Do Men Commit Suicide Over A Woman?

[Epic Days]

Trudeau is def a woman in disguise

I think he is worse than that. At least a woman is being a woman.

 

[Korrupt]

I was thinking about this tonight, while sipping on a vodka and listening to some Progressive House music.

Who the fuk is willing to kill themselves over some bish? I mean really?

I have had my fare share of breakups.. Some long term.. But that thought has NEVER entered my mind.

However.. I hear alot of men kill themselves, when a woman dumps him or leaves him for another.

What are your thoughts on this? Are you aware of any man who did this?

I am pretty sure these men who did take there own lives, more than likely got involved with highly toxic, borderline woman, cluster B woman!

Doesn't surprise me in the least. The actual biological meaning of life is to procreate. So essentially, the meaning of life is to find a woman. That biological NEED + love = disaster when they leave you.

 

[Spaz]

Lol Spaz you okay brother. What is your issue exactly? I am genuinely curious. What exactly did someone say that you didn't like? Do you think some people are being fake or something?

Then I'll teach you something today.

Listen well and then you will be able to surpass ur limits.

If you want to improve then you hv to move forward under pressure.

And the biggest pressure is none other then life or death.

The control of ur external skills comes 1st.

2nd is control over emotions.

Those emotions are Anger, Anxiety, Fright, Fear, Pensiveness and Grief.

Those 2 must be controlled simultaneously in order for you to fully surpass ur limitations and enter into another level that far exceeds where you are now.

 

[Epic Days]

I did. That’s why I explained Ronald Regan didn’t run our country for 11 years.

I’ll leave the childish insults for those evidently more older and mature than I am.

There was no insult sir. I have no need to do that. I merely wrote historical fact. Look it up

 

[Pandora]

I AM cherry picking. In most cases, yes. I wouldn’t just say mothers and wives, but certainly not cut out to do the most skilled and important jobs, but neither are about 30% of men. It’s well proven that men’s intelligence is a wider variance. More geniuses. Also, more thick as pigsh1t.

in my professional experience, I’ve worked with a lot of blue collar companies - haulage, factories etc, and the number of which are essentially operationally run by a Middle Aged woman on about £15,000 a year is scary. They run payroll, HR, pretty much an operations director. Not the visionary work, not the business planning, but the company ticks over with a lot of their work, and would collapse without them. I also know in the admin team that work for me, it’s usually women who are the most organised, and get things done on time.

I would completely disagree that the majority of women are any more only fit to be wife’s and mothers. A lot of men are only fit to fix trucks and lift palettes, or cannon fodder.

Loads of completely useless men out there

If it’s quoting exceptions, which it is, that’s the entire point I’m making, I won’t lose 10 times out of 10. More like 7/10.

The general narrative is “women can only be wives and mothers and are an emotional mess”
I’m just saying that isn’t an absolute. There are some roles that women are better suited for. Not generally MD, pilot, engineer etc. Yet, there are only a few men who can do that. We can’t ride the coat tails of these men and claim for their achievements as a gender. The top 30% of women are far more competent than the bottom 30%, hell, I’d go to bottom 50% of men. Your female GP is certainly more competent than the guy who works at the petrol station. Or the bouncer/security guard, and fulfils a more important economic role.

You are too focused on careerism. We are not talking about careerism. Of course you can train a woman to be competent at any job. No one is arguing that they are mentally handicapped. We are arguing that they are not designed for these roles. They are best designed to be mothers and nurturers. We didn't say that they can ONLY do those things. I can take a Toyota Camry off roading but it wasnt designed for that. The studies are proving us correct. Career women are as unhappy as ever.

Women do not have the same tolerance for stress that men have. This is why they cry under basic work stress. Women do not have the same creative capacity. This is why there is a dearth of women comedians, authors, directors etc. Its not that the patriarchy is holding them down. It is because they have no interest in those things. This should be self evident. I don't know if you are being intellectually dishonest on purpose or you actually don't see vast differences between men and women.

Why would nature/ God create a sexually dimorphic species if it wasnt for us to pursue different roles? Answer that question before you reply.

Women are happiest when they are nurturing small children. They are happiest when they are creating a wonderful and comfortable domestic life. They are happiest when they watch their children grow up into happy productive adults. They are happiest when they are pleasing a good husband.

 

[Pandora]

you’re not listening to what I’m saying.

I’m saying it isn’t black and white. There are notable exceptions. I’m not saying that’s the usual run of the mill.

so we are violently agreeing. There were quite a few comments basically saying women are only fit to be baby machines. That’s demonstrably false for millions of women.

that’s all, if you agree there are exceptions, then we’re agreed. You have to be special kind of bitter to write off half of humanity as fundamentally worthless. I know quite a few couples where the woman is more competent than the man.

Example: when I was an adviser, I was always told to talk money and finance to the woman in a blue collar household and to the man in a white collar one. There are millions of swamp life men working in construction, and manual work who can barely read and write. There are very, very few women this academically stupid. So don’t ignore the millions of complete ****wit males.

Oh and women are an emotional mess. Don't even try to say otherwise. ANY man who has a lot of experience with female friends knows this. I heard a man once say something to the effect of " a mans greatest battle is his sexuality, a woman greatest battle is her emotional instability"....If you deny this FACT then you are being very biased and there is no point debating this. Women will even tell you that they go through a range of emotions throughout the day.

The biggest difference between men and women is that women are fine living in delusion. They have a high capacity for intellectual dishonesty and cognitive dissonance. A woman can hold two opposing feelings in her mind and never rectify these feelings. They can say I am strong and independent, but then say I want a man to pay for dinner. They can say I don't like people that body shame but yet I want a man with a big dong and I don't like short men. Ya see Fruitbat.......they are inherently delusional. It is the mans job to snap them back into reality. It is their job to teach us how to love our children. We each have roles.

Start at the 6 min mark of the video...the first part is not funny

 

[Pandora]

also, most, but not all, are happy looking after children.
The way you paint it, it’s like you think women are a subspecies unable to do anything except care for kids.

there are plenty of women in the world much more intelligent and capable than you.

You are projecting your feelings on to what I am sayin. Give me ONE place where I ever called women a subspecies. Most men adore women. We need them. They complement us. They are just as valuable as men are. They are vital. But they are only amazing at their roles of motherhood and domestic caretaker. Most women are not competitive against men in anything else. The best of any career are usually men. This is a statistical fact. Yes, you do have exceptions.

Your issue is that you secretly think motherhood and caretaker is demeaning. This is why you have such an issue with what I am saying. Raising and teaching young children how to love is not demeaning. It is the most important job there is. You need to do soul searching and fix your inner beliefs.

 

[Pandora]

my last girlfriend prior to my wife was an artist who wrote short stories. Russian.

she didn’t want kids. That’s why we split.

I would wager on the whole, it’s not a lack of capacity to be creative, it’s a lack of drive to dedicate ones entire life to one endeavour. It’s the lack of competitive spirit to reach the apex in a given field.
It’s also a lack of spacial awareness and orderly thinking. However, women’s brains have several further centres of communication versus our one. It’s why more men stutter and have speech impediments. If we have a damaged brain in our communication centre, we have a hard time. Women have many more, hence less chance of developing a stutter.

my current wife has cried about 3 times in 2 years, none of which was related to work.

fvck knows what kind of women you guys are meeting!

I completely take your point on comedians. Women are appalling at comedy.

also, most, but not all, are happy looking after children.
The way you paint it, it’s like you think women are a subspecies unable to do anything except care for kids.

there are plenty of women in the world much more intelligent and capable than you.

If women were meant to be career women how come they are not happy now? They have had over 60 yrs of this career woman stuff and they are as miserable as ever. If you can answer this I will concede your point and I will shut up.

 

[Robert28]

Date a borderline woman once long enough, go through all that and then if you don’t feel like contemplating suicide after all that you are one mentally touch mofo.

 

[Alvafe]

for the whole, you guys need to remember, with most here like to say

woman look for guidance, they need guidance, security, be inserted in a group, all of that to let then know how to behave, and to feel secure, tell me guys how many woman you know they live alone in a house? I don't know any, most are or with kids or live alone in a apartament, why? security, woman need a group to be inserted, again for security and as a way to gauge what she can do and can't.


so tell me what you guys see?the behavior bar nowadays is pretty low, most woman can't discern what the hell they are doing, most find strange, or a foreign thinking in holding yourself as better then yesterday, most can't for the life of then think in leaving anything for the future.


now for men killing thenselfs because of woman? of course that happen, I even remember a old tom and jerry cartoon then tom in just in the rail waiting for the train pass over him, and in the end jerry see his GF leaving with another guy, with he goes and do the same.

and that is from a time very diferent from today

 

[Pandora]

i agree. I don’t like career women and never have. I don’t think they should be pressured into it, or anything like that. I’m saying SOME women are inherently talented beyond child rearing and make useful contributions to the world, and SOME are more emotionally stable than SOME men.

Yeh duh. We said from the beginning that there are exceptions. The lowest form of argument is when people say " yeh but not ALL are like that". Yeh no sh!t. Not all people have two legs but we argue in generalizations in order to save time.

My whole point is that in GENERAL women have different ways of processing data. They are not logical. They are prone to cognitive dissonance and herd mentality. This does not make them inferior. They have to be this way because their primary role is to raise children. You want an illogical herd mentality type of person raising young children. The logical, strict, sterile, unloving nature of men is not good for raising children.

If you let women (who are illogical) run **** it will **** up because thats not their role. Yes there are some exceptions.
The director at the lab I work at is a woman. She is amazing. Tough, calm, smart etc. But she is an exception. From the very first post I have said that there are exceptions. She is not the average everyday chick. But what is the point of arguing an exception dude. I think you just want to argue because arguing about exceptions serves no purpose.

And I have been RedPill since 2003. I was 17 yrs old when I first stumbled on this community. I am not new to this.

 

[Pandora]

you’re logical, strict and sterile because you work in a lab, bro. Don’t assume we’re all autistic

Why are women unhappy as ever if they were so cut out for careers? Don't avoid the question. Are we going to debate like men or are we going to insult each other.

 

[Epic Days]

my last girlfriend prior to my wife was an artist who wrote short stories. Russian.

I see that this (Creativity) should be defined more clearly. Let’s talk about creativity as it applies to the world in which we live.

we are talking about creativity as it applies to survival. In other words, a man can think of a way to make tires out of carbon and not rubber.
There are plenty of studies done so you can easily verify anything I say.

The science is “spacial orientation & acuity”. Let’s say a man has a problem moving heavy objects. He formulates in his mind and extrapolates a workable solution. He invents the wheel. His mind creates it first and then he works it out to build. This is reverse engineering.
Things as simple as an electric toothbrush was conceived by the male mind. The “Y” chromosome.

On these testings, even the most brightest woman scores a little less than even the average man.

The turning of ideas into actual physical creation is “Y” chromosome gifted. Around here we call it logic or we throw around silly things like women are emotional. Etc. etc. etc.

So let’s take women writers. They operate on “variation of a theme”. Overwhelmingly the romance novel.
look at the top ten writers. Top ten painters, present and historically.

Everybody knows a girl with a camera is a photographer, right?

So creativity should really have been defined better.

 

[Alvafe]

I see that this (Creativity) should be defined more clearly. Let’s talk about creativity as it applies to the world in which we live.

we are talking about creativity as it applies to survival. In other words, a man can think of a way to make tires out of carbon and not rubber.
There are plenty of studies done so you can easily verify anything I say.

The science is “spacial orientation & acuity”. Let’s say a man has a problem moving heavy objects. He formulates in his mind and extrapolates a workable solution. He invents the wheel. His mind creates it first and then he works it out to build. This is reverse engineering.
Things as simple as an electric toothbrush was conceived by the male mind. The “Y” chromosome.

On these testings, even the most brightest woman scores a little less than even the average man.

The turning of ideas into actual physical creation is “Y” chromosome gifted. Around here we call it logic or we throw around silly things like women are emotional. Etc. etc. etc.

So let’s take women writers. They operate on “variation of a theme”. Overwhelmingly the romance novel.
look at the top ten writers. Top ten painters, present and historically.

Everybody knows a girl with a camera is a photographer, right?

So creativity should really have been defined better.

mostly because how they work, or like some woman love to spell, this woman did this, that woman did that, you can count in your hands, now how many mens made things? we don't even know the names of the guys, because in the end it don't matter much, they work still lives, now for woman we need to know the names because they are importants....

the whole thing again is just a way to control people, creativity today is related to arts, now on how good you are at solving problems, we also know art is useless, art only prosper after all our basic needs are done and there surplus of money so the rich can spend they money on useless arts, with today for some strange reason, people like to sell art is important, with is not

but also we would just lose focus, we can't change the world, if we can't change ourselfs, i'm far more to self improvement then world improvement, work on yourself then after see what happen

 

[MrWood]

Many men have committed suicide over a woman
Not one woman has ever killed herself over a man

funny how that works out...

hint: men and women love differently

 

[Medina]

I would argue the stats are skewed for one simple reason

Men are braver than women and thus more likely to carry out a suicidal act

There is discrepancy in that men tend to linger heartache for much longer

And women seem to move on quite fast and more brutally than men

Don't get me wrong, a woman's love is intense and obsessive for a while

But after that it's not uncommon to drop to literally ZERO

 

[sosousage]

Yes I'm aware of one, he was bipolar though.

Honestly, it doesn't surprise me at all. Often women leave at your lowest point so it's the last nail in the coffin. Imagine you're already down and then you get that ****ty text or catch her cheating.

true,a lot of men suicide over that, and oftey their lives are ruined even before break up

 

[marmel75]

Yeah sometimes. No woman is worth that.

 

[stovepipe]

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Many men have committed suicide over a woman
Not one woman has ever killed herself over a man

funny how that works out...

hint: men and women love differently

Negative ghost rider. Women definitely commit suicide over a man, it is more on the rare side as we know. But it's not over a good guy, it's over a dominant male or cluster B. Just this past month I've read 2 stories about women who killed their kids then themselves because their husbands left them. Suicide rates are rising to scary levels. With female suicide rates also steadily rising each year. It's going get to a lot worse too over the coming years.

I've helped women overcome Cluster B relationships and some of them told me they were contemplating suicide. So you know women have, we just don't really hear about it.

Most men don't realize how important it is to be dominant. That's what women want, that's what a man is supposed to be. When a women finds that dominant man, she falls head over heals for him, he leads, she follows. If he's also good in bed, then she got herself something she'd do anything for, along losing her got dam mind if she lost him or caught him cheating. Those are the women that would take their lives over a man.

I think most of us men will agree that when we do actually love a women, it is on a deeper level than a women is capable of. Women's love is on the surface or her heart, her love is short lived. Where as a man, the love settles deep in the heart. After he gets dumped, the man is in shock, depressed, in pain, only thinking about trying to get her back. Where as the women moves on like you never existed, then drives herself to the amusement park and buys a season pass so she can ride the cawk carousel in order to not have to deal with her own emotions.

 

[2Rocky]

Anyone who knew this guy.......

Certainly thought it was over a woman.....Although CTE was a convenient excuse.

Or maybe it was the Clinton's...