escorts vs civvies

[Hamurabimbi]

Dating conventionally is paying for sex indirectly.

Most first dates cost between $20-$40. It often takes somewhere between 1-5 dates to get laid with an individual woman. Also, many 1st-2nd dates fail and do not result in any sex.

A man starting from scratch in interacting with women might absorb $500+ of courting costs before he is able to have sex when he tries to date conventionally. Every man's results vary.

When dating conventionally, there are a lot of costs on the front side of dating. It takes a decent amount of money for most men to get a single instance of sex. The cost per instance of sex goes down for a bit after the first instance of sex but then eventually rises in time in an LTR with engagement ring costs and then costs associated with a household pet, raising children, etc. Also, frequency of sex drops after marriage and babies with enough time, raising the cost of sex on a per instance basis too. It becomes similar to a U shaped curve with getting sex from traditional, monogamous type LTRs. If a man can maintain the bottom of the U shaped curve on costs for a longer time, it is more advantageous.

This monetization of women, sex & relationships is alien. Like women are a commodity. Interchangeable life-support systems for a Vag. No comprende.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Like I said, abundance mindset is talked allot here. When put to aftually practise then people say its not relevant for a diacussion.

Abundance is when a woman wants you. Not your credit card.

 

[corrector]

Abundance is when a woman wants you. Not your credit card.

Like I said, theoretically. You need to read my posts more carefully. (The other post I wrote on this thread)

 

[GoodMan32]

You do realize that that is the perfect story for a Jon like you? It subtly reinforces the idea that she wanted sex with YOU, lol.

That woman doesn’t want sex with a man that has to pay for it and imagining that you’re Richard Gere is ridiculous because you’re not Richard Gere and you’re not a billionaire and the chances of that happening in real life are fairly low. Never mind the type of wh0re that you sleep with is not the type of wh0re that Richard Gere sleeps with.

Again self-reinforcing logic to justify an untenable stance.

I'm aware some escorts might lie (about why they became an escort); some might tell the truth.

Another escort, for example, had a totally different story: She became an escort because her mom threw her out at 18. Out of desperation, the escort realized selling vajayjay was the easiest way for an 18 year old girl to make a living.

 

[GoodMan32]

It’s not just the sex. It having a woman lust for you. Hookers don’t do that. Nothing is more fulfilling than being with a woman who absolutely wants you inside her.

As a guy who's been with non-escorts too, I know what you mean. I just have a hard time getting a woman who truly desires me.

 

[GoodMan32]

I don’t get this mindset.

It's the mindset of a guy on the spectrum who strikes out the vast majority of the time when trying to get non-escort sex.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

As a guy who's been with non-escorts too, I know what you mean. I just have a hard time getting a woman who truly desires me.

Correction: “I just have trouble getting a woman <I think is attractive> who truly desires me.”

For every man on this forum saying, he can’t get laid almost every one of them CAN get laid they’re just unwilling to sleep with the women that are willing to sleep with them for free.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Another escort, for example, had a totally different story: She became an escort because her mom threw her out at 18. Out of desperation, the escort realized selling vajayjay was the easiest way for an 18 year old girl to make a living.

Oh, the 'I became a sex worker because I'm lazy' fallacy.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

It's the mindset of a guy on the spectrum who strikes out the vast majority of the time when trying to get non-escort sex.

And I understand why someone on the spectrum might go to a prostitute. Go, rent pvssy. Your money, your trouser worm, have fun.

However, the vast majority of DJs does not consider 'renting pvssy' to be worthy of the 'Don Juan Discussion' and think that talk about renting pvssy should be discussing in the Anything Else forum.

 

[The Duke]

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It is likely that no other mother in that school district has the notch count that she did. It would be very difficult for a conventional woman to have sex with as many men as a sex worker.

Have other mothers in that school district had extra-marital or extra-relational sex? Yes.

Have other mothers put up a high notch count prior to having children? Yes, but not as high. But still high enough to damage pair bonding.

I watched an interview with the 2 females that were the whistleblowers and pieced it all together. You can guess what they looked like and what fueled it. I bet the escort is booked for the next 6months now that the story broke.

 

[The Duke]

Abundance is when a woman wants you. Not your credit card.

Start going on dates and leave your wallet at home. Report back on how that turns out.

 

[SW15]

I watched an interview with the 2 females that were the whistleblowers and pieced it all together. You can guess what they looked like and what fueled it. I bet the escort is booked for the next 6months now that the story broke.

I guess the female whistleblowers were overweight and unattractive.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Start going on dates and leave your wallet at home. Report back on how that turns out.

It certainly is the norm in our culture that men pay for the date. However, I have had women pay too. For example, my ex-wife asked me out on our first date & payed for lunch. Nevertheless. It is the man who generally courts the woman. That courting may include buying ‘dinner & drinks’. Since almost every man a woman is willing to date will buy her ‘dinner & drinks’. She most likely will go out with the man that she finds attractive.

 

[GoodMan32]

Correction: “I just have trouble getting a woman <I think is attractive> who truly desires me.”

For every man on this forum saying, he can’t get laid almost every one of them CAN get laid they’re just unwilling to sleep with the women that are willing to sleep with them for free.

I've said earlier on the thread I've been with some fatties for free (and I'm an attractive skinny guy). Believe me, I'm willing to bang a woman below my class on the looks scale.

 

[GoodMan32]

And I understand why someone on the spectrum might go to a prostitute. Go, rent pvssy. Your money, your trouser worm, have fun.

However, the vast majority of DJs does not consider 'renting pvssy' to be worthy of the 'Don Juan Discussion' and think that talk about renting pvssy should be discussing in the Anything Else forum.

This was meant as a thread to discuss both escorts and non-escorts.

It isn't exclusively an escort thread.

 

[sangheilios]

It certainly is the norm in our culture that men pay for the date. However, I have had women pay too. For example, my ex-wife asked me out on our first date & payed for lunch. Nevertheless. It is the man who generally courts the woman. That courting may include buying ‘dinner & drinks’. Since almost every man a woman is willing to date will buy her ‘dinner & drinks’. She most likely will go out with the man that she finds attractive.

Honestly, you really don't even need to spend all that much money on women you are dating, in fact a lot of the best things you can do are incredibly inexpensive or free. I'm personally not a big fan of the idea of spending much money on women that at the end of the day are still strangers. Taking some woman out to dinner for a first date doesn't really sound like a good idea when there are other things you can be doing that are far more casual and much cheaper. I'd also add that spending a decent amount of money right from the get go may be a bad idea, as you are setting the tone for the remainder of the relationship. If you spent $50 on a first date she may expect this to be more a regular thing.

I'd say this especially goes for women you've met online or from an app. There are too many women on there that are looking for free dinners and drinks from men they have no real interest in.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Honestly, you really don't even need to spend all that much money on women you are dating, in fact a lot of the best things you can do are incredibly inexpensive or free. I'm personally not a big fan of the idea of spending much money on women that at the end of the day are still strangers. Taking some woman out to dinner for a first date doesn't really sound like a good idea when there are other things you can be doing that are far more casual and much cheaper. I'd also add that spending a decent amount of money right from the get go may be a bad idea, as you are setting the tone for the remainder of the relationship. If you spent $50 on a first date she may expect this to be more a regular thing.

I'd say this especially goes for women you've met online or from an app. There are too many women on there that are looking for free dinners and drinks from men they have no real interest in.

Oh I know.

 

[SW15]

Honestly, you really don't even need to spend all that much money on women you are dating, in fact a lot of the best things you can do are incredibly inexpensive or free. I'm personally not a big fan of the idea of spending much money on women that at the end of the day are still strangers. Taking some woman out to dinner for a first date doesn't really sound like a good idea when there are other things you can be doing that are far more casual and much cheaper. I'd also add that spending a decent amount of money right from the get go may be a bad idea, as you are setting the tone for the remainder of the relationship. If you spent $50 on a first date she may expect this to be more a regular thing.

I'd say this especially goes for women you've met online or from an app. There are too many women on there that are looking for free dinners and drinks from men they have no real interest in.

You have the right idea in avoiding dinner dates. Drinks dates in bars are less expensive than dinners but can still run in the $20-$40 range depending on the venue, number of drinks, etc.

If you can manage to do free stuff on that date, that's so good. I've had a difficult time over the years doing zero cost dates. I like walks in parks dates as first or second dates. Those can be zero cost but are typically daytime dates (meaning daytime hours on weekdays) and are dependent upon the weather. An outdoor walk doesn't make much sense for large portions of the year.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

You have the right idea in avoiding dinner dates. Drinks dates in bars are less expensive than dinners but can still run in the $20-$40 range depending on the venue, number of drinks, etc.

If you can manage to do free stuff on that date, that's so good. I've had a difficult time over the years doing zero cost dates. I like walks in parks dates as first or second dates. Those can be zero cost but are typically daytime dates (meaning daytime hours on weekdays) and are dependent upon the weather. An outdoor walk doesn't make much sense for large portions of the year.

Luckily I’m close to SF. Plenty of stuff to do. Much low cost or free.

 

[Dr.Suave]

These threads posted by men who pay for sex with wh0res do not belong on a board like Sosuave.

I agree with you, if you can believe It. Why dont you ask a mod to move all escort threads to the "Anything Else" Forum?