Face it, Direct Game is not a good way to meet girls.

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I think it depends, when i go to cities direct game works much better than indirect game, I'm not saying be a sleeze i'm saying flirt but wit respect. Its only the suburbs where there girlsa don't feel comfortable with the idea of a guy being sexually or romantically interested in them. I use direct game alot.
 

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I agree with what a lot of you are saying about the "direct" opener.

I REALLY like the idea and theory behind direct game, in other words, skipping all the BS and fake game crap.
But HOW on earth are you supposed to walk to up to a girl and the first thing that comes out of your mouth is "Hi, I think you're beautiful/gorgeous and I want to get to know you" and have her NOT think you're just some creep who is after her for her body.

I think my main issue is the directness of the opener and what it will seem to apply in subtext. Here's an example; Let's say you're talking to your mates and suddenly to gorgeous girls walk past. Before you realize it, they're about 15-20 ft ahead of you. So you're telling me you can go catch up then and suddenly from behind just say "Hey. you're beautiful and I would like to get to know you" to one of the girls? I don't see HOW that could ever work. Even if it would work IF you had the perfect body language, tonality, self-confidence and DAMN good looks (which I think you would definetly need)...what about the rest of us who don't have those things? I know that I for one, probably don't have enough self-esteem and confidence to pull something like this off....especially when the odds of rejection seem so high.

Imo, Direct is a good way to go once you have a little bit of rapport or something already in Common, especially for Day Game. I mean think about it...if someone Approaches and starts to introduce themselves or gives you an obvious compliment, you usually start to get suspicious. For instance you might think
A. OMg, this person is going to try to bum money off of me...or trick me into giving him money in some way.
B. Oh great, this person is going to ask for donations for their cause.
C. This person is going to try to sell me their product or get me to sign up for something.
D. This person wants to take up my time by asking my to participate in some survey I care nothing about.
Although, if two cute girls came up to and said "We think you're handsome and would like to get to know you better", I might be pleasantely surprised, but I would have my defenses up and trying to think why these two girls are approaching me like this, since it's so against societal standards
 

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Jokebox,

Openers are not important... you do not have to open declairing how gorgeous/beautiful you think a girl is...

There's no "one way" to be direct. You have to incorporate the Direct principles into your own "personal style.

When you approach in direct manner you want to come in with an underlying attitude of, "I KNOW for a fact that you want to share my company .... there is NO DOUBT IN MY MIND that you want me!!

I'm not into pre-rehearsed pick-up' lines. So, I'm not really into the whole "you should say this!"..."you should say that!" crap (Indirect). As long as you're expressing your sexual desires to the girl in a upfront, to-the-point, honest, and unapologetic manner ... your being direct and very natural. Like I have said already "let your own personal style and personality dictate what specific words and phrases you use.

i feel like it will only work if the girl already finds you physically attractive
You have a point mate, but thats one reason direct works so well. So a girl doesnt find you attractive. Are you going to be approach and be indirect (wasting time) and find out after 1hour she's not (sexually) interested in you? I'm not down with that. If other guys are thats cool.
 

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Direct game can work, if you do it right.

What would help is if you pump up the social proof. Being direct at a club or bar would make much more sense than during day time, but hey, I've managed to pull using direct, and I prefer indirect!
 

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In clubs/bars it's more expected to be direct so it will generally not weird girls out anyway. Saying that, most of my direct day approaches have gone fine, my sticking point is closing girls who say they have bfs etc. since I'm generally approaching 7-9 s. Which is generally the same sticking point even if I do indirect. The thing with indirect, is I need to conjure up a situational opener or something plausible, which means less sets in a given time frame.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Direct game isn't about telling her she is beautiful (although you can do that)...it's about having the utmost confidence when you approach her. If you approach her and ask her directions, who lies more, etc....what does that say about you?? subconsciously you are using a GIMMICK cause you don't believe in yourself, direct game is simply no gimmicks, 100% confidence.
 

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Personally I find the "You are beautiful" bit somewhat cliche and tired.

My fave line is "Hey I like your style and would like to get to know you better. My name is D!ck..etc etc" Then I just steamroll them with teh charm.

The original poster is right though. Direct Game as a tactic will surely fail in most situations..its more of a mindset and presence that one exudes rather than saying anything in particular.

Direct is built on attitude, tone and how you carry yourself. It's hard to explain with words, but it does work.
 

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sexybeast said:
Jokebox,

Openers are not important... you do not have to open declairing how gorgeous/beautiful you think a girl is...

There's no "one way" to be direct. You have to incorporate the Direct principles into your own "personal style.

When you approach in direct manner you want to come in with an underlying attitude of, "I KNOW for a fact that you want to share my company .... there is NO DOUBT IN MY MIND that you want me!!

I'm not into pre-rehearsed pick-up' lines. So, I'm not really into the whole "you should say this!"..."you should say that!" crap (Indirect). As long as you're expressing your sexual desires to the girl in a upfront, to-the-point, honest, and unapologetic manner ... your being direct and very natural. Like I have said already "let your own personal style and personality dictate what specific words and phrases you use.
Alright, that's cool man. I think I'm starting to understand a little more now.

But, I still have no idea how to approach them and be direct. Can you give me some examples or just some sample coversations or anything to get me started? The only thing I can think of is "Hey how are you?" or "I think your beautiful" Etc, and then a brief intro with names.

Btw, its JUKEbox...not Jokebox (unless that was intentional..hahah)

agentzero said:
If you approach her and ask her directions,
But what if you DO genuinely need directions. What if I'm new in town and I need directions to a good club I heard about. (I.e. when I was in San Diego, I asked someone directions to On Broadway) I think that would a be a good way to tell them that they seem like interesting people and even ask them if they want to go with you. Worst case scenario, you get directions to the place you REALLY DO want directions to.

Same applies for opinion openers. For instance, what if you do want female opinions on whether a certain outfit looks better than another or whether you look better with glasses or not (I actually used this to get a lot of conversations and VALUED opinions when I was considering getting Lasik surgery. I got a lot of decent advice, but for now I have settled for more stylish glasses). Anyways, those are just examples, but there actually are female opinions that I genuinely care about...and I would seriously ask any girl, ugly or not.

But I agree with you 100% about not using B.S. opinions and situational openers you couldn't care less about just to a girl to take her panties off.

Also, to let you know a bit about me. Right now, I don't care about getting laid or one night stands. Unlike a lot of people who are just looking for "5 quick and easy steps to trick her into my bed so I can stick my d1ck in her", I'm more interested in;
1. Improving my social competence and self-confidence when it comes to women. I just want to get comfortable approaching attractive girls and being able to carry on a conversation and be perceived as a fun and interesting person, without seeming like some desperate AFC who just wants to Fvck her.
Because honestly, I don't really want to have sex with any girl just because she's hot...unless they earn it.
2. Developing a social circle...or social proof. Because I don't have any friends who aren't committed to serious relationships which occupy most of their time, save one...but he's more of the friend I hang out with to watch movies or play games for fun and such. SO at this point, even some honest LJBF's would be alright...if they actually thought I was cool and wanted to be friends.
3. Dating women and finding one that's right for me. In case it wasn't obvious before, my real goals are developing solid relationships with women. Since I've never really had a serious relationship with a woman, I think this would be a good way to get the experience I need so when I do meet the "Woman of my Dreams" or a mature, intelligent and attractive girl I do want a long-term relationship with, my odds will be a lot better.


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i can see how it works....

its not what you say but how you say it....
 

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No matter how you say 'I think you're hot so I wanted to say hi' it would be better to say almost anything else.
 

At this point you probably have a woman (or multiple women) chasing you around, calling you all the time, wanting to be with you. So let's talk about how to KEEP a woman interested in you once you have her. This is BIG! There is nothing worse than getting dumped by a woman that you really, really like.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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I've seen direct game done the most, and really fvck up the most.

I've been with girls when guys come up and say stuff like that, and the girl can't stop making fun of him and announces they want nothing to do with him after that. Forever that guy becomes "the creepy guy" and she'll avoid him like the plauge.

Really it's a lot better to say anything else.
 

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i mean you gotta add some stuff to it

think of it like you as an actor
 

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No, the only time I've seen it work was after the guy already had done indirect game for a long time days to weeks and then suddenly says something like "Your cute ya know." at the end.

I'm not being a KBJ here, I have done direct game many times and crashed and burned. Then I've been indirect and talked about random sh!t and teased the girl and it's worked much better IMO.
 

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just get all crazy in front of her face like stop .. (eyes all in amazement)

*gasp* (hand over mouth)

shaking in disbelief

"wait i have to tell you something.....
(fingers pointing at her with enthusiasm smiling)
you are the most gorgeous girl i have ever seen in my WHOLE ENTIRE LIFE!
wait wait hold on a second"

(grabbing your friends over or some random people)
"i have to grab you guys over to confirm my opinion: is she not the most beautiful women in the world?"
them: oh yea shes really beautiful
her: laughing thanks
him: come over here for a minute let me get to know you
(conversation leads into sex)
 

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xdreamz said:
just get all crazy in front of her face like stop .. (eyes all in amazement)

*gasp* (hand over mouth)

shaking in disbelief

"wait i have to tell you something.....
(fingers pointing at her with enthusiasm smiling)
you are the most gorgeous girl i have ever seen in my WHOLE ENTIRE LIFE!

wait wait hold on a second"

(grabbing your friends over or some random people)
"i have to grab you guys over to confer my opinion: is she not the most beautiful women in the world?"
them: oh yea shes really beautiful
her: laughing thanks
him: come over here for a minute let me get to know you
(conversation leads into sex)
lol nope that doesn't happen buddy. More like

her: laughing thanks
her: Uh, I have to go now.

her later: LOL This creepy guy thought I was beautiful! OMFG How sad!
 

If you want to talk, talk to your friends. If you want a girl to like you, listen to her, ask questions, and act like you are on the edge of your seat.

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It's not even what I guess would happen, it's what I KNOW will happen.

It's a fact.
 

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i don't know if its a fact, the direct method boys use it.
 

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lol I know they do.

And I watch them fail.
 

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You lot give me jokes.

Question: Do you guys think direct behavior is based on complementing and flattering a girl?
 

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