Do men even care anymore?

[CaptHowdy]

I forgot to add that two of my buddies have Filipino wives now. They went with women in their 40’s and they are still pretty good looking. Both couples have been together 5 plus years.

if I wanted a wife I’d probably check it out, but I’m comfortable with the occasional “pump and dump” for now.

 

[DJ Novice]

Women are initially attracted to guys with confidence and a personality who can make them laugh, stimulate their emotions, treat them well without simping, listen to them talk without talking about and big noting themselves and dominating the conversation and are not afraid to voice their own opinions. This is the ‘spark’ that women talk about.

If you dress and groom well, work out so you have a decent physique, wear nice cologne (in short be attractive, not unattractive) and can hold a conversation you will be ahead of most guys at least initially.

Money and status do make a difference as well but these can be more harder to generate.

 

[BaronOfHair]

Yeah, i've seen lots of studies and articles and stuff over the last 4-5 years. Stuff that says 'young people are having less sex than ever before!' etc which is kind of big. Most guys, just aren't getting laid anymore. And most of those who do get laid aren't doing so with the sort of girls they truly want!

It's only very recently that i've noticed more of an apathy about it, though. Frustration has been replaced with a kind of acceptance. I have a fairly large social circle and can see lots of it first hand. Guys haven't gotten CLOSE to getting laid for YEARS. Normal guys with decent jobs etc. They go to the gym too. They could get laid (with very average looking girls) if they put some effort in (way way more approaches and just being more social), but they know that they aren't good looking enough (or famous lol) to get the young smokeshows they desire and they seem to be content with other avenues of pleasure. Travelling, sports, videogames, gym etc.

Similar with lots of the younger guys I work with. I talk to them about this stuff. I think the blackpill is just so mainstream nowadays and it's just impossible to argue against it. (them guys also have good looking friends who clean up with girls and they can't ignore how it all works, just like the generation before them! maybe the smartphone stopped girls having to settle at all lol. Now the hot ones can hit up an nfl player on insta! ). But yeah, the interesting thing in recent years is that some of that 'frustration' i'd previously seen seems to have waned. They seem to be content enough with gym and videogames etc, and i'm assuming online p0rn etc. Leaving the hot girls to celebs and just guys who hit the genetic lottery lol.

Inevitable result of MGTOW's chief evangelists preaching "Society doesn't care about you, so retreat from it, until The Gender Gods rain fire down on Western Civilization, for not maintaining The Golden Age that was The 1950s, where life was a paradise for anyone born male. Then, we'll build the Kingdom Of Heaven on Earth, one free of all bias, prejuduice, and social inequality against men"

And entirely too many men never asking either MGTOW's preachers or themselves: "When did it become society's obligation to not simply provide everyone with unobstructed access to opportunity, but to CARE for us? As if we're toddlers"

 

[BaronOfHair]

Females being delusional with their demands is why there are more men checking out of the dating market, which is what this thread is about

The Manosphere rendition of The Woke Left's favorite canards: "The ills which disproportionately trouble the world's non-whites are MOSTLY the fault of colonialism and White Western meddling. It's not remotely possible that at least 50% of what keeps The Third World in squalor is some of the behavior that's epidemic among folk who reside in those benighted parts of the globe"

As enjoyable as saying such things may make us FEEL temporarily, they also deprive us of our power to really ameliorate our own hardships

 

[Ottocinclus]

Noticing less traffic from newcomers and male dating advice content in general. It seems to have fell after Andrew Tate was taken down. In addition, I notice higher female ratios out in public now as opposed to sausage fests.

I never go out specifically to meet women anymore, yeah, but I've gotten way more into my hobbies and connecting with people along those lines. Surfing, cycling, nutrition/health groups, and others. I've even taken up playing pool. I never realized, before, that the local pool sharks congregate late in the evening at a bar by my house. Now I'm in the crew.

Funny, I meet way more women this way, without even trying. They usually just start the conversation or find some other way to "open" me. Unfortunately, my current venues still have a higher sausage ratio, but I do notice the higher female ratios at more mainstream places.

 

[PalmaSailor]

All I can say is it seems that young men right now are in a very bad place.