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Originally posted by ARK
In explaining past relationships she said she gets sucked in to them and doesnt see the guy for whom he really is. Said that was how she got hurt in the past with the guy in the 4 year relationship.
Her poor judgment is her fault not the guys! If a chick gets hurt by past relationships she will always cry to the whole world " Its not my fault I am the victim". I could understand one or two guys but if she continue to choose the same type of guys and they end up hurting her then this my friend is called "Insanity".

In all those situations the guys are different while she is the same, so how can it all be their faults?? I am so sick of chicks who claim to be a victim in a relationship but when they do something bad to fvck up a relationship they never take responsibility! bunch of hypocrites!.
 

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Originally posted by DJDamage
In all those situations the guys are different while she is the same, so how can it all be their faults?? I am so sick of chicks who claim to be a victim in a relationship but when they do something bad to fvck up a relationship they never take responsibility! bunch of hypocrites!.
My last girlfriend was one. She could go out and drink and chase "hair" bands like Poison, etc. but if I wanted to wash the car or play a game online **** hit the fan. :rolleyes:
 

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more ******** !!!

In explaining past relationships she said she gets sucked in to them and doesnt see the guy for whom he really is. Said that was how she got hurt in the past with the guy in the 4 year relationship.

ok lets see if we can brake the code.

in explaining her past relationships she says she gets sucked into them

sucked into them ?

how can you end up dating someone you don't want to date ?

a door to door salesman can sell you something you don't want if you are weak willed or gullible

so she was SEDUCED or so she says in ********

and then...

she doesnt see the guy for whom he really is

doesn't see him for what he really is ?

does she need glasses ?

remember kids we are talking about HUGS here

so the guy is a jerk she hugs him twice then discovers he only wants sex ? DUH !

and after dishing out hugs she feels torn apart because she gave herself ( hugs ) to a guy and she will never be whole again ?

so she needs to date alot of guys for what reason ?

DAMN SHE IS GOOD !!!

she has got me thinking hard !

WATCH YOUR BACK ARK. this chick is very intelligent. transfer that into ******** = gibberish.

now speaking gibberish is a whole other language. the translations take me alot longer and her last statement i couldn't translate. she is very good at talking gibberish.

but what i can do is translate it using ********

SHE IS SETTING YOU UP

she has named her terms. her contract.

she has set up all her ESCAPE ROUTES to flake and cheat for future use IF NEEDED ( look at what she has said )

she has told you all the things she is going to do to you. oh my bad MAY do to you LOL


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the trap is set.
 

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Originally posted by Lost In Translation
SHE IS SETTING YOU UP

she has named her terms. her contract.

she has set up all her ESCAPE ROUTES to flake and cheat for future use IF NEEDED ( look at what she has said )

she has told you all the things she is going to do to you. oh my bad MAY do to you LOL


I believe LIT unlocked the code and its true meaning.
 

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Depends upon your attitude

I've not dealt with this kind of gal anytime recently, at least beyond one date, so I have nothing to add regarding her.

Back to the original premise of the post: flowers or not?

Do whatever you want, if you do it from the right frame of mind.

I was involved with this one gal who obviously was very picky about who she dates, and hadn't dated a lot recently, though she was very bright (probably intimidatingly so, for most guys).

We got pretty heavy on the 1st date. Then a couple weekends later (she lived ~ 1 1/2 hours away) she came to visit. I got her flowers, and a bottle of wine of a brand that she'd been looking for, but couldn't find in her area. We had one hell of a weekend.

So, it all depends upon the context. Do what your instincts tell you to do. There are no hard & fast rules (within bounds of human decency, of course).
 

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i liked lost in translation's whole theory behind this girl. So the girl is a medical student, which might mean that shes pretty smart, so add that up with the natural cunningness that women naturally have, and she might have just outsmarted you, and shes already got you set up for a trap, but the good thing is that you havent fell for it. Just be careful, protect your heart dont reveal anymore interest, basically dont reveal anymore about yourself, make her want more of you, until she reveals interest for you.
 

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Originally posted by undesputable
i liked lost in translation's whole theory behind this girl. So the girl is a medical student, which might mean that shes pretty smart, so add that up with the natural cunningness that women naturally have, and she might have just outsmarted you, and shes already got you set up for a trap, but the good thing is that you havent fell for it. Just be careful, protect your heart dont reveal anymore interest, basically dont reveal anymore about yourself, make her want more of you, until she reveals interest for you.
Yes, I am still mysterious to her. She asks me to tell her more and wants to continue to do things together. She does have interest for me or so it would seem at this point.

Good news is I have a lunch date tomorrow with girl #2. :cool:
 

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Originally posted by ARK

Good news is I have a lunch date tomorrow with girl #2. :cool:
thats great....is always 1000 times easier to walk away from a girl when you know theres another girl in line. get girl #3, and 4 and 5...theres no limits, keep your options open, and youll soon become a player, even if thats not your objective being a player is a very efficient way to find the girl thats special and right for you.
 

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Yeah, the problem with being labeled a player is people look down on you. I've already heard, "Are you a player?" "Your going to end up hurting one of them." "As long as you know what your doing." "What do you think Girl#1 would say if she found out about you dating another one."

Not sure why but there is that negative label to being called a player. When in actuality all Im doing is finding a woman. Its not like Im sticking my dipstick in each one of them.
 

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Originally posted by ARK
Yeah, the problem with being labeled a player is people look down on you. I've already heard, "Are you a player?" "Your going to end up hurting one of them." "As long as you know what your doing." "What do you think Girl#1 would say if she found out about you dating another one."

Not sure why but there is that negative label to being called a player. When in actuality all Im doing is finding a woman. Its not like Im sticking my dipstick in each one of them.
The more I become a DJ the more I like the term 'player'. AFC's hate players because they get jealous of their success. Women claim they hate players but continue to date them! why?? because they love them.

If a woman thinks you are a player then you are obviously doing something right.
 

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Originally posted by ARK

When in actuality all Im doing is finding a woman. Its not like Im sticking my dipstick in each one of them.
and if you feel like it do it as long as you wrap it and they get tested first.... But that aside there is nothing wrong to be a player...A girl can have many many guys lined up, and if she plays her cards right and doesnt make it too obvious, nobody is going to be calling her a slut or *****. You just got to play it right, be smooth and when somebody asks you "are you a player?" just say no. I knew a guy that was so good that he was sleeping with 2 woman and they both knew about it, the thing is that they really loved him, they would get pissed and just left him, but eventually they would come back, and they just learned to share the guy.
 

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ARK-

im dating a 20 yr old virgin...grantide we have been friends for a long time...before I let this thing go past a fantasy of being together.


but this girl is on me like heat on flames..she will give it up to me soon...

she wants to see me everday, talk to me everyday, just basically is falling in love with me.


just because the girl is a virgin doenst mean she can play some innocent card.


:woo:


id move on from this girl..and start playing her
 

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WEEKEND UPDATE

Well boys Im back from the weekend so Im giving my update.

Drove up to see her on Fri. Picked her up and we headed up to the north end of town to a dinner theater. Conversation always seems good between us. We always seem to find out that we like the same things. The buffet opened and I initiated some kino for the first time that night. Funny whenever I touch her she always leans into it and closes her eyes. (she must like it that much) During the second act I could tell that she wanted to hold hands. Hers kept coming closer to mine. So finally we held hands across the table. Play ended we walked out hand in hand got in the car and went back to her place. (she held my hand the whole time on the way back) Got back to her apt. and we pretty much just made out for a couple hours on the couch. I went out and got my clothes and she made me a place to sleep on the couch about 12:30. She went to her room and I slept on the couch.

The next morning, she took a shower and got dressed. Came out and we had cereal for breakfast and talked. I went in and took my shower came out and we kissed some more. Cuddled up on the couch together while she read a book. She apologized for reading her book in front of me, knowing that I came to see her. I told her it was fine that it didnt bother me. So she read more and ended up reading some of it to me. Kissed more and she had a medical school class to go to. At this point I figured I was going to be heading home after I ran my errands. Well she asked what I was doing that afternoon and said she was going to be making dinner for her roommates and if I was still in town that I was welcome to come back. So, I figured why not. She told me to call her at 5:30 and we went our separate ways. In retrospect staying in town till 5:30 was kinda AFC of me, but I think it was worth it. I got a neg-hit on her that evening.

Anyway I went to see a coworker that lived in town and did some shopping around the area. About 5:30 she calls me and I head to her apt.

Her two roommates (female) came one of which I havent met yet. My date started dinner for us and got side tracked helping one of her roommates configure a computer. I finished making the spaghetti and three of us ate. We talked and I got my neg-hit in on her. (redeemed myself) I helped clean up, did some dishes and took out the trash. (the bag was in the way and I was sitting on my butt). My date was organizing and putting stuff away and thanked me for my help, kiss etc. and was sorry that she wasnt spending time with me right then. She showed her roommates her new outfit that she wore on our date and mentioned that I said I liked it. One of her roommates said "He's supposed to say that" and they laughed. My date then teased me about not noticing that her hair was cut. It had been two weeks since I last saw her so she said I had an excuse. "Hes supposed to say that" Isnt that behavior something a boyfriend girlfriend does? Im "supposed" to compliment her.

Anyway, she sat down with me and we watched some tv. She cuddled up and feel asleep for an hour and a half. Finally I was getting ready to leave and before I did and tried my hand at connecting her roommates Windows laptop to their isp. She stood next to me and kino'd me while I tried. I didnt get it to work but she walked me to the bottom of the stairs, we made out for about twenty minutes and she asked me what I was thinking several times. Why do girls ask that? Is she wanting me to spill my feelings all over the place? Anyway, that was about it and I left.

I feel pretty good about the weekend. Redeemed my AFC with a neg-hit. I felt like a Don Juan whose time was important. (she thanked me for my help around the place and apologized for not spending all her time with me.) Most of all I think her roommates got a good impression of me. It was funny when my date was asleep in my arms and her roommates would walk by and smile at me. They must have a pretty good impression of me from what all they saw and my date has told them. Ive decided that Im going to wait for her to call or email me before I make any form of contact this week. I want her to know that Im not sitting around thinking about her. :)

Well tomorrow is the lunch date with Girl #2. Yeehaw!
 
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Originally posted by ARK
....I finished making the spaghetti and three of us ate. We talked and I got my neg-hit in on her. (redeemed myself) I helped clean up, did some dishes and took out the trash.
From flowerss to this? You went from bad to worst!!! This was a bad move -- you became one of the girls!!! Never hangout with girls --- always excuse yourself and say "I'll pass - I'll see you next week alone"
 
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Every time I read a post about a virgin I start salivating in my thoughts of devouring her whole but then as I continue to read about the so-called virgin my mouth starts to dry up and swell while coming to the conclusion that she is a hor in virgin clothing.

Virgins don’t lie but hors do!!! And this girl is a liar!! She doesn’t make sense and when shyt don’t make sense I get a nervous twitch in my belly and feel hunger pangs as if my stomach is asking to be fed with truth, when it gets fed with truth then I feel nourished and my hunger subsides and my appetite is satisfied and my strength restored!!!

BUT, when I am fed with junk food (lies) that has no nutritional value I get a “feeling” that my hunger has been satisfied but this is a false notion since “it” does not contain the substance by which my body needs to function and build strength – only that of nutritional real substance (truth) can quench my appetite and quell my hunger pangs!!!

The feeling of fulfillment from junk food (lies) only lasts for a few minutes and it is fleeting - soon you realize that what you have been fed was not of nutritional value (truth) since your body is still craving something of substance and value; thus, you seek to eat something that is real and substantive to bring you to true fulfillment and nourishment!!

Do you get what I am saying ARK? Don’t be so gullible – she is feeding you junk and you feel satisfied with what she gives you but it is only a temporary feeling and it is not real! She is telling you want you want to hear and only what she wants you to think and she is controlling your thinking and thus your actions!!

LIT is on the mark with his analysis because he has been in neck deep with conniving hors all of his life and knows hors better than his self, and Tazman was on the money with “woman’s hurt = sex” but it needs more explanation and analysis…

Only women who ‘were’ virgins use the word “hurt”!!! Her ex b/f pimped her but he left her for the hor that she is and she is now irate because she was a virgin at the time and she was loyal to him for four years because he took her virginity and once she gives it up to him he leaves for another hor!!

So in her pain and disgust she feels foolish for giving her ‘self’ to him and now wants to reclaim, once again, that high and mighty title of “virgin” because she feels that she has the right to claim this virgin status again because she feels that she was duped into giving herself to him!! She doesn’t want to admit that she was fooled by his “I love you!” claims!! Now she doesn’t trust men so she acts aloof and will never commit to a man again because she doesn’t want to be fooled again!! Thus her contradictory claims of I only want you but I want to date other men! HUH????

This thread and your last thread gave many, many clues that she is not a virgin but they are too numerous too mention - LIT missed something that I saw immediately in your first post that sent bells off in my head (he is good but he is yet to be at my level of awareness).

Virgins don’t “date” dudes for four years!!!! And dudes don’t “date” virgins for four years!!!! THEY GET MARRIED OR SEPARATE!!!!! THIS IS THE LAW!!!!

If the girl/guy decides to be with one man/woman forever and is highly principled then she/he will get married after a few years or they will move on quickly to find “The” one!!! They do not waste each other’s time for four years – woman with this mindset get married very young and are serious in their endeavor with no time to waste!

Originally posted by ARK
Puerto Rican, she didnt actually come out and say she was a virgin. However, from her response and conversation about what to expect from her physically, one can easily tell that she is one. She made it sound like she is waiting for her husband.
In another thread you stated the above – virgins always tell you directly “I’m untouched – I’m a virgin!!!” Virgins don’t make vague comments – just another hint that she is NOT a virgin!!!

Here is what you do – continue to play her game and act gullible (I said “act” not “be”) but know that she is lying…ask her questions until she starts getting nervous and eventually the truth will be forced out because a lie does not live forever….the arc of moral justice is long but it always bends towards truth!!!

Ask her, “Wow, four years? Did he ever ask you to marry him?”

If she says, “No, he never did” - then this is a lie because no dude will be with a girl for four years without getting action and NOT ask her to marry him! Also, no girl will be with a dude for 4 years without giving “it” up and will always ask a dude after a year, if not months, “Are you ever going to ask me to marry you?”

If she says “Yes, he asked me to marry him” then this is a lie because after four years of grinding with dude and of a virgin mindset she would have said yes otherwise why be with someone for four years you don’t want!!

Ark, do you get what I’m saying??? Their relationship of four years was based and held together by sex – this is what was keeping them together and nothing else – there is no other conclusion!! I so damn logical and always on the mark, sometimes I feel my brain is going to burst!!

You are fooling yourself!!!

You are telling us that after knowing you for only 3 weeks, she is grinding with you on your couch until 5 am?? And lets you sleep over her house etc,,,Where is the shame? Virgins don’t do this!!! If she is doing this to you after 3 weeks are you telling me she did nothing with dude for 4 years????????

OH, COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (PR_L screamed so loud that he farted with much force).
 
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She would have been in that relationship at the age of 18. She was with the guy for 4 years. So from 18 to the age of 22 they were together and that "he didnt get as far as he wanted to with her in four years." Maybe they fooled around but didnt have intercourse.. I don't know. Maybe they were boyfriend and girlfriend and he finally said screw it and got a piece of azz on the side and hurt her feelings. I dont know. She has never said, "I have not had intercourse" but the way she talked about it that one night makes me think she hasnt. Like I said, I dont know how far they went physically.

I think as time goes on as we get to know each other more we will talk about relationships again. I will ask more about it and see what info she gives me.

Yes, we have been dating now for two months and she just let me stay over at her apt., though I slept on the couch. Not sure where you read grinding on me at the park. All we have done so far is make out for hours on end on a couch. heh.

I didn't really hang out with the girls. I went to have dinner with her while the other two girls came in that evening and they more or less went to their separate rooms to unpack after dinner. There was some interaction that I mentioned. I didnt take her flowers either. I kept your guys comments in the back of my mind when I was with her. :)
 

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PR_L say what ?

LIT is on the mark with his analysis because he has been in neck deep with conniving hors all of his life and knows hors better than his self

i don't know them better than myself but i know them fairly well

LIT missed something that I saw immediately in your first post that sent bells off in my head (he is good but he is yet to be at my level of awareness)

oh really lol ?

so you are Yoda and i am Obi-Wan ?

Virgins don’t “date” dudes for four years!!!! And dudes don’t “date” virgins for four years!!!! THEY GET MARRIED OR SEPARATE!!!!! THIS IS THE LAW!!!!

pft ! i got that as soon as i saw it !

is that it ? thats your higher level ? dude i got that !

please go back and read all my posts :)


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Originally posted by PuertoRican_Lover
From flowerss to this? You went from bad to worst!!! This was a bad move -- you became one of the girls!!! Never hangout with girls --- always excuse yourself and say "I'll pass - I'll see you next week alone"
Yeah no kidding. ARK probably thought he did great on this date, but it screams AFC. Cooked them dinner, washed her dishes, took out her trash? Are you serious? Did she tell you to do all this or did you offer? Either way you are screwed.
 
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