me know.

Ben

 

[torqueboxer]

Kinda ironic my name is Ben to....LOL

 

[Derek Flint]

Originally posted by CableLight
Basically anything is useless if you're not accurate with it.

The problem with a .45 is that ammo is much more expensive, so it will be more costly to practice and become proficient with the firearm.

There are too many people out there who want the "stopping power" from a large caliber handgun, yet they don't put the time and effort into becoming proficient with it.

And some of that is due to the higher cost of large caliber handgun ammuntion.

Unless one is willing to visit the pistol range at least once a month and put at least 100 rounds thru their pistol, they shouldn't even bother.

And more is better.

 

[PoloBlue]

I feel very confident with my M1911A1 .45 auto pistol, it does take lots of practice, I have fired over 7,000 rds out of my .45's

 

[diplomatic_lie]

I hear in Kentucky, the robber is responsible for everything that happens when he breaks into a house. So if some woman had a heart attack upstairs while having sex during the robbery, the thief can be sentenced for manslaughter.

 

[diplomatic_lie]

Originally posted by Derek Flint
Unless one is willing to visit the pistol range at least once a month and put at least 100 rounds thru their pistol, they shouldn't even bother.

You guys practice at shooting ranges? Geez, I just practice on people. Spot a hitchhiker, stop the car a few hundred metres, take aim, then bang!

 

[PoloBlue]

Originally posted by diplomatic_lie
You guys practice at shooting ranges? Geez, I just practice on people. Spot a hitchhiker, stop the car a few hundred metres, take aim, then bang!

but a pistols effective range is only about 50 meters or less

 

[Ice Cold]

Originally posted by Derek Flint
The problem with a .45 is that ammo is much more expensive, so it will be more costly to practice and become proficient with the firearm.

Why not .22 for practice?

Single shots...
Many targets, one buller per target...

Pretty much everything except burst/double tap can be done with a 22.

 

[CableLight]

To loosely quote Chris Rock: They could make bullets cost $50,000 apiece. "I'm gonna shoot your ass...When I can afford it."

I'm from the Midwest, so growing up around firearms was fairly common. Given, though, that they were mostly rifles and it involved hunting little woodland creatures. My dad bought an AR-15, which is basically similar to a military issued M-16, minus the full-auto capability (though modifications could be made). That thing puts foot to ass.

I guess my only experience with pistolas was the magnum .45 he sold a few years ago. Only used it for shooting bottles/cans and whatnot, but it didn't take long to aquire a decent accuracy with the thing. I guess I don't know much about the price of bullets for it, however, as I had a friend with a dad who basically "made" his own bullets and hooked us up with a good price. But, as Ice said, it would make more sense to practice with a lower cost kind of ammunition, though I'd imagine there might be a noticable difference when one finally decided to break out the big guns.

 

[diplomatic_lie]

Originally posted by PoloBlue

Originally posted by diplomatic_lie
You guys practice at shooting ranges? Geez, I just practice on people. Spot a hitchhiker, stop the car a few hundred metres, take aim, then bang!

but a pistols effective range is only about 50 meters or less

I don't use pistols...

In Australia people-hunting is quite common. Guys riding around on kangaroos, armed with a rifle, sniping at people. Its a wild wild place.