Direct Approach

[Derek Flint]

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I'm not gonna critizise u though. I'll first try it myself and then critizise u :rock:

Note that I am making a statement in the first example, and in the second example, stating an opinion.

"You are" is a statement.

"I think you are" is an opinion, and saying "I think" can also be misconstrued as one not being sure of themself of what they mean or are trying to convey, so I avoid "I think"

It's a subtle difference, but an important one. That is why I italicized the "I think" part in my post.

And, this is not something that can be learned and perfected overnight, so if you're expecting girls to swoon over you you're first time out, you're going to be disappointed.

As you will if you think it won't work, and are out to prove me wrong.

Nor is it something that is effective if it is not genuine, not a part of the real you.

And yes, one of the advantages of DA is that there is no confusion about your intent. You don't end up in the friend zone or anything like that. There is no ambiguity.

If you get the digits, you'll know why she gave them.

There is no hour long convo, then you ask for digits and then she drops the "boyfriend" bomb on you.

Or worse, after you've spent time and even money on her like some guys.

Someone recently posted a thread about how they met some chick, went out on a few dates, and when he finally made his move, she told him about her boyfriend.

Nothing wrong with spending a few dollars on a girl, but it's going to be on a girl I'm already banging or will be imminently.

 

[Slick101]

Note that I am making a statement in the first example, and in the second example, stating an opinion.

"You are" is a statement.

"I think you are" is an opinion, and saying "I think" can also be misconstrued as one not being sure of themself of what they mean or are trying to convey, so I avoid "I think"

It's a subtle difference, but an important one. That is why I italicized the "I think" part in my post.

And, this is not something that can be learned and perfected overnight, so if you're expecting girls to swoon over you you're first time out, you're going to be disappointed.

As you will if you think it won't work, and are out to prove me wrong.

Nor is it something that is effective if it is not genuine, not a part of the real you.

And yes, one of the advantages of DA is that there is no confusion about your intent. You don't end up in the friend zone or anything like that. There is no ambiguity.

If you get the digits, you'll know why she gave them.

There is no hour long convo, then you ask for digits and then she drops the "boyfriend" bomb on you.

Or worse, after you've spent time and even money on her like some guys.

Someone recently posted a thread about how they met some chick, went out on a few dates, and when he finally made his move, she told him about her boyfriend.

Nothing wrong with spending a few dollars on a girl, but it's going to be on a girl I'm already banging or will be imminently.

PURE GENIUS!!

Im deff going to try "something" like this In a club becaause, I see that its a lil bit harder in that environment....

I can see exactly why this works... and I dont see the bltch shield coming as well.. and I dont even belive in those kind of shields LOL :crackup:

However, It should work on a 10 in a club environment right>?

Ill post a field report ASAP

 

[zerocelcius]

zerocelcius


http://www.sosuave.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000511.html

in this one the DA was based on looks , and Kev07 says (which you second) tha telling it to a lovely girl will not spark attraction...

how do you explain the difference??

The original DA was based on looks and he C & B. But if you read further DontheLegand uses the same DA, but he doesn’t base it on looks.

I am not saying DA is bad. I think it is best, but don't base it on looks. A woman can't help if she is a natural HB, but they can help how they dress, or how they carry them self’s. Use something they are responsible for as a person and they will be honestly flattered and not superficially flattered.

 

[ChrizZ]

@ Derek Flint

1. At what point of your life did u start getting the mindset of "Mode One"?

2. What exactly did u do to get that mindset and how long did it take u to put everything into practice?

 

[Derek Flint]

@ Derek Flint

1. At what point of your life did u start getting the mindset of "Mode One"?

2. What exactly did u do to get that mindset and how long did it take u to put everything into practice?

I've scanned over "Mode One" but have not yet really put it to full use.

I'm still doing mostly "direct" and will eventually incorporate "mode One" into my game.

As for you're 2nd point, it was a life change, not practice. No games, no lying, no manipulating people, no approaching under false pretenses, no fake games, no aquanting myself with people who are disrespectful, who lie, are fake, etc...

Started a few years ago, and it has literally changed my life in many ways, not just with HB's.

I'll try to find the post I wrote earlier and link to it that has more info.

 

[zerocelcius]

Def agree with Toughlove on this one.
But Zero...if she's not flattered...why even try to neg her? Look at her body language, if its attention is still on u or its exaggerately non-interested(Purposefully) then that means we just got to persist...since its just resistence.


As quoted from GGTW.....but i have to disagree with him saying that its absolute. Some girls simply deep down just want to be wanted for their looks...heck..some think all they need is their looks without having to worry about them having a personality....hence some hot girls out there.

For some reason Paris Hilton's image comes to mind.... I don't know...weird.

 

[Omen]

This is a really good post and I just now read it.

To Derek or anyone else (since its Derek's approach maybe he can answer)

1. If you use the DA and say You are beautiful..... is it ok to slip in her name if you notice you are at a place she has a name tag? Say retail, grocery, what ever. Call her Amy. Amy right? Amy... You are exceptionally..... I was wondering how much adding a name in there helps.

2. Since a guy doing this is really direct, is it possible to give your number to her? You go through the line you said you do, then say.. I would really like to get to know you better. Can you toss in... Here is my number so we can set up a day and time for dinner Amy. Then kind of say... enjoy your day and walk off?

Its almost like you put that WOW zap on her and she's frozen, so I figured why not add that to it. Or is it better to hope you get the number and wait? I feel like that car is rolling on that whole DA, so keep it rolling by writing the number down on a card.

 

[Chez]

This is a really good post and I just now read it.

To Derek or anyone else (since its Derek's approach maybe he can answer)

1. If you use the DA and say You are beautiful..... is it ok to slip in her name if you notice you are at a place she has a name tag? Say retail, grocery, what ever. Call her Amy. Amy right? Amy... You are exceptionally..... I was wondering how much adding a name in there helps.

2. Since a guy doing this is really direct, is it possible to give your number to her? You go through the line you said you do, then say.. I would really like to get to know you better. Can you toss in... Here is my number so we can set up a day and time for dinner Amy. Then kind of say... enjoy your day and walk off?

Its almost like you put that WOW zap on her and she's frozen, so I figured why not add that to it. Or is it better to hope you get the number and wait? I feel like that car is rolling on that whole DA, so keep it rolling by writing the number down on a card.

To your question # 1
If you got the name use it, makes her feel more comfortable around you and it also create a type of bond/familiarity.

To your question # 2 this may help (it worked for me but never tried it with a DA like DEREK's).

During the conversation at the high point you do this (i know things are really going well at this point but that's what makes it the best time).

YOU: I've got to go now (no explanation needed) but i like talking to you and (take out whatever and start writing down your number) since you obviously have the hots for me i'll give you my number.
HER: She maybe in disbelieve that you said that (for this just smile) or she may try to deny it in whatever way.
YOU: (for her denial say this with direct eye contact) you say you aren't but your eyes are saying you are.
HER: (she usually breaks eye contact here in a shyish way which means you are right on the money but either way just smile and hand here the number which you should have finished writing by now).
YOU: (hold on to the number slightly and say) Before you gets this u got to do something for me!
HER: (They will usually ask what or something to that effect)
YOU: Then you say "enjoy the rest of your day" (do a little smerk smile here & PLEASE NOT A CLOWN SMILE TO SCARE THE SH*T out of her lol).

Hope this helps

 

[Omen]

And that's what I was thinking about for number one. First off, you actually took a second to get her name off her name tag and used it. I figured if its there, why not. I figured it would make her more comfortable if it was used.

Number two seems like it could work. Again you said not a DA like Derek's but it seemed to work for you. To me it seems like a DA approach can be so intense really, that a thing like that just actually flows better. Kind of like... Damn that was smooth.

I guess you could reverse it and go.. I've got to go now, but let me get your number..... (what ever)

And to me if you are going to use a line like... You are exceptionally beautiful, and hold her hand and tell her your DA stuff that she should be in such a mode as to be like... WOW that guy who could have chose other women came to me and said that. Now maybe its smooth sailing and she just goes... Let me give you my number.

Maybe it just needs to be tried both ways. I've heard before NEVER give your number to the girl. If you give yours, and move on, she'll think damn... I better call that guy. You didnt sit there like a panting puppy hoping she gives hers to you. By walking away giving yours, you told her that while you meant what you said, that she is just like any ordinary girl. See my drift? That whole suspense deal.

She could sit there and play with you a bit knowing your waiting for her number, but instead its switched. I've known women who like it more when they realize they have to get the guy. So you leave letting them want more.

 

[Mad Manic]

The haters of DA are those who can't get away with DA, usually due to not being physically attractive enough to the girls they DA and/or confidence.

The lovers of DA are those who can get away with DA, usually due to good looks, body and/or confidence.

Personally I use both direct and indirect and have decent success with both/ Usually when I do DA I get a blush, smile and then an introduction from the girl but then again I can pull it off. Unattractive guys can't.

 

[sandman6991]

DA in a group has always been a big stumbling block for me

 

[Omen]

DA in a group has always been a big stumbling block for me

Speaking of stumbling blocks, I was thinking about this earlier this afternoon.

I got to thinking about the girl I would have DA (I know her so no biggy) or other women. In fact, many I work with.

Truth be told, I dont think ANY of them have ever had a DA so they wouldn't know what to do. Lots of girls end up getting boyfriends or dates from work, class, friends of friends, etc etc.

So i'm really wondering how many DONT get the DA? I mean especially in the way that was talked about in this thread, that Derek says would melt most women. I think it could if they have never been approached that way.

I could approach 4 or 5 girls I work with and do that approach and they would say... I've never had anyone approach me like that. I mean just as a test, and not to pick them all up. I guess too it depends on the age, and maybe your area you live in and how much you venture out. I also can say that 10+ guys I work with have probably never done a DA approach either, or say they cant do it.

So in theory, maybe there aren't as many done on both ends. Guys that do them, or women who have had a DA done to them in some amazing way.

You may think... Dang, I bet every guy approaches that woman, but at the same time too, it may be... No one does cause they are all scared, and while we think 20 guys approach a day, 0 actually do.

I mean forget the club for a sec and think about a DA in every day life elsewhere. How often do you think a guy walks up to a woman in the grocery store and does that? I'm gonna say slim to none where i'm at.

 

[Agent Zero]

It is BS that women get approached often. They get "hollered at" and approached by tipsy guys mostly, but a confident, sober approach is extremely rare. I've had a girl tell me nobody had ever done it to her before and other guys who do direct have had the same experience.

 

[greenlake]

OMG!!! I just got 3 numbers today just by direct approaching.

 

[zerocelcius]

Congratz!

Keep up the DA! Maybe you can get some more phone #'s. Or even a date... or a Kiss. Ohhh Yea. God that DA is something isn't it. :yes:

You have approached so many girls and it is paying off for you finally.

Hell by the time you graduate you will have hit on every girl at school.

Still telling those girls how cute they are when you approach greenlake?

Well if it's getting you phone #'s than it has to be working. :yes:

You know what I find about this kind of DA is this:

1. It gives all other DA a bad name.
2. You have absolutely no game when using it.
3. You lie to yourself and say it is the only way to be a man...blah blah
4. You have no rapport with the girls.
5. You have nothing to talk about on the phone, or date
6. You will get a lot of wood (fake #'s)
7. You will get a lot of Flakes.
8. It uses absolutely no intelligence of social dynamics.
9. It's crap and it makes people like greenlake run all over campus telling every girl that she is cute and he wants to hang out with them (kind of like a lil puppy humping peoples legs).
10. YOU ARE TOO INTRESTED IN THESE GIRLS, YOU ARE BUILDING NO ATTRACTION, YOU ARE BUILDING NO COMFORT, YOU ARE NOT CHARMING, AND IT DOES NOT WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Omen]

And that's what sucks as you said zero. Too many women like Agent Zero said get the whole hollered at deal or approached by tipsy guys. Now I dont know much about greenlakes case, but the garbage gives REAL guys who want a sincere DA to go well go bad sometimes. You know how women are. They think the same thing is going to happen every time. As soon as you walk over its prob a.. Oh great, here comes another tard.

I can approach this girl at work and will prob literally watch her jaw drop. WHY? Because I am sincere about it, and she knows me a bit as well, and everything I say will be true, and I will mean it, and I will not put on some show and run around panting. It will be intelligent, it will have a light touch with her hand, and a real warmth to it. Almost like time stops and you two are in your own zone.

I will NOT just go up and call a... hey, your cute, let me buy you a drink a DA, or consider it a REAL DA every time someone thinks JUST cause they go up to a woman they have mastered it.

A real DA should have some though put into it, and not some stupid cheesy pick-up line along with it where you're hiding under it cause you really dont know what you are doing.

My guess greenlake, is that you are NOT doing a DA like what has been used or stated. Merely approaching a woman isn't considered a DA, or every car salesman would be masters at picking up women.

 

[zerocelcius]

And that's what sucks as you said zero. Too many women like Agent Zero said get the whole hollered at deal or approached by tipsy guys. Now I dont know much about greenlakes case, but the garbage gives REAL guys who want a sincere DA to go well go bad sometimes. You know how women are. They think the same thing is going to happen every time. As soon as you walk over its prob a.. Oh great, here comes another tard.

I can approach this girl at work and will prob literally watch her jaw drop. WHY? Because I am sincere about it, and she knows me a bit as well, and everything I say will be true, and I will mean it, and I will not put on some show and run around panting. It will be intelligent, it will have a light touch with her hand, and a real warmth to it. Almost like time stops and you two are in your own zone.

I will NOT just go up and call a... hey, your cute, let me buy you a drink a DA, or consider it a REAL DA every time someone thinks JUST cause they go up to a woman they have mastered it.

A real DA should have some though put into it, and not some stupid cheesy pick-up line along with it where you're hiding under it cause you really dont know what you are doing.

My guess greenlake, is that you are NOT doing a DA like what has been used or stated. Merely approaching a woman isn't considered a DA, or every car salesman would be masters at picking up women.

^Wisdom!

People on here now think that a DA means:

Going straight up to a girl, looking them in the eye, smiling, and saying "Your (insert pleasant adj.), I would like to get to know you"

Greenlake has a journal on here you can read it; just don't try to give advice to him.

There is this new generation that has striped the DA all the way down to bare metal and inserted this obsene notion that you should profess some Devine interest to the girl.

In reality they are taking a crappy approach that every Joe in the world does and says it is DA.

If you read Derek Flints approach you will see a lot more than just going up to a girl and expecting them to fall head over heels because they professed their love for them.

Derek Flint's DA is almost pure body language. I don't agree with his approach all the way but I can see more value in it than this other crappy DA everyone is trying.

If you look at Greenlakes FRs you will see what I mean. He uses the same opener every time.. How is that not canned? IF you use it over and over it is "canned"!!!!

On a nice note. He is relentless and with a few changes he will get it, but you have to be willing to open your mind and be flexible with every new situation.

Going up and telling somebody "YOUR INTRESTED" doesn’t mean anything. IT is crap it is worthless!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY DON'T CARE. YOU HAVE TO GET THEM TO CARE (EVEN IF THEY ARE INTRESTED YOU STILL HAVE TO BUILD ON THAT)

You have to make them care and build attraction. I am so freaking sick of hearing about this form of DA.

It is closed minded and shallow. It is based on absolutely no grounds of intelligence. It ignores every social aspect known to man. It is an acted out denial.

 

[IWillReturnsoon]

^Wisdom!

People on here now think that a DA means:

Going straight up to a girl, looking them in the eye, smiling, and saying "Your (insert pleasant adj.), I would like to get to know you"

That's direct buddy.

Greenlake has a journal on here you can read it; just don't try to give advice to him.

There is this new generation that has striped the DA all the way down to bare metal and inserted this obsene notion that you should profess some Devine interest to the girl.

Yes...you should profess your interest in her. No bull****, no games.

In reality they are taking a crappy approach that every Joe in the world does and says it is DA.

If you read Derek Flints approach you will see a lot more than just going up to a girl and expecting them to fall head over heels because they professed their love for them.

Every joe says it in an every joe way. If you say it in a confident, self assured manner...then of course u won't do like an average joe. And ur not professing ur love at all, all ur doing is stating ur intent.

Derek Flint's DA is almost pure body language. I don't agree with his approach all the way but I can see more value in it than this other crappy DA everyone is trying.

Well...wat do u know? Greenlake is starting to have dates and girls are more receptive to him. Oh...looks like its still crappy O

If you look at Greenlakes FRs you will see what I mean. He uses the same opener every time.. How is that not canned? IF you use it over and over it is "canned"!!!!

On a nice note. He is relentless and with a few changes he will get it, but you have to be willing to open your mind and be flexible with every new situation.

Sure...he used the same line over and over again. but he's still going direct. You don't have to go out of your way to always change an opener up. Keep it simple. He's still revealing his intention. But he IS changing it up as of recently. U gotta to read the updates man. Sure, "You're pretty" isn't the best direct opening but its not the worst...eventho i don't use it much eventho i started out with it.

Going up and telling somebody "YOUR INTRESTED" doesn’t mean anything. IT is crap it is worthless!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THEY DON'T CARE. YOU HAVE TO GET THEM TO CARE (EVEN IF THEY ARE INTRESTED YOU STILL HAVE TO BUILD ON THAT)

I absolutely beg to differ. Of course they care. Some will, some won't. Go for the ones that do... just don't have to go out of ur way for the females u want. Females want to be pursued, it depends on how u go about it. Saying that they won't care for that is definitely further from the truth. I've used, "I like you...i want to get to know you" quite a bit of times and i can honestly say the reaction they got was that they did care...now tell me that they didn't.
;-)

You have to make them care and build attraction. I am so freaking sick of hearing about this form of DA.

Then don't talk about it anymore...it seems u still want to. But u don't have to make them do anything...its their choice.

It is closed minded and shallow. It is based on absolutely no grounds of intelligence. It ignores every social aspect known to man. It is an acted out denial.

Seems like ur being closed minded and shallow about it as well. Like i said, the opening doesn't have to be smart, witty or super long....ok...sure sometimes its good for an opening to change up in each and every scenario but its not totally necessary. It just has to be simple and to the point....of course having the body language to match. Just because Greenlake is making an opener simple and not too too long(Eventho i definitely absolutely appreciate Derek Flint's style...which i'll see if it'll suit me as well since i tend to be more of a romantic kind of guy)doesn't mean that its crappy. He had to work on the way he was carrying himself and his body language. it is much better as of recently. So stop ragging on the guy...he's doing a good job as of lately.

 

[zerocelcius]

1. It is in a Direct way, but it is not Direct. It is boring, it is minimal, and it is a weak attempt at best.

2. IF you have that much interest in her and you can NOT CONTROL yourself than profess your interest. Make her smile be charming, but don't be 'matter of fact' about it. Make it special..... Charm her, Woo her, Sweep her off her feet! Don't state the freaking obvious! That is Lame and unattractive! It is a mild form of begging! NO BULL SH!T NO GAMES! SKILL

3. No every Joe is not a pu$$y. A lot of guys have game and they are your competition. A lot of guys are charming and they will get that girl. Not everyone is a sissy la la. You think the average guy that talks to a girl isn't confident? Most are or they wouldn’t be talking to a girl. Some are just oblivious to society. They could be rambling on and the girls could be giving those hints and still they press forward. Why state your intent?
That is like fast forwarding to the end of a movie. It is boring. Let her figure it out that is where attraction happens. You can socially rape somebody like that. They will :kick: you to the curb. Let them fall for you! Don't show up to their door step in love. Make them chase you around the world until they fall for you. Than make them chase you some more. THAT IS WHAT MAKES IT FUN!!

Would playing Tag be fun if you just stood still and let them tag you? NO so why run up to them to to get tagged? YOU DON'T you play. You have fun. You get chased. You instigate it than run.... Let them catch you and chase them back and forth visa versa.

4. What do I know? I read his FRs the poor guy is running his feet off. He is chasing every girl and they are running a lot faster than he is. He closes a set way to fast. He tells them He wants to hang out with them...

Do you know what guy girls hate the most? CLINGY CLINGY CLINGY guys. By him making a first impression that he is, they automatically see him as a potently clingy guy. They will never give him the chance to move past that image. Why should they? He is the one coming across like that. DON'T BE NEEDY. HE IS BEING NEEDY!!!

I quit reading his post when He told me he didn't want my help. I shouldn't have wasted my time.

5. YES he did use the SAME line over and over and over and over. And got the same results over and over and over. That doesn't make any of it right! WHO CARES if he is doing DA? Your approach method doesn't define who you are. Neither does getting rejected over and over and over. NEITHER does getting laid over and over and over.

Quit defending this so called method by saying he is still doing DA. IT doesn't matter if he is or isn't. There are other forms and ways of doing DA that don't trample the fundamentals in the dirt and set you up for so much failure.

GO OUT OF YOUR WAY to change an opener? Why not just used canned than? IF it is out of your way than you need to think about where your way leads.

Keeping it simple is just that: SIMPLE. I know where you guys are coming from. I really do! I want it to be simple too, but it isn't. I know you think it is guys like me that are making it complicated. It is complicated but it doesn't have to be confusing. Social Dynamics is with in it's self a field of study. So there are text books upon text books on info about it and they still don't understand it all. To assume that making it simple in your mind is going to make it simple in the field, would be like a child pulling a blanket over their head saying: "if I don't see it than it doesn't see me"! Don't work that way at all.

I will check out the update and I am glad he is making progress!

6. In a small way they do care, but not enough for them to invest in you. So in regards to that, they do not care. It is your responsibility to get them to care enough to invest. Sad but true! They do not have time to waste on every guy that likes them. EVEN if they are confident and Direct. Now if you throw in interesting and charming than you might get some where. As long as you don’t scare them off by appearing too clingy in the beginning.

Your right they do like to be pursued. They want it to be fun and amazing and magical and they want a pony. They want rainbows and waterfalls. They want Prince CHARMING! Not a Clingy little guy humping their leg.

If you make it natural and charming and sprinkle DJ dust on them than yes they will care. They will appreciate you. If you are constantly chasing them than you are always the mouse. She will remain the cat and in the end she will eat you and Sh!t you out into a Little ball of furry AFC.

7. I don't want to talk about this form of DA anymore. This is my thread and I wanted to open up the discussion of DA. I don't mean this form of it. BUT everyone on here seems to dwell on it and diss every other form. Using the Macho Alpha Crap saying this DA makes you a Man... Blah blah blah.

All crap. This Approach or any other doesn't make you anything. You are what you are and there is nothing you can do to change that. We need to get out of our heads. Nobody is better than anybody else. Believing like that is the grounds of ignorance. This DA will not make you a better man. This isn't being real. Being real is understanding Social Dynamics and acting accordingly.

8. How can you say I am closed minded about it when I have a whole post about it? I down it, but I am not closed to it. From bringing up this topic I have learned a lot about it. I have realized what it is that makes you guys like it. I took away the reminder of how important body language is. If some guys can use this method and still PU. Than it had to be body language or Desperate girls 'cause this method sucks.

Changing up isn't necessary it is natural. Every situation is different. SO not using different conversation openers is Unnatural. It does not HAVE to be anything. Why do you keep insisting that it has to be simple, short, and to the point? Can't you just make it fun and interesting?

Again I am not ragging on the guy. I wish he would open his eyes and change up his DA. He could have so much more fun and interesting experiences if he just didn't DA like he is. Instead of trying to pick them up, he could be having fun with them. Getting to know them. And in the end if a relationship formed even better.

But right now He is opening and closing sets like doors. He doesn't even knock first. Walks up, Turns handle, See's if somebody is in there that finds him instantly attractive, and than closes the door. boring.

It is like he is searching for that Magical; Lipton Instant Love. Something worth so much value doesn't come easy or simple. You have to work and save for it. You have to build on the little to make a lot. It takes time, effort, skill, and thought. Not just running through the numbers.

 

[Derek Flint]

Body Language is a part of it, but so is what and how you say it.

Speaking slowly, confidently, with the correct tonality, eye contact, body language and with the attitude that her ass is already yours.

Yes, that ass is mine. It belongs to me. I f'ckin own it, I'm going to tap it, and she's going to love it.

I'm gonna f*** her like she owes me money, and she's gonna absolutely love it.

And smile and be sincere. If you are sincere, honest, upfront and non-manipulative, girls will follow your lead and be/do the same.

Too many guys rush thru the opener, which shows nervousness and insecurity.

If you're not calm, and are nervous, she will be as well.

And always get her number, don't give her yours and expect her to call.

You are the Man, it is your job to lead. Always.

Direct/Natural game rules, and it creates instant massive attraction when done correctly because it does take balls to do a DA and to do it right.

Chicks dig it. They will light up when done correctly, and you won't get that kind of reaction asking if she flosses before or after brushing.

But doing it correctly takes practice and learning from your rejections.

A lot of girls at first will tell you they have boyfriends, but the more you approach and practice, the less number of boyfriends these girls will seem to have. :yes:

Take her by the hand, gaze into her eyes, smile and tell her slowly and with confidence that she is exceptionally beautiful and that it will be really cool for the two of you to know each other. Then start qualifying her to let her know that she doesn't get a free pass just because of her looks. Build comfort and rapport. Don't hit and run. It doesn't work like that.

And none of this "Hey baby, you lookin' fly. I would dig gettin' wit you" BS

Show class, respect, be sincere, be direct, be confident, let her know your intentions are to be more than just friends.

Results will vary, but the more you practice out in the field, the better results you will get if you learn from your approaches.

And yes, I've had girls tell me that no one has ever approached them in such a manner and that it is great when someone does instead of beating around the bush with opinion openers and such when these women damn well know why we are approaching them.

Indirect lowers your value, because it shows that you are not ballsy enough to unapologetically state your intentions and to go for what you want.

Again, women know why we approach them, and it's not because we are curious as to who lies more, men or women, or if she brushes before or after she flosses or if David Bowie is hot or any of those tired indirect openers.

There is nothing sexy or attractive about hiding your interest or intentions. Nothing.

9's and dimes have plenty of guys chasing them. They are not going to waste time chasing a guy who acts coy and too cool for his own good when they have 10 other options.

Unless you are a super high value guy like a Rock Star or an A-list actor, it ain't gonna happen.