Example of My Convo Skills

[BackInTheGame78]

There is a way to be interesting and exciting even through text but talking about food and going to the gym isn't it.

 

[SargeMaximus]

There is a way to be interesting and exciting even through text but talking about food and going to the gym isn't it.

Obviously

 

[Zimbabwe]

There is a way to be interesting and exciting even through text but talking about food and going to the gym isn't it.

Can you provide OP and the rest of us with a little example of what that might be?

 

[DonJuanjr]

@DonJuanjr Not working pics below

Let me reiterate that I haven't criticized you for going direct. I have no problem with it since you're one of the few actually showing your attempts and receipts. Since being very direct like you, I've gotten the fwb(event though she's fat, and possibly not spinning any longer).

I only offered an idea to follow if you're up for trying different things(while I never said it's guaranteed to work anyways). That being said, you didn't exactly follow what I suggested. You just went direct right after the x amount of responses. She didn't text anything that could have been used as a jumping off point to turn sexual.

 

[zekko]

Yeah but here’s my issue: when I’m in conversation mode, I’m not sexual. It’s like the blood is either in my dlck or in my brain, but not both.

That's an interesting observation. I've noticed that when the hormones are flowing, it's almost like I enter a different state of mind entirely. I might even find myself craving things that would normally repel me.

The only other thing I want to say is that conversations skills and texting skills are not necessarily the same thing. Some guys can do one, but not the other. Some guys can do both, some can do neither. My personal philosophy is to be as natural as possible when texting (close to the way I talk), but I can't be quite as loose because sometimes without the body language and inflections they might take something meant as a joke as serious, or stuff like that.

 

[DonJuanjr]

not texting anything in between the days he set up the date and the day of the actual date.

I followed advice like this from here, and ended up getting ghosted. Though there were signs she wasn't interested anyways, so who knows.

 

[SargeMaximus]

That's an interesting observation. I've noticed that when the hormones are flowing, it's almost like I enter a different state of mind entirely. I might even find myself craving things that would normally repel me.

The only other thing I want to say is that conversations skills and texting skills are not necessarily the same thing. Some guys can do one, but not the other. Some guys can do both, some can do neither. My personal philosophy is to be as natural as possible when texting (close to the way I talk), but I can't be quite as loose because sometimes without the body language and inflections they might take something meant as a joke as serious, or stuff like that.

Yeah I’m a good conversationalist but not a good seducer I think is the right distinction. I work in sales and greet many people every day and often have good convos so that’s not a problem. But that’s not why I’m here.

it’s definitely a different mindset and I can’t do both.

@DonJuanjr I hope you didn’t feel I was lashing out at you, just had to post. I get what you’re saying but you can see in the pics she didn’t give me much choice, it just kinda went that way

 

[DonJuanjr]

@DonJuanjr I hope you didn’t feel I was lashing out at you, just had to post. I get what you’re saying but you can see in the pics she didn’t give me much choice, it just kinda went that way

Nah I didn't think that. We're good. Remember that a proper test needs more than 1 result. I tried my "you've been selected to apply for fwb" line like 40 times. Only 2 responded, one that liked it, and the other that was offended. So due to having the amount of tests(40) I'm certain to say that it doesn't work well enough to bother with it. Atleast with bad pics and bio. Maybe if I changed those variables I would get a better reception with the line.

 

[SargeMaximus]

Nah I didn't think that. We're good. Remember that a proper test needs more than 1 result. I tried my "you've been selected to apply for fwb" line like 40 times. Only 2 responded, one that liked it, and the other that was offended. So due to having the amount of tests(40) I'm certain to say that it doesn't work well enough to bother with it. Atleast with bad pics and bio. Maybe if I changed those variables I would get a better reception with the line.

Yes I agree, testing is crucial. Hence why I won’t even entertain approaching women anymore because I’ve done that hundreds of times back in the day

 

[Dr.Suave]

Some girls are gonna ghost/flake. Its part of the game

 

[Modern Man Advice]

Girl just ghosted me so there you go @Modern Man Advice , perfect example of me not being direct and sexual and losing the girl

I have an honest question for you, are you genuinely seeking advice (and willing to be receptive) or are you looking for an outlet to express your frustrations or validate your approach?

If it's the former, I'd be happy to continue to offer my perspective. If it's the latter, then I wish you the best.

As I mentioned in my last comment in your other thread, the real key is learning how to read each woman and moment uniquely. You can't expect to have the same approach for all women and for it to work 100% of the time. Or even if you tailor each interaction to be successful 100%, it just doesn't work like that.

I agree that being direct is better than passive. Even more so if the conversation is about food. I mean let's get real here for a second, that conversation or any conversation like that isn't going anywhere.


Modern Man Advice

 

[SargeMaximus]

I have an honest question for you, are you genuinely seeking advice (and willing to be receptive) or are you looking for an outlet to express your frustrations or validate your approach?

If it's the former, I'd be happy to continue to offer my perspective. If it's the latter, then I wish you the best.

As I mentioned in my last comment in your other thread, the real key is learning how to read each woman and moment uniquely. You can't expect to have the same approach for all women and for it to work 100% of the time. Or even if you tailor each interaction to be successful 100%, it just doesn't work like that.

I agree that being direct is better than passive. Even more so if the conversation is about food. I mean let's get real here for a second, that conversation or any conversation like that isn't going anywhere.


Modern Man Advice

It’s the former, but I’ll only take advice if you guys can admit when it doesn’t work. Otherwise you are just as close minded as you claim I am.

i tried it didn’t I? I could have kept gaming her like I normally do. And that’s not the only time I’ve done this method. As I’ve said ad naseum, I’ve done pua style hundreds of times, and never once got laid using it.

explain to me how I can get laid doing “what doesn’t work”? If you can answer me that I can meet you halfway, but if you just gonna ignore and invalidate my experiences to protect your narrative, then I’m not interested. Never been an echo chamber boy and don’t intend to start now.

this community should be about growing and learning what works for us as individuals, not parroting the accepted views just to fit in.

 

[DonJuanjr]

The problem is all these advice givers aren't typing what they would say in place of your responses. It's not that hard to do. It always seems to be esoteric after-the-fact you didn't do it right comments.

 

[SargeMaximus]

The problem is all these advice givers aren't typing what they would say in place of your responses. It's not that hard to do. It always seems to be esoteric after-the-fact you didn't do it right comments.

Agreed. It’s easy to claim to know it wouldn’t work after you see it hasn’t worked. I don’t take those type of comments seriously. And I really don’t take the “do what never worked for you because we say so!” Comments even less seriously.

 

[Barrister]

It’s the former, but I’ll only take advice if you guys can admit when it doesn’t work. Otherwise you are just as close minded as you claim I am.

i tried it didn’t I? I could have kept gaming her like I normally do. And that’s not the only time I’ve done this method. As I’ve said ad naseum, I’ve done pua style hundreds of times, and never once got laid using it.

explain to me how I can get laid doing “what doesn’t work”? If you can answer me that I can meet you halfway, but if you just gonna ignore and invalidate my experiences to protect your narrative, then I’m not interested. Never been an echo chamber boy and don’t intend to start now.

this community should be about growing and learning what works for us as individuals, not parroting the accepted views just to fit in.

It does work though - you clearly just are struggling to implement it. You say it doesn't work for you but all you do is send these screenshots where you are sending cringe-level texts to chicks. Maybe I have missed it because admittedly I have not read every one of your posts, but I see very little of you implementing any strategies on here that have been given to you. Quite the opposite: I see you trying to do what you have always done (be overly direct in asking for sex immediately) and continually say what people say here doesn't work.

Agreed. It’s easy to claim to know it wouldn’t work after you see it hasn’t worked. I don’t take those type of comments seriously. And I really don’t take the “do what never worked for you because we say so!” Comments even less seriously.

You are caught in a self-fulfilling prophecy. It is like saying the correct form on a golf swing has never made you eagle a shot so it doesn't work and you stick to your own f*cked up form that makes you perform horribly. Makes no sense.

 

[SargeMaximus]

It does work though - you clearly just are struggling to implement it. You say it doesn't work for you but all you do is send these screenshots where you are sending cringe-level texts to chicks. Maybe I have missed it because admittedly I have not read every one of your posts, but I see very little of you implementing any strategies on here that have been given to you. Quite the opposite: I see you trying to do what you have always done (be overly direct in asking for sex immediately) and continually say what people say here doesn't work.



You are caught in a self-fulfilling prophecy. It is like saying the correct form on a golf swing has never made you eagle a shot so it doesn't work and you stick to your own f*cked up form that makes you perform horribly. Makes no sense.

I have posted screens of girls I got as fwbs using my direct approach. Recently I’m trying conversations. The one I posted in the OP is an example of that, it’s not an example of my usual style, so I don’t know what you’re on about.

 

[DonJuanjr]

I found it all very funny until it got me banned.

Let's be real here.... That's not what got you banned. You became hostile to both him and I by calling us faggots in the discussion we were having. It's okay though, I wasn't bothered by it, and don't hold a grudge. We agree on other things.

the only notches you have ever described that I'm aware of were fat women (which doesn't count

Why not? According to all your theory, and facts about females having options; fatties still need to be gamed, because they have the chemicals/brain wiring of a female.

you got to go and bang someone else's wife in front of them.

Sounds like alpha behavior to me.

 

[DonJuanjr]

This is a self improvement forum, not a self-sabotage and sabotage others forum. You faggot.

I take it we're not friends any more???

Now I need to find another perpetrator to fill your void. All you do is talk theory, and make up stories. When asked to show others how to really game a woman with how you'd respond to their texts in given scenarios.... crickets.... That's all that needs to be said... Well also:

 

[DonJuanjr]

Exactly... Another example of you just punting to more theory and not saying jack shjt. You don't give any advice based on personal experience. Isn't it against the rules to post private messages publicly? Don't get yourself banned on my behalf..

 

[DonJuanjr]

You're exactly like a woman

Actually posting private conversations publicly is feminine behavior.. Just like hank moody exposing black widow void's identity. No honor or integrity pulling that kind of shjt. You just lost the respect of most men on this forum by doing that.