escorts vs civvies

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I wish I could date 9's and 10's. You know why I can't? It's not because of the reasons you listed. It's because I am not good enough. Could I get there? Probably. I've dated one 9 in my entire career of banging girls. Because of the work I put in, I can get 8's all day long now. They seem to be a good match for my SMV.

There was a time I sucked so bad I could barely score a 6 on a good day. I kept at it, improved my situation, and now I'm pleased with where I am.

Stop blaming your situation on others. Go date an HB1 if you have to. Sure beats banging a hooker that drips the voodoo goo on your jimmy. :)
I know you weren't responding to me. But since I'm the OP (and since the guy you replied to has been backing me up throughout the thread), I'm going to chime in.

Being on the spectrum, I have a hard time even picking up on clues a woman is into me. Plus my instinct (of what to say when pursuing a woman) is often wrong.
 

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I wish I could date 9's and 10's. You know why I can't? It's not because of the reasons you listed. It's because I am not good enough. Could I get there? Probably. I've dated one 9 in my entire career of banging girls. Because of the work I put in, I can get 8's all day long now. They seem to be a good match for my SMV.

There was a time I sucked so bad I could barely score a 6 on a good day. I kept at it, improved my situation, and now I'm pleased with where I am.

Stop blaming your situation on others. Go date an HB1 if you have to. Sure beats banging a hooker that drips the voodoo goo on your jimmy. :)
Oh yeah, and one thing I get from escorts that I'm less likely to get from non-escorts:

I have a fetish that's every bit as important to me as the sex itself. Only one escort has ever turned down my fetish. Many non-escorts, however, think my fetish is strange/creepy.
 

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Believe me, I've dated down. I've dated some fatties as well as a major nutjob.
That's great. You Took One for the Team for purposes of this discussion.

I was with a Black hb1 fattie a while back who was a Schizo on meds and yeah. When faced with a choice to drive 1-2 hour away vs visit an Latina hb 7 escort for $ 60 that's 5 min from my house, guess which option I choose on December 4/5, 2014? Notice I don't write anything much about her (ie mainly reserved to the old Luke Skywalker profile before that former alias got banned as even people on the old board were digusted with me that I went so low in my standards as to date someone like her), but the escort thing, as a discussion point simply sounds more interesting and exciting. It's like you can remember/feel great about being with a hb7+ escort, but a civvie that's low on the hb scale, not so much. Do you even see anyone even talking about going with hb 1-4s on here and being taken seriously, or anyone saying, "well done, at least you didn't go with an hb8+ escort?", because we both know that is totally NOTHING to write home about.

People who say something like that (ie dating down to an hb1, etc...) are just talking about of their a$$ sometimes. Like both of us have been there before, and like why would we want to go there again? It's not like we are 20 years old horn-dogs that hit a dry spell and now we will go with anybody like some rabid animal. Then the chadsplainers wonder why people do not listen to advice on here and get pissed off.
 
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You're right about escort inflation. I've had an obese escort charge me $500 (Her base price was $300. Then she added an extra hundred for kissing. Then an extra hundred for fetish)
Why did you hire an obese escort? If you gonna do the escort thing, at least hire an 18 year old who is a 10
 

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Why did you hire an obese escort? If you gonna do the escort thing, at least hire an 18 year old who is a 10
You can see an 18 year old escort the same day if you want. You are only limited by your cash (ie and in my case, spiritual) as to how many woman you can see. Theoretically you could book 10 women on the same day. For example, if I were to go on a spree, I know various brothels which have a mix of 18-20 year old Spanish girls, others who have 50+ year old women, others that have Asians, etc.. which charge very cheap (ie $ 60 - $ 80). For under $ 1000 splurge you could realistically see 10 different women. That would just be insane and mind-bending.
 

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That's great. You Took One for the Team for purposes of this discussion.

I was with a Black hb1 fattie a while back who was a Schizo on meds and yeah. When faced with a choice to drive 1-2 hour away vs visit an Latina hb 7 escort for $ 60 that's 5 min from my house, guess which option I choose on December 4/5, 2014? Notice I don't write anything much about her (ie mainly reserved to the old Luke Skywalker profile before that former alias got banned as even people on the old board were digusted with me that I went so low in my standards as to date someone like her), but the escort thing, as a discussion point simply sounds more interesting and exciting. It's like you can remember/feel great about being with a hb7+ escort, but a civvie that's low on the hb scale, not so much. Do you even see anyone even talking about going with hb 1-4s on here and being taken seriously, or anyone saying, "well done, at least you didn't go with an hb8+ escort?", because we both know that is totally NOTHING to write home about.

People who say something like that (ie dating down to an hb1, etc...) are just talking about of their a$$ sometimes. Like both of us have been there before, and like why would we want to go there again? It's not like we are 20 years old horn-dogs that hit a dry spell and now we will go with anybody like some rabid animal. Then the chadsplainers wonder why people do not listen to advice on here and get pissed off.
Talking out of their azz because they say to date an HB1? Dude, you are at the bottom of the barrel. You are not far off from an HB1. You can not expect great things. You live with your parents, your job status has been questionable, your house is a mess, you aren't in good shape. These are enormous turn offs to women.

Here's the point you are missing...

So you went out with one girl that was an HB1 fattie. She turned out to be schizo. Ok, so what. Find another one that isn't a schizo. Did you do that??? I bet you didn't. You stopped right there.

Use these interactions as opportunities to better understand women and yourself. Learn to improve your game. Start improving the basics that I mentioned above so maybe HB3's or HB4's will go out with you.

Talk about entitlement.
 

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Why did you hire an obese escort? If you gonna do the escort thing, at least hire an 18 year old who is a 10
It shouldn't be too difficult to find an obese woman with low enough standards to let him fvck for free.
 

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Why did you hire an obese escort? If you gonna do the escort thing, at least hire an 18 year old who is a 10
I like all different types of woman. This one was a thick Latina with a large backside. I've also been with petite blondes. Again, I like variety.
 

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Talking out of their azz because they say to date an HB1? Dude, you are at the bottom of the barrel. You are not far off from an HB1. You can not expect great things. You live with your parents, your job status has been questionable, your house is a mess, you aren't in good shape. These are enormous turn offs to women.

Here's the point you are missing...

So you went out with one girl that was an HB1 fattie. She turned out to be schizo. Ok, so what. Find another one that isn't a schizo. Did you do that??? I bet you didn't. You stopped right there.

Use these interactions as opportunities to better understand women and yourself. Learn to improve your game. Start improving the basics that I mentioned above so maybe HB3's or HB4's will go out with you.

Talk about entitlement.
I have posted enough info about myself and my past that for you to write that crap is just an insult at this point. On ignore.
 

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It shouldn't be too difficult to find an obese woman with low enough standards to let him fvck for free.
I've been with fatties for free in my younger days.

Then, interestingly, the last woman I banged for free (back in 2021) was beautiful and tiny (ok, maybe she could have lost 5 pounds, but that's not exactly a fattie). Yet there are obese escorts who can get men to pay for sex. The sex marketplace has no rhyme or reason.

One thing about the obese escort I mentioned, she's at least good-looking facially. In fact, when I was heading to my place with the obese escort, a male neighbor made it obvious he was into her. Then the escort texted me after the session to say she crossed paths with the same neighbor on the way out of my building...he couldn't take his eyes off her.
 

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I have posted enough info about myself and my past that for you to write that crap is just an insult at this point. On ignore.
I didn't make the stuff up, you provided the information. I just provided some context.

Get mad because someone told you what you needed to hear and you didn't like it. BooHoo.

You've put me on ignore before, is that how you handle things you don't like?

If you aren't here to learn and improve or help others, why are you here?
 

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I've been with fatties for free in my younger days.

Then, interestingly, the last woman I banged for free (back in 2021) was beautiful and tiny (ok, maybe she could have lost 5 pounds, but that's not exactly a fattie). Yet there are obese escorts who can get men to pay for sex. The sex marketplace has no rhyme or reason.

One thing about the obese escort I mentioned, she's at least good-looking facially. In fact, when I was heading to my place with the obese escort, a male neighbor made it obvious he was into her. Then the escort texted me after the session to say she crossed paths with the same neighbor on the way out of my building...he couldn't take his eyes off her.
I also think there is an assumption that you would get more of a passionate session or it would process better mentally (ie at least you feel you could do better) and makes it feel more of a nice arrangement rather than feeling you are a gross old guy taking advantage or cheating with someone you could not realistically get as a civvie.

Also allot of fat women know that you are going after them because you have lucked out with better looking women and may insist you get into commitment when with an obese escort, there is no such dynamic and you just have fun. If it feels more realistic and hot then I can see why it makes sense. Esp if you are a black guy who likes PAWG type girls who tend not to be discriminatory on their ads.
 

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I also think there is an assumption that you would get more of a passionate session or it would process better mentally (ie at least you feel you could do better) and makes it feel more of a nice arrangement rather than feeling you are a gross old guy taking advantage or cheating with someone you could not realistically get as a civvie.

Also allot of fat women know that you are going after them because you have lucked out with better looking women and may insist you get into commitment when with an obese escort, there is no such dynamic and you just have fun. If it feels more realistic and hot then I can see why it makes sense. Esp if you are a black guy who likes PAWG type girls who tend not to be discriminatory on their ads.
Contrary to stereotype, some white men are into thick women too (myself included).

Then the neighbor of mine who was into my thick Latina escort was a white man, probably in his 30s, with good looks and an athletic build (he works out in my building's gym). In other words, he's the last guy you'd expect to go for a fattie.

Obviously he wasn't aware she was an escort. Would he be willing to pay her for sex? Maybe, maybe not (I'm leaning toward probably not). But he'd clearly be down for some free sex with her.
 

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Contrary to stereotype, some white men are into thick women too (myself included).

Then the neighbor of mine who was into my thick Latina escort was a white man, probably in his 30s, with good looks and an athletic build (he works out in my building's gym). In other words, he's the last guy you'd expect to go for a fattie.

Obviously he wasn't aware she was an escort. Would he be willing to pay her for sex? Maybe, maybe not (I'm leaning toward probably not). But he'd clearly be down for some free sex with her.
Some fat women have a sensual and sexual vibe about them, just like prudish women have a different vibe. Its like the difference of looking at nude women in porn/escort ads or from a health journal. Maybe he is catching her vibe as well as she is seeing lots of guys who like her enough to part with their money for a fleeting moment with her.
 

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Some fat women have a sensual and sexual vibe about them, just like prudish women have a different vibe. Its like the difference of looking at nude women in porn/escort ads or from a health journal. Maybe he is catching her vibe as well as she is seeing lots of guys who like her enough to part with their money for a fleeting moment with her.
Plus a lot of white men (at least where I live) fetishize Latinas. It's possible my neighbor fetishized her.

I used to fetishize Latinas myself. Then I realized how cringeworthy I was acting. I currently admire, but don't fetishize, Latinas.

In one of her tweets, she pretty much mentioned what you said...that she's sensual. She says guys are willing to pay more to be with her for this reason.
 

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So had anyone seen the movies Pretty Woman or Moulin Rouge? These are about guys who won the prostitute and sucessfully seduced them. @GoodMan32, has explained how escorts gave him the confidence to pursue civvies by giving him an abundance mindet.

We really believe in abundance or not?
 

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So had anyone seen the movies Pretty Woman or Moulin Rouge? These are about guys who won the prostitute and sucessfully seduced them. @GoodMan32, has explained how escorts gave him the confidence to pursue civvies by giving him an abundance mindet.

We really believe in abundance or not?
Dude, are you really that delusional?

1. its fiction
2. you are not Ewan Mcgregor or Richard Gere
 

Peace and Quiet

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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