Does it really get better for men with age?

[Slowhandluke]

when I was 20 and broke very attractive 20 year old females dating older dudes worth millions would drop everything to hook up in my 1988 Buick century....

young girls date young guys based on potential. on average attractive young guys will become successful. if a guy was attractive but has no ambitions and is stupid, girls will not hook up with him as readily. you even said you became successful.

in reality just live your best life at all ages... but realize if Jeff bezo’s starts dating a 20 year old dime... she will probably be fcking some young stud on the side...

no... she will not risk losing him. also, loyalty is based in personality. if she a cheater, she's gonna cheat. if not, then most likely no. it's like saying guys only date attractive women. once they become ugly and old, most guys leave. this is not usually the case. that being said, gold diggers are very good at finding victims but they don't make up the majority of women.

I think there was a study of foreign brides. the divorce rate was either the same or the women did not divorce as much even though there was an age gap, etc...

 

[Bigpapa]

I honestly can't believe i look 15 years older than the other guys, sorry ) . Dinu maxer is a celebrity. He has the physicians and the expensive stuff to get him going. And he looks WAY YOUNGER? Really? ) As a non drinker and non smoker, did i aged this badly? )) And what do you mean by "These travel groups are not a great way to get laid / find a relationship"?

I did not said that you age badly, I just said that your age can be seen

I am 34 soon and most girls think that I am mid 20s - early late 20s

Another good example is @mikedee, he is your age but he looks like someone who is like late 20s

And it is not about that you can not still find girls bellow 30, just that these option is not readily available if the age gap is very noticeable

Just as an example, if you look like you are 40 and you talk with a girl that is 20 or early 20, you look like her dad. Unless she does not have severe daddy issues, very difficult to take out from her head that you look like her father

Not impossible what you want, but you will need a lot of luck too to pull off what you want without putting the effort in the not so great characteristics that you have

 

[savi0r]

I never had an issue with age till the conversation in this thread. No one told me I look older than my age, and I went out with much younger girls and my social circle is 10 years younger that me. That's why I was baffled somehow. I guess it's a matter of subjectivity. And I said before I don't look for girls in the 20' or early 20's group age. Of course that at 37 myself there will be 15 years age gap difference . Of course it will be seen. The age gap I am going is 7-10 years max. That is realistic for me.

 

[Bigpapa]

I never had an issue with age till the conversation in this thread. No one told me I look older than my age, and I went out with much younger girls and my social circle is 10 years younger that me. That's why I was baffled somehow. I guess it's a matter of subjectivity. And I said before I don't look for girls in the 20' or early 20's group age. Of course that at 37 myself there will be 15 years age gap difference . Of course it will be seen. The age gap I am going is 7-10 years max. That is realistic for me.

Best of luck!

Keep us posted on your progress

 

[savi0r]

Thanks man. I'm enthusiastic about 2024. I have a good feeling ) I hope the best for you all.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

If a man takes care of himself physically, nutritionally and is working on improving himself financially and other ways then absolutely.

If not he will become a fat ass with ever increasing health issues and you'll be scraping the bottom of the barrel at best with women.

Your choice. Choose wisely.

 

[lubstur]

This is why it does not get better for men with age. Unless a man has a substantial amount of money, he will be relegated to pursuing women close to his own age in his 30s/40s/50s. After around ages 30-35, money becomes a bigger part of the SMV equation for men.

When you say substantial, are you talking about more than 6 figures? At that point, isn't it just attracting mostly gold diggers?

 

[SW15]

When you say substantial, are you talking about more than 6 figures? At that point, isn't it just attracting mostly gold diggers?

Far more than low six figures. We have a thread here about how men in the low six figures are getting crapped on.

Women Don't Want a Semi-Successful Man

Men in this category, $75k-$125k salary, relatively in shape, drive a good car, has a few hobbies, women do not want. Why? Because this man has standards. Women do not want to work for their men. Women of today want a simp or a millionaire. Simple as that. This is what society aka social media...

www.sosuave.net

Low six figures means nothing in expensive cities like New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Seattle. It doesn't even mean anything in a less expensive city like Atlanta or Dallas.

Women have embraced being in the workforce since some point in the 1970s. Women who were born in the 1980s-1990s grew up after Second Wave Feminism and expected to be working and earning their own money. When women earn their own money, they aren't economically dependent upon men AND they start asking for more male money to be impressed. A man making $100,000 a year at age 35 isn't that impressive when a woman is making $80,000 a year at age 33.

It's not even gold diggers who expect men to make money. It's the women who got bachelor's degrees and have been climbing the corporate ladder, working in law, working in medicine, etc.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

When you say substantial, are you talking about more than 6 figures? At that point, isn't it just attracting mostly gold diggers?

Far more than low six figures. We have a thread here about how men in the low six figures are getting crapped on.

If you rely on money to be attractive, you will be fishing for gold diggers and thieves.

 

[Scaramouche]

If you rely on money to be attractive, you will be fishing for gold diggers and thieves.

Hi Amsterdam,
Well said....As my Old Mum would say"Never so battered the pot,that you cant find a lid for it,Some of these smug posts are just so disheartening to many young blokes...If you haven't got a Six Pack,if you aren't a six footer,if you haven't got a Flash Motor,if you don't earn $200 grand....I think these Guys are hiding behind these excuses to make up for the laziness of not living and developing their personalities!

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

If you haven't got a Six Pack,if you aren't a six footer,if you haven't got a Flash Motor,if you don't earn $200 grand....I think these Guys are hiding behind these excuses to make up for the laziness of not living and developing their personalities!

Looks/Money/Status has to compensate for a lack of charm and personality, yes.

 

[Machine10033]

If you haven't got a Six Pack,if you aren't a six footer,if you haven't got a Flash Motor,if you don't earn $200 grand....I think these Guys are hiding behind these excuses to make up for the laziness of not living and developing their personalities!

absolutely.... the only thing a man can do is do his best. My best friend growing up is 5ft5.... he was always bitter. In our 20’s when we would head out he would get angry because girls ignored him. I turned him onto this site. He spent years becoming a better man... working out, dressing better, became a fire fighter, went to toast masters, started traveling, took up wine making and brewing beer.... he essentially maxed himself out and made his life interesting. He ended up dating and marrying a decent 7...I think it is important for men to be realistic as well. If your already 6ft or above, muscular, well off and personable.... your max will be higher than my buddy.... if he sat there thinking he was failing because he wasn’t able to get laid by 9’s and 10’s he would have probably become black pill and gave up. Simply ask yourself... if I had a vagina...what would make me want to spend time with myself. If you can’t come up with some reasons ... get to work

 

[Manure Spherian]

.If you haven't got a Six Pack,if you aren't a six footer,if you haven't got a Flash Motor,if you don't earn $200 grand....

These are also the words of men who seek women who rank significantly higher in socioeconomic status and looks. I stuck to women who were similar to me in both.

Dr. Glover was correct when he said average men seeking gorgeous women are setting themselves up for being alone on Friday nights.

 

[Millard Fillmore]

As my Old Mum would say"Never so battered the pot,that you cant find a lid for it,Some of these smug posts are just so disheartening to many young blokes...If you haven't got a Six Pack,if you aren't a six footer,if you haven't got a Flash Motor,if you don't earn $200 grand....I think these Guys are hiding behind these excuses to make up for the laziness of not living and developing their personalities!

Yep

 

[Millard Fillmore]

Whose semen are you retaining? lolz

Lol this will be the next Silicon Valley billionaire health trend.

 

[lubstur]

It's not even gold diggers who expect men to make money. It's the women who got bachelor's degrees and have been climbing the corporate ladder, working in law, working in medicine, etc.

*Edit: Reread your post, you're saying these type of women are paving the standard for a successful 35 yo man right?

I'd highly suggest my brothers not to go for these lawyer/doctor/corporate women. These type of women to me are niche and really unattractive. Lawyers/doctors/corporate workers are usually late 20s-early 30s. These type of women have worked harder, are more ambitious and are more goal driven than any other average man, they probably have more masculinity than your next door Bob. Also their idea of status and success is grossly unrealistic after being exposed to their workforce.

Personality-wise I have not met a lawyer/doctor/corporate worker I found genuinely down to earth. No normal person chooses these kind of jobs, and these jobs I believe changes you as a person.

Low six figures means nothing in expensive cities like New York, Los Angeles, San Francisco, and Seattle. It doesn't even mean anything in a less expensive city like Atlanta or Dallas.

A man making $100,000 a year at age 35 isn't that impressive when a woman is making $80,000 a year at age 33.

Makes sense, I agree.

 

[SW15]

I'd highly suggest my brothers not to go for these lawyer/doctor/corporate women. These type of women to me are niche and really unattractive. Lawyers/doctors/corporate workers are usually late 20s-early 30s. These type of women have worked harder, are more ambitious and are more goal driven than any other average man, they probably have more masculinity than your next door Bob. Also their idea of status and success is grossly unrealistic after being exposed to their workforce.

Personality-wise I have not met a lawyer/doctor/corporate worker I found genuinely down to earth. No normal person chooses these kind of jobs, and these jobs I believe changes you as a person.

Men should avoid women with corporate careers, lawyers, and doctors. Men should avoid women with advanced degrees for the most part. Very few women with advanced degrees will make good girlfriends, let alone good wives.

These women are commonly ages 27-28+ and commonly found on swipe apps.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

You should avoid anyone who takes a calculator to see if you have a match.

 

[Isildur1]

https://mindful-masculinity.org/202...e-time-than-women-in-the-sexual-market-place/ wrote a blog piece a while ago… I think the answer is it depends how proactive a man will be in creating options for themselves - how well men can maintain their smv and whether or not men put genuine effort in improving said smv overtime for some men it’s a big task that can’t be done others can thrive overtime

 

[buddhafukko]

One online article said a mens sexual desirability peaks at 50

This sort of meme has been pushed in the past decades. It's blatant anti-natalist population reduction psyop. Any ****head who thinks women want a man 20 or even 10 years older is straight up delusional. Women want men around their same age. Older women prefer younger men, just like men prefer younger women. Even Elon ****ing Musk is less desirable at 50 then he was at 40 or 30. It's downright moronic that men actually believe this ****. The key is to be very successful while still young, and stay that way. Getting old doesn't make you better, and certainly not more attractive.