Direct Approach

[IWillReturnsoon]

Accidental post.

 

[greenlake]

DANG ZERO, CALM DOWN! You sound like a angry and bitter kbj who hasn't jerk off to porn for weeks. You're just making picking up chick 10 times more harder than it is. Stop putting a mask on, just let go of your ego and be yourself. It's that simple. That's all I have to say.

btw, what's with all the insult about me man? I have lose all respect for you after reading those posts. I was hoping that we could have some mature and fun debate. But I guess some people just can't handle the heat. And me getting the same result over and over? Hahah, you act like you know me. YOU DON'T FVCKING KNOW ME. So stop trying, i'm more happier than 99.9% of the guys on here.

And I wasn't being sarcastic when I told you guys I got 3 numbers......more like bragging. hahah.

 

[zerocelcius]

DANG ZERO, CALM DOWN! You sound like a angry and bitter kbj who hasn't jerk off to porn for weeks. You're just making picking up chick 10 times more harder than it is. Stop putting a mask on, just let go of your ego and be yourself. It's that simple. That's all I have to say.

btw, what's with all the insult about me man? I have lose all respect for you after reading those posts. I was hoping that we could have some mature and fun debate. But I guess some people just can't handle the heat. And me getting the same result over and over? Hahah, you act like you know me. YOU DON'T FVCKING KNOW ME. So stop trying, i'm more happier than 99.9% of the guys on here.

And I wasn't being sarcastic when I told you guys I got 3 numbers......more like bragging. hahah.

Nice to hear from you GL. I wasn't attacking you personally. Unlike your response. I plead the fifth on the porn.

I am not making it more difficult I am making it more successful/fun. I like masks; that is why Halloween is my favorite holiday. I have become somewhat of a KBJ lately. I admit it. I am in a relationship and can no longer DON. So like they say "those who can do, and those that can't teach." Bad part of getting the girl.

It is impossible to let go of your ego! Or you’re ID. Psychology 101

I didn't insult you I was using you as an example for this form of DA. If you were insulted I apologies. I only meant to show that by using this form of DA it doesn't make you a better person it just makes you fail in the field.

You have done some great stuff out there I have told you that on your post. I tried to give you some advice and you told me you didn't want my help. Your choice. You are stuck on this form of DA and closed off to the rest of the universe of seduction. You have the roots to be great and get what ever you want out of life. IF you learned to adapt your game for each and every DIFFRENT situation.

Everyone on your post tells you how you are doing so well. I agree you are doing great as far as getting out there. What they aren't saying is how you can grow and develop your own style. Using one form of DA isn't skills (plural) it is skill (singular.)

Ask your self this do you like one dimensional or three dimensional? By using the same approach and method you are using a one dimensional method. If you read Derek Flints DA he does a lot of things that you have to read between the lines to see.

1. He sets his standard before ever leaving the house. Only goes to places where he is going to find the caliber of girl he is comfortable with.

2. Sets his mind set. He builds him self up. You can see it in his responses and remarks. Makes it sound he is better than everyone. Being the Prize.

3. When he singles out his target he makes her his in his mind. He adopts the attitude that "her a$$ is his"!

etc....

Again I think it is some what pompous, arrogant, and stuffy but it is his method. He found and developed his game. I see your FR and you use the same line over and over. You approach every girl you find attractive and that is great!!!! But it sounds almost like you are begging these girls to accept you. That isn't how a guy gets respect or attraction.

Tell them to be attracted to you, but use finesse and body language. Joke with them; get them laughing. Flirt with them; get them wet. Neg them; get them feisty. etc.

You have the inner game. If you started to develop your outer game more and dropped that begging game you are using now you would get a lot more than some #'s.

You are right I don't know you. I am very glad that you are happy. Do you know 99.9% of the guys on here? Say hi to them next time you hang out.

 

[ChrizZ]

bump

a little bit more about Direct Approach.

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

Trust me, coming tomorrow...i'll have a LONG A55 comment in terms of this thread. :-D

 

[greenlake]

THanks for the huge reply zero. See? Why can't we talk to eachother like that? btw, all i need to know was that you're not insulting me.

Wow...you got a gf? good job.

I dunno who Derek is, he must be really good if a few guys on here say so. but u got to remember he doesn't become good over night. be patience my old man.

About the skill thing I don't see direct as a skill but more like a mindset. I like the "i go after what i want" feeling. I do agree with you that my opener seem boring, but i was genuine about it.....they're really pretty. Now.....it would be wrong if i walk up to a fat ugly chick and tell her "u're pretty and i want to get to know you. It will be more on the side of "hey, you know burgers king is over there, right?" I still feel nervous when approaching and talking to girls at the moment so i can't think straight. I think this is when times come into play. btw, it might seem bored to u cause u probably read it 20 times. but it's their first time for every single girl. not every girl would call the next one i'll approach "hey, there will be a wierd asian guy walking up to u and call you pretty." it's all in your head my friend.

i agree with you about the dimension thing. My next objective is to improve my conversation skills and hopefully some e/c. But all those skills would go to waste if i still have the fear of rejections and AA for some reasons. we need to get rid of that before we start to improve on other aspect of our life imo.

letting go of your ego is possible. by throwing away ur past, stop worrying about the future and face the present is the best way. or you just not give a fvck. which is the best way.

neg them? flirt with them? body language? joke with them? funny how a lot of guys say "do not put her on the pedestal." but instead they do the opposite by worrying too much. she is not gold you guys nor is she a ancient puzzle. wow...instead of thinking about all these, why not....be yourself? she will see it sooner or later.

looking forward to read your reply. =)

btw, i don't like halloween.

 

[Omen]

bump

a little bit more about Direct Approach.

That sounded like a bit from Derek Flint. Maybe that's him Who knows. At least that intro of the line sounded like what Derek posted.

And if he used it from that guy, then its all good with me. What ever works.

 

[zerocelcius]

THanks for the huge reply zero. See? Why can't we talk to eachother like that? btw, all i need to know was that you're not insulting me.

Wow...you got a gf? good job.

I dunno who Derek is, he must be really good if a few guys on here say so. but u got to remember he doesn't become good over night. be patience my old man.

About the skill thing I don't see direct as a skill but more like a mindset. I like the "i go after what i want" feeling. I do agree with you that my opener seem boring, but i was genuine about it.....they're really pretty. Now.....it would be wrong if i walk up to a fat ugly chick and tell her "u're pretty and i want to get to know you. It will be more on the side of "hey, you know burgers king is over there, right?" I still feel nervous when approaching and talking to girls at the moment so i can't think straight. I think this is when times come into play. btw, it might seem bored to u cause u probably read it 20 times. but it's their first time for every single girl. not every girl would call the next one i'll approach "hey, there will be a wierd asian guy walking up to u and call you pretty." it's all in your head my friend.

i agree with you about the dimension thing. My next objective is to improve my conversation skills and hopefully some e/c. But all those skills would go to waste if i still have the fear of rejections and AA for some reasons. we need to get rid of that before we start to improve on other aspect of our life imo.

letting go of your ego is possible. by throwing away ur past, stop worrying about the future and face the present is the best way. or you just not give a fvck. which is the best way.

neg them? flirt with them? body language? joke with them? funny how a lot of guys say "do not put her on the pedestal." but instead they do the opposite by worrying too much. she is not gold you guys nor is she a ancient puzzle. wow...instead of thinking about all these, why not....be yourself? she will see it sooner or later.

looking forward to read your reply. =)

btw, i don't like halloween.

NP!

I have had a few. Sometimes I wonder how good of a job that really is. Many times I wish I was back on the market, seducing, and hit’n different skins all the time. But than again; I am getting too old for all of that and most of the time I just want one really good girl that I can respect and does so in return.

The only reason I chose Derek Flint was he posted an example of his approach on here. I am sure it took him more than over night. Patience has never been my strong virtue!

Saying mindset or way of life instead of skills is just 100% pure semantics. May I ask why being genuine is so important to you? Why don’t you see artfully controlling the Social Interactions accordingly as being genuine? I mean understanding the psychological and sociological aspects of meeting and getting to know somebody. If I may be so bold as to compare the “DA” with the “Natural” by using a metaphor? Lets say you could play a game such as “Texas Hold’em” (Natural) or “Go Fish” (DA). Go Fish is simple and to the point and is more genuine than Texas Hold’em by far. Go Fish depends on honesty and integrity, and for the most part luck. When you ask for a card the opponent has to tell the truth, and when they do have the card they have to give it to you. Now with Texas Hold’em it is different. You don’t lie in Texas Hold’em but you sure as Hell don’t show your hand. You win by bluffing, folding, and taking chances. Yes luck has some to do with it, but not nearly as much as Go Fish.

I know it is a crazy metaphor but I think it is dead on. With DA yes you are being genuine and honest and straight forward. The end result in doing so usually depends on being lucky and finding the one girl that likes you before you even said anything. Well it isn’t like they could like you for your personality or because of the amazing conversations! Because you haven’t even spoke to them really.

With Natural Game or developed Natural Game (yes MM is a developed Natural Game) you learn the small things that matter. You become a master at social situations and control the frames. Yes it takes longer to learn and needs more nurturing, but it is a extremely successful and joyful way of living. People’s nature isn’t to be honest and straight forward. People love stepping across boundaries and knocking down fences. Sometimes they want to be the cat and other times they want to be the mouse. You win by playing. Not by the #’s you get or the FCloses.

I wasn’t saying your opener is boring because I read it so many times. I said it was boring because it does nothing but compliment and decree interest. Showing interest isn’t bad but it should be done after building comfort. Not because some PUA said so but because it is the natural way of sociology and psychology.

Flirting and using body language isn’t putting girls on pedestals. It is having fun with another human being. It is fun for you most importantly. People jump the gun when they PU. You aren’t there to meet your future wife, GF, FB, etc. You are just in the moment talking (Having fun with life.) Once the girl sparks your attraction than progress with your set goal, but never assume the end of the encounter.

Yes she is golden! If you rate her on the HB side than she is golden. If she wasn’t than why bother? If she wan’t golden than why say you want to hang out with her? You have to be honest at this point. You have to weed out the non-golden ones. She could be a HB9 but have a crappy personality (not golden). If she qualifies as golden than make her life better. She will make your life better and if she doesn’t than BAAMMM Next!! (No longer golden)

Don’t put girls on pedestals but don’t put yourself on one either. Some girls are more attractive to you than others, that doesn’t mean they are better, it just means you are attracted more. Attraction has nothing to do with pedestals. You have to be the prize, but in doing so, you can’t take away the true prize. That Prize is the JOY of life, the thrill of the chase, the sweet taste of victory, and the aroma of sex in the dark.

A good book has more than one page, a great book has more than one chapter, and the best book has no ending. (Be the best book and forever changing & never ending.)!

 

[James Dupri]

good thread, should be archived.