escorts vs civvies

[Dr.Suave]

Enjoy your discussion in Anything Else. Not in Don Juan.

You are preaching to the choir. I have said the same thing in most of my posts.

 

[Dr.Suave]

Are you men truly so delusional? It is like you all live in a fantastical realm like you're billionaire movie stars or something. Nothing which you speak of actually occurs in real life and it certainly does not occur to you.

I can see the next troll thread "I discovered my GF of 3 years is secretly a hooker, what should I do?"

Me: Sometimes "x" happens irl, its not that rare.

You: I have never seen or heard of "x" so I dont believe you and Im gonna call you delusional and a troll. It is like you all live in a fantastical realm like you're billionaire movie stars or something. Nothing which you speak of actually occurs in real life and it certainly does not occur to you.

I can see the next troll thread "X happened irl, what should I do?"

You are usually a good poster but this is a topic that triggers you with a blind passion or something. Why do you even read and reply to h00ker threads?

Maybe h00kers are different in the United States, I wouldnt know. Heck, things might be very different from city to city for all I know. All I can talk about is the particular case of my city. A number of University girls moonlight as part time h00kers (that´s how the pay for university), they do everything possible to keep friends and relatives from finding out (but obviously it doesnt always work like they planned), some of them are in ltrs, and sometimes the guy is or isnt aware. ITS NOT THAT F0CKING UNUSUAL, BRO. Not in this city, anyways.

You dont do h00kers, but somehow you are the expert on what happens or doesnt? Give me a break. Its a discussion forum, we are gonna disagree, but calling me a troll was absolutely unjustified.

Edit: F0ck it, here it goes: Back when I was 15, an older friend introduced me to my city´s massage parlors. No id required as they dont sell alcohol and I looked older than 15 (and in the rare case that someone would ask for id, half the time you could pay for the person in charge to look the other way).

I was horny, I had money in my pocket, I had no "game" or any SoSuave knowledge. I was like a kid in a f0cking toy store. My options were spending my money on either video games or young, hot, childless 18 year old p00zy. So as a horny 15 year old, more often than not my money didnt went to video games.

I eventually met this girl who was (to me) a legit 9.9 out of 10 and I became a regular for years; At the time I liked her body so much that I didnt want to bang other girls anymore.

Her story: She was a student at one of the best private Universities in the city. Her dad was the provider in the family, he died, she started moonlighting part time at one of the massage parlors to afford staying at her university and support her family.

She would buy stuff for her family, they would be happy at first, then ask her where the money came from, she would say "Dont ask if you are gonna hate the answer", they would fight but keep the stuff anyway, rinse & repeat a few times until they stop asking where the money came from and just accept the gifts.

In those years, she had two different boyfriends, completely unaware of her part time job. The second guy was rich, so she quit the part time job and got "accidentally" pregnant with his child. I was so obssesed with her at the time, I was devastated. Sounds dumb now but I was young.

But to the point, sometimes "x" happens irl. You can take my word for it, not take my word for it and come visit to talk to these girls yourself, or keep living in denial.

"No hay peor ciego que el que no quiere ver"

You are a solid bro, Pierce. I say all of this without any animosity whatsoever. I have no beef with you.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

That is supposed to be a rebuttal?

There is no need to rebuke the wall of tripe you wrote; most of it is so far off the central topic it's absurd.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

Good post.

Reminds me of this escort I was with back in September. She said she became an escort post-divorce for the following reasons: She can get all the sex she wants, get paid for it, and not have to deal with a boyfriend/husband.

You do realize that that is the perfect story for a Jon like you? It subtly reinforces the idea that she wanted sex with YOU, lol.

That woman doesn’t want sex with a man that has to pay for it and imagining that you’re Richard Gere is ridiculous because you’re not Richard Gere and you’re not a billionaire and the chances of that happening in real life are fairly low. Never mind the type of wh0re that you sleep with is not the type of wh0re that Richard Gere sleeps with.

Again self-reinforcing logic to justify an untenable stance.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

It’s not just the sex. It having a woman lust for you. Hookers don’t do that. Nothing is more fulfilling than being with a woman who absolutely wants you inside her.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

I don't necessarily expect sex after spending $40.

But the point is, I spent money/time/energy on her, yet still didn't get sex. As for the time/energy thing, I go into detail on the thread about her. Let's just say for the 4 days after the date, she took up a lot of my time/energy.

Since time is money, the $40 doesn't tell the whole story. Let's tack on an extra $40 as the time/energy cost. We're up to $80.

Had we gotten another date, I likely would have spent another 40. We're up to 120. And still no guarantee of sex. On the other hand, I've gotten an escort (guaranteed sex) for 120 before.

I don’t get this mindset.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

TLDR;

These threads posted by men who pay for sex with wh0res do not belong on a board like Sosuave.

You’re like chicks trying to invade male only spaces. You want the residents to accept you, but we do not.

If you want or need to pay wh0res for sex do it, but the subject does not belong on the board and trying to get the majority of us to accept its presence is pick-me behavior.

Me: Sometimes "x" happens irl, it’s not that rare.

You: I have never seen or heard of "x" so I dont believe you and Im gonna call you delusional and a troll. It is like you all live in a fantastical realm like you're billionaire movie stars or something. Nothing which you speak of actually occurs in real life and it certainly does not occur to you.

I can see the next troll thread "X happened irl, what should I do?"

You are usually a good poster but this is a topic that triggers you with a blind passion or something. Why do you even read and reply to h00ker threads?

Maybe h00kers are different in the United States, I wouldnt know. Heck, things might be very different from city to city for all I know. All I can talk about is the particular case of my city. A number of University girls moonlight as part time h00kers (that´s how the pay for university), they do everything possible to keep friends and relatives from finding out (but obviously it doesnt always work like they planned), some of them are in ltrs, and sometimes the guy is or isnt aware. ITS NOT THAT F0CKING UNUSUAL, BRO. Not in this city, anyways.

You dont do h00kers, but somehow you are the expert on what happens or doesnt? Give me a break. Its a discussion forum, we are gonna disagree, but calling me a troll was absolutely unjustified.

Edit: F0ck it, here it goes: Back when I was 15, an older friend introduced me to my city´s massage parlors. No id required as they dont sell alcohol and I looked older than 15 (and in the rare case that someone would ask for id, half the time you could pay for the person in charge to look the other way).

I was horny, I had money in my pocket, I had no "game" or any SoSuave knowledge. I was like a kid in a f0cking toy store. My options were spending my money on either video games or young, hot, childless 18 year old p00zy. So as a horny 15 year old, more often than not my money didnt went to video games.

I eventually met this girl who was (to me) a legit 9.9 out of 10 and I became a regular for years; At the time I liked her body so much that I didnt want to bang other girls anymore.

Her story: She was a student at one of the best private Universities in the city. Her dad was the provider in the family, he died, she started moonlighting part time at one of the massage parlors to afford staying at her university and support her family.

She would buy stuff for her family, they would be happy at first, then ask her where the money came from, she would say "Dont ask if you are gonna hate the answer", they would fight but keep the stuff anyway, rinse & repeat a few times until they stop asking where the money came from and just accept the gifts.

In those years, she had two different boyfriends, completely unaware of her part time job. The second guy was rich, so she quit the part time job and got "accidentally" pregnant with his child. I was so obssesed with her at the time, I was devastated. Sounds dumb now but I was young.

But to the point, sometimes "x" happens irl. You can take my word for it, not take my word for it and come visit to talk to these girls yourself, or keep living in denial.

"No hay peor ciego que el que no quiere ver"

You are a solid bro, Pierce. I say all of this without any animosity whatsoever. I have no beef with you.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

It’s not just the sex. It having a woman lust for you. Hookers don’t do that. Nothing is more fulfilling than being with a woman who absolutely wants you inside her.

Agreed.

Sometimes I come across a lay that clearly isn’t used to being kissed, intimacy, played with and truly seduced, they’re used to guys that bang them like I imagine a Jon would bang a wh0re, with zero emotion.

A man’s ability to get a woman to connect emotionally with him plus mad skeelz in bed is what makes a guy alpha widow a chick. They’ve never had it so good and likely will not again, because 99.9% of men cannot figure it out or give a flying fock.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Dating conventionally is paying for sex indirectly.

Most first dates cost between $20-$40. It often takes somewhere between 1-5 dates to get laid with an individual woman. Also, many 1st-2nd dates fail and do not result in any sex.

A man starting from scratch in interacting with women might absorb $500+ of courting costs before he is able to have sex when he tries to date conventionally. Every man's results vary.

When dating conventionally, there are a lot of costs on the front side of dating. It takes a decent amount of money for most men to get a single instance of sex. The cost per instance of sex goes down for a bit after the first instance of sex but then eventually rises in time in an LTR with engagement ring costs and then costs associated with a household pet, raising children, etc. Also, frequency of sex drops after marriage and babies with enough time, raising the cost of sex on a per instance basis too. It becomes similar to a U shaped curve with getting sex from traditional, monogamous type LTRs. If a man can maintain the bottom of the U shaped curve on costs for a longer time, it is more advantageous.

This monetization of women, sex & relationships is alien. Like women are a commodity. Interchangeable life-support systems for a Vag. No comprende.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Like I said, abundance mindset is talked allot here. When put to aftually practise then people say its not relevant for a diacussion.

Abundance is when a woman wants you. Not your credit card.

 

[corrector]

Abundance is when a woman wants you. Not your credit card.

Like I said, theoretically. You need to read my posts more carefully. (The other post I wrote on this thread)

 

[GoodMan32]

You do realize that that is the perfect story for a Jon like you? It subtly reinforces the idea that she wanted sex with YOU, lol.

That woman doesn’t want sex with a man that has to pay for it and imagining that you’re Richard Gere is ridiculous because you’re not Richard Gere and you’re not a billionaire and the chances of that happening in real life are fairly low. Never mind the type of wh0re that you sleep with is not the type of wh0re that Richard Gere sleeps with.

Again self-reinforcing logic to justify an untenable stance.

I'm aware some escorts might lie (about why they became an escort); some might tell the truth.

Another escort, for example, had a totally different story: She became an escort because her mom threw her out at 18. Out of desperation, the escort realized selling vajayjay was the easiest way for an 18 year old girl to make a living.

 

[GoodMan32]

It’s not just the sex. It having a woman lust for you. Hookers don’t do that. Nothing is more fulfilling than being with a woman who absolutely wants you inside her.

As a guy who's been with non-escorts too, I know what you mean. I just have a hard time getting a woman who truly desires me.

 

[GoodMan32]

I don’t get this mindset.

It's the mindset of a guy on the spectrum who strikes out the vast majority of the time when trying to get non-escort sex.

 

[Pierce Manhammer]

As a guy who's been with non-escorts too, I know what you mean. I just have a hard time getting a woman who truly desires me.

Correction: “I just have trouble getting a woman <I think is attractive> who truly desires me.”

For every man on this forum saying, he can’t get laid almost every one of them CAN get laid they’re just unwilling to sleep with the women that are willing to sleep with them for free.

 

[The Duke]

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It is likely that no other mother in that school district has the notch count that she did. It would be very difficult for a conventional woman to have sex with as many men as a sex worker.

Have other mothers in that school district had extra-marital or extra-relational sex? Yes.

Have other mothers put up a high notch count prior to having children? Yes, but not as high. But still high enough to damage pair bonding.

I watched an interview with the 2 females that were the whistleblowers and pieced it all together. You can guess what they looked like and what fueled it. I bet the escort is booked for the next 6months now that the story broke.

 

[The Duke]

Abundance is when a woman wants you. Not your credit card.

Start going on dates and leave your wallet at home. Report back on how that turns out.

 

[SW15]

I watched an interview with the 2 females that were the whistleblowers and pieced it all together. You can guess what they looked like and what fueled it. I bet the escort is booked for the next 6months now that the story broke.

I guess the female whistleblowers were overweight and unattractive.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Start going on dates and leave your wallet at home. Report back on how that turns out.

It certainly is the norm in our culture that men pay for the date. However, I have had women pay too. For example, my ex-wife asked me out on our first date & payed for lunch. Nevertheless. It is the man who generally courts the woman. That courting may include buying ‘dinner & drinks’. Since almost every man a woman is willing to date will buy her ‘dinner & drinks’. She most likely will go out with the man that she finds attractive.

 

[GoodMan32]

Correction: “I just have trouble getting a woman <I think is attractive> who truly desires me.”

For every man on this forum saying, he can’t get laid almost every one of them CAN get laid they’re just unwilling to sleep with the women that are willing to sleep with them for free.

I've said earlier on the thread I've been with some fatties for free (and I'm an attractive skinny guy). Believe me, I'm willing to bang a woman below my class on the looks scale.