Example of My Convo Skills

[SargeMaximus]

It does work though - you clearly just are struggling to implement it. You say it doesn't work for you but all you do is send these screenshots where you are sending cringe-level texts to chicks. Maybe I have missed it because admittedly I have not read every one of your posts, but I see very little of you implementing any strategies on here that have been given to you. Quite the opposite: I see you trying to do what you have always done (be overly direct in asking for sex immediately) and continually say what people say here doesn't work.



You are caught in a self-fulfilling prophecy. It is like saying the correct form on a golf swing has never made you eagle a shot so it doesn't work and you stick to your own f*cked up form that makes you perform horribly. Makes no sense.

I have posted screens of girls I got as fwbs using my direct approach. Recently I’m trying conversations. The one I posted in the OP is an example of that, it’s not an example of my usual style, so I don’t know what you’re on about.

 

[SargeMaximus]

Actually posting private conversations publicly is feminine behavior.. Just like hank moody exposing black widow void's identity. No honor or integrity pulling that kind of shjt. You just lost the respect of most men on this forum by doing that.

Dude just ignore him like I do. Report him if you must but don’t feed the trolls. Fact is: I’m one of the only members that posts real convos. A while ago a member on here tried calling me out wrt a fwb of mine, and I called his bluff by offering to show any proof he wanted, he rescinded and changed his tone immediately. These guys are KJ incels imo

 

[SargeMaximus]

Funny thing is, I defended him in private convos with others. Saying "he may be full of shjt with his notch count, but he's right with his theory. That men awakening to female nature need to read his posts on female nature." Which I still believe. That's why I don't want him banned.

There are plenty of books with good theory on female nature, and they won’t insult you when they get salty.

 

[Konada]

Honestly I can empathize with OP because texting game is my weak link and like him, I struggle with fancy gamey texts. I've tried and its incongruent to how I act in real life, so I look socially uncalibrated over text.

I've found what worked for me to get women out is to craft a killer profile (good pics, long ass bio) so that when I get matches, I can be direct with them. More or less they have qualified themselves/built a fantasy image of me that I just have to ask them out to close the deal.

OP, you might want to re look at crafting your profile if texting isn't your strongest suit. If you are as good as a conversationalist as you say you are in person, you probably can bang hotter women if you get them out on a first date first vs laying out the fwb off the bat.

Most women won't go for the fwb approach, it attacks their ego and derails how they wish to be viewed by society.

 

[SargeMaximus]

Honestly I can empathize with OP because texting game is my weak link and like him, I struggle with fancy gamey texts. I've tried and its incongruent to how I act in real life, so I look socially uncalibrated over text.

I've found what worked for me to get women out is to craft a killer profile (good pics, long ass bio) so that when I get matches, I can be direct with them. More or less they have qualified themselves/built a fantasy image of me that I just have to ask them out to close the deal.

OP, you might want to re look at crafting your profile if texting isn't your strongest suit. If you are as good as a conversationalist as you say you are in person, you probably can bang hotter women if you get them out on a first date first vs laying out the fwb off the bat.

Most women won't go for the fwb approach, it attacks their ego and derails how they wish to be viewed by society.

Yeah but I’ve tried the dating game and had no success. I even had a bunch of girls tell me “you’re such a good conversationalist!” Or “I feel so connected to you!” Or “you’re the first guy I’ve been able to connect with Intelligently!” Now i did fvck that last girl but the others ghosted me and the last girl only said that after we had sex and were chatting, and then she ghosted me.

it’s like conversations are too friends dynamic hence why I go sexual

 

[Striker_93]

OP, you need to work on you're sex appeal

being a good "conversonalist" or being able to connect with women won't get you laid, women fvck guys that turn them on, being able to connect with them and conversating just makes you a good friend.

Now, the solution is not "start being direct"
"Start being more sexual"

Why? Because if a woman is not turned on by you then you being sexual and direct with them won't do you any justice. Just scare them off lol.

You're sex appeal is You're whole being, the way you walk, the way you talk, you're mannerisms, facial expressions, tone of voice, you're smell, you're look, the way you move, body language ect

I can't tell you how to work on that, you're gonna have to figure that out on you're own, maximize you're look as much as possible, because despite what the these guys will tell you, looks matter, women care about looks, especially when it comes to sex, as this should be common sense. Looks aren't everything and it's not end all be all but they do matter to a extent, again, anyone tells you otherwise there lying or
Don't have much social experience.

It's still a numbers game, you're just gonna have to interact with as much women as possible until you find one who likes you.

I'm not one to sugarcoat sh!t for the sake of someone's feelings, especially grown men. Life's not fair.
So honestly, you might just be "corny"
Or "lame"

Which is fine because you don't have to stay that way, but until you change that nothing anyone on this site says will help you, all the tips and techniques in the world won't help you, women won't care because everything you do will not be attractive to them because of who it's coming from.

All I can say is keep working on yourself and keep putting yourself out there.

 

[Konada]

I have alot of doubt whether you are a great salesman, if you can't even figure out what your customers (in this case, women) want.

Being a great conversationalist means shiet if they don't buy anything from you.

 

[SargeMaximus]

I have alot of doubt whether you are a great salesman, if you can't even figure out what your customers (in this case, women) want.

Being a great conversationalist means shiet if they don't buy anything from you.

Women are different. I am the customer

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

+1

In my IMNSHO: being able to adjust your approach to the specific proclivities of the target audience is key. Like with most things it takes repetition to the point that it becomes second nature. You have to be willing to fail to learn, the proverbial duck and weave. Even the most experienced seductor fails, sometimes you even realize in retrospect that you missed a queue.

Being in the ASD spectrum also sometimes includes components of OCD, if you are ASD and you’re trying to be a DJ you have to redirect your OCD to focus on the progression of seduction.

Going direct too early will scare away a huge portion of your quarry, you need to be patient and know the precise moment to strike. Again practice makes perfect. Also going direct early will net SOME lays but those chicks were going to open the curtains no matter what you did anyway, THIS I feel misleads many men to thinking it’s a proven approach. I humbly disagree.

Often after I develop a physical relationship with a gal I ask questions about my approach how they perceive me etc, I use these women who are typically smart enough to thoughtfully reply as my laboratories to perfect my approaches.

Again if you’re ASD you’re handicapped to begin with because you miss social queues by default.

I do also see a lot of sociopathic behaviors among the population of posters here as well. “They’re just holes for me to deposit my semen into.” It’s ugly and well you actually need help.

This type of behavior makes a guy who takes the time to establish rapport seem like a god to women.

/gets off soap box

I have an honest question for you, are you genuinely seeking advice (and willing to be receptive) or are you looking for an outlet to express your frustrations or validate your approach?

If it's the former, I'd be happy to continue to offer my perspective. If it's the latter, then I wish you the best.

As I mentioned in my last comment in your other thread, the real key is learning how to read each woman and moment uniquely. You can't expect to have the same approach for all women and for it to work 100% of the time. Or even if you tailor each interaction to be successful 100%, it just doesn't work like that.

I agree that being direct is better than passive. Even more so if the conversation is about food. I mean let's get real here for a second, that conversation or any conversation like that isn't going anywhere.


Modern Man Advice

 

[Namebejed7]

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There was a previous poster @da dynamically who would post his text game on this site. Search TEXT GAME under topics and you will find.

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Can't find this poster, are you sure about spelling?

 

[SargeMaximus]

+1

In my IMNSHO: being able to adjust your approach to the specific proclivities of the target audience is key. Like with most things it takes repetition to the point that it becomes second nature. You have to be willing to fail to learn, the proverbial duck and weave. Even the most experienced seductor fails, sometimes you even realize in retrospect that you missed a queue.

Being in the ASD spectrum also sometimes includes components of OCD, if you are ASD and you’re trying to be a DJ you have to redirect your OCD to focus on the progression of seduction.

Going direct too early will scare away a huge portion of your quarry, you need to be patient and know the precise moment to strike. Again practice makes perfect. Also going direct early will net SOME lays but those chicks were going to open the curtains no matter what you did anyway, THIS I feel misleads many men to thinking it’s a proven approach. I humbly disagree.

Often after I develop a physical relationship with a gal I ask questions about my approach how they perceive me etc, I use these women who are typically smart enough to thoughtfully reply as my laboratories to perfect my approaches.

Again if you’re ASD you’re handicapped to begin with because you miss social queues by default.

I do also see a lot of sociopathic behaviors among the population of posters here as well. “They’re just holes for me to deposit my semen into.” It’s ugly and well you actually need help.

This type of behavior makes a guy who takes the time to establish rapport seem like a god to women.

/gets off soap box

I’m not ASD. I’ve been formally tested and am not on the spectrum. Tell a friend since no one here seems to know yet despite me saying this for months.

As for the rest, too long and didn’t read. But I will address the one part I read which is changing to fit a different audience. Isn’t that a female trait?

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

As for the rest, too long and didn’t read. But I will address the one part I read which is changing to fit a different audience. Isn’t that a female trait?

Dude, first off:

If you are who I think you are I seem to recall that you and I have disagreed many times on a number of subjects. I can only assume that the dismissiveness in your reply has to do with that.

You’re here for help, those of us posting on your thread are trying to help you. We’re not here to prove our worth and or posture. That may be lost on you, so I thought I’d mention it, in case that’s the case.

You can posture about male/female traits with your ad-hominem attack or you can take what’s being relayed to you by myself and others as something to reflect upon.

What you have been doing isn’t working, hence your post. Yet you argue and dismiss many of those who are trying to help you. You seem to want a list of steps to follow that will net you a result - simply put this will never work. You need to adjust your perceptions, you can argue and prove “u da man”, and continue having the challenges you are experiencing or you can learn and hopefully achieve the success you want.

I’m getting what I want and I thought I’d share, instead of reflection and a thoughtful response I get your vitriol.

This will be my last direct response to you because if you approach chicks the way you’ve approached this discussion you’re incapable of synthesizing thought from what is shared.

I wish you the best of luck otherwise.

 

[SargeMaximus]

Dude, first off:

If you are who I think you are I seem to recall that you and I have disagreed many times on a number of subjects. I can only assume that the dismissiveness in your reply has to do with that.

You’re here for help, those of us posting on your thread are trying to help you. We’re not here to prove our worth and or posture. That may be lost on you, so I thought I’d mention it, in case that’s the case.

You can posture about male/female traits with your ad-hominem attack or you can take what’s being relayed to you by myself and others as something to reflect upon.

What you have been doing isn’t working, hence your post. Yet you argue and dismiss many of those who are trying to help you. You seem to want a list of steps to follow that will net you a result - simply put this will never work. You need to adjust your perceptions, you can argue and prove “u da man”, and continue having the challenges you are experiencing or you can learn and hopefully achieve the success you want.

I’m getting what I want and I thought I’d share, instead of reflection and a thoughtful response I get your vitriol.

This will be my last direct response to you because if you approach chicks the way you’ve approached this discussion you’re incapable of synthesizing thought from what is shared.

I wish you the best of luck otherwise.

Sounds good. The less “advice” that doesn’t help, the better.

 

[LOASoSuave]

Fwiw (as a woman), skip the food talk, or any small talk, sorry that was a huge YAWN @SargeMaximus .

Better to start off direct - "what brings you to POF, what are you looking for"?

Most women love a man diving in deep like that straight away.

There was a previous poster @da dynamically who would post his text game on this site. Search TEXT GAME under topics and you will find.

He was very direct, no BS small talk, and would quickly escalate to sexual.

It really worked well for him, from what I read, he was quite successful with the ladies.

He had a boyish charm and style even though a self-admitted sociopath, not in a malicious way.

Lol, I cannot believe I just posted that, but it's true!

hey buddy, can't find TEXT game. can you help me ?