Dealing with Douche-bags on date [VID]

[Mr.SomeoneElse]

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I uploaded this video just because I wanted to show you guys. From a pua/dj point of view its possibly one of the most painful things to watch also very informative. How it demonstrates girls rational mind vs instinctual, that part I thought was really cool.

• What would you have done in this situation?
• Has something like this ever happened to you?
• How far in/at one point would you have done something?

 

[TRSX]

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[Mr.SomeoneElse]

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FUUUUUUAAAACCKKKKK
I spent an HOUR uploading that

 

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[In2theGame]

lol that was a good video.

 

[Fly By Night]

OUCH! That was extremely painful to watch
But I have to ask: If he fought and lost, would his date still have lost interest in him?

What would you have done in this situation?
Well I've only been in one actual fight in my life, but if someone is talking down to me I'm going to stand up for myself. When he started talking about beating my ass, I would of called him a puss for talking **** with his boys around.

Has something like this ever happened to you?
I've been threatened in grade school and backed down before. Happened again in high school but then I shoved the guy into a locker and threatened him back. He stopped talking **** about me since then.

How far in/at one point would you have done something?
I would have stood up to face him standing up once he started showing off his scars from previous fights, because if he is going to jump me I certainly don't want to be in a chair with my movement restricted.

 

[spang]

wow...as soon as he said he wanted to kick my ass i would have acted quickly and decisively. i would have got up and been like "hell no get away from the table and back to your friends, back off. you dont disrepect me or my girl." if he wants to take it further thats up to him. that was louie's main mistake...he flinched, he stalled, and he did nothing. am i right?
luckily that has never happened to me. im a pretty big guy, so no one has ever seriously threatened me or wanted to fight me. granted i know little about martial arts and am an average boxer.
i think the point i would have done something is where he puts his hand in my face for the handshake. hes just giving you hand which is a mistake. i would have grabbed his hand, stood up, and shoved him out the door and locked it. (standing up is important because he no longer has the high ground.) and if his friends decide they want to jump on me, i got some hot coffee still on the table for their eyeballs.
of course even if i lost to like 5 guys, it still shows great courage.

 

[Mr.SomeoneElse]

^ Both you made great points.

I couldn't help cringe when I was watching that, so painful to see.
If I spectated that it'd be hard not to step in.
After watching that I knew I had to upload it and post in on here.
I feel like it demonstrates SO much about what we talk about, social cues, body language, what woman think vs what they feel.

It's nice to hear opinions on it because your right.
This is such a grey area on what to do, when to do it, how to handle it, it's not something that we're taught in grade school to deal with, but this **** DOES happen and it's important to mentally have a game plan.

 

[Mike32ct]

I know heindsight is 20/20, but just seeing a large group of loud disruptive punks AND no manager in sight (or DOING THEIR JOB) to kick them out....

Would it have been so bad to just leave?

Common sense tells you that nothing good will come from verbally confronting a group of punks.

Would you tell a loud aggressive group on the subway to quiet down? HELL NO. Move to another end of the car or get off at the next stop or something to get away from drama you don't need. I understand that this a restaurant or coffee shop, but the principle is much the same.

I think the best approach would have been...

Guy: "This is getting really disruptive. This sh*t is getting on my nerves. I know a better quieter place up the street."

Female: "Umm ok."

Pay the check, take her by the hand and leave.

He could have avoided a lot of BS and still not lost face. (Or at least lost far FEWER points that having to beg a bully for mercy.)

I don't think it's so much that you have to be a fighter, but you have to man of ACTION that LOOKS OUT for her and yourself.

A big part of "game" that is not talked about is looking out for you and your date. You have to have your sixth sense fine-tuned to try to anticipate danger and/or bs BEFORE it happens. I would think that women would respect you for "avoiding potential danger." But once the danger starts, if you run or back down, THEN you are a p*ssy in her eyes.

Most punks need an "EXCUSE" to hit you. While it was honorable that he told them to quiet down, he just kicked the hornets' nest when he did that and gave this guy a partial "excuse" to escalate.

 

[BPH]

What would you have done in this situation?

I probably would have started yelling at him to get the attention of the staff and gotten up and prepared to fight.

Has something like this ever happened to you?

Yes. I was scrawny in middle school and had a bully my freshman year of high school. Since then I've bulked up and played a lot of football. Kinda destroyed my fear in any one on one confrontation.

How far in/at one point would you have done something?

Probably as soon as he asked me when the last time I got my @$$ kicked.

 

[ScottMustaine]

When he told ' I feel like punching you '

i would go instant on legs ,scream and I FEEL LIKE ****ING YOU / YOUR MOTHER IN THE ASS and maybe punch him depending on his moves.

I'm quite paranoid and aggressive so it would really take really little time.
If I would remain silent, paranoia would kick in and agression would fade, which in turn would make feel like epic *****.

 

[Robert28]

the little teenage kid looks like either he is A) a meth head with all those scars on his hands and on his face or B) that fight he claimed to have been in must have not gone too well for him.lol

I would have never shaken his hand (instant disrespect towards him and to let him know I'm not someone to fvck with even though he would have probably got all whiny and started his little speech earlier then he did).

I've not been in many fights in my life BUT i do know that 99.9999% of the time, guys that act like the teenage guy are the biggest pu**ies! i've seen guys like him actually cry when the sh*t finally hit the fan. next thing you know they find Jesus and become a youth minister or something. no lie.

I would have said something to the effect of "that sure is a cute little jacket you're wearing there." anything for him to make the first move so that I could go ape sh!t on him and not get charged with assault. the cops are going to believe a pretty woman over some pimply teenagers when it comes to witnesses anyways.

the best thing to do though was probably get up as soon as he began his little speech and tell the woman "hey, fvck this place, I know somewhere better where they don't allow people with a curfew." and when that guy said something i would have stepped to him, looked him straight in the eye with a smile, and said "have a nice night, Jr."

 

[Robert28]

another thing you could have done is when he offered his hand to shake yours, don't shake it, but squeeze the ever living piss out of his fingers with your hand and he will drop to his knees. then YOU start making HIM do the begging. when someone is squeezing the sh!t out of your fingers together like that, bone on bone, you'll suck a donkey d*ck if they tell you to because it hurts so bad.

 

[PapiChulo]

One well placed punch or elbow in the mouth and you run from there. Hopefully the punks don't get you.

 

[Zippapants]

What would you have done in this situation?

I would've quietly asked them if they could tone it down a bit. If for some reason he approached me and my date and threatened me, I would hit him with the line I usually give guys who try to start things with me: "You can try."

I have a habit of observing my surroundings wherever I am in case of a fight. Though I am trained for MMA fighting, this would be a street brawl, and I'd imagine his buddies would try to get in it. I would use the environment to the best of my advantage in this case.

Has something like this ever happened to you?

Growing up, I was always a pretty heavy kid, so I got picked on a lot and had to defend myself several times. Sometimes I'd win, other times... a few of them would walk away hurting at least haha. In high school, I was 6'6" and over 425 lbs., but I still had some muscle and was surprisingly fast for my size. Was in a few fights, but no situations like this.

Since I've dropped the weight (over 200 lbs.) and put on a crapload of muscle, I tend to be more intimidating these days. I was out on a date once and some kids were loud, but when I asked them if they could be a bit quieter, they apologized and things were fine.

How far in/at one point would you have done something?

When the kid came to the table is when I would've geared up for something, and especially when he waved his hand in the woman's face.

 

[Greasy Pig]

One punch can kill, so there's no way I'd risk knocking the guy out and being sent to prison with "Bubba" as my cell and shower mate.

I'd just walk away but if there was no other option, I'd fight like my life depended on it.

I think this shows that every guy should at least do some basic training in case you're confronted like this.

I only did 10 weeks of boxing training and although I'd never seek to fight, I think even the most basic boxing techniques would stand you in great stead in most street situations.

 

[Mr.SomeoneElse]

I was 6'6" and over 425 lbs.,
Since I've dropped the weight (over 200 lbs.)

Congrats on the weight loss bro, must feel good.


A lot of you made good suggestions,
I can't see how hitting him and running would look good haha
Like I said this is one of those grey areas, its pretty ridiculous on what to do
He's got his friends there, you're on a date with a lady to protect

Personally I've been in boxing throughout all of highschool, I generally have a pretty short fuse as is, which im trying to fix, but the fact that ive been in fights and know how to take a punch is a huge improvement.

When I was in middleschool I was scared ****less of fights, I would avoid them at all costs, even though I skateboarded and fell on my ass/took beatings from that all the time, I was for some reason afraid of a punch.
After I got in my first fight and felt how weak some people ( untrained ) hit, it was revolutionary.
I honestly think every man should get in a fight as an adult, even if its just with a friend or whatever, its just good to know.


As for game, I think its important to make sure your date feels safe, so I would do whatever it takes to ensure that. Aside from that, I also have a problem with defamation of character, so if someone verbally says something about myself, I get the respect back before it goes too far.
Tricky situation for this guy though, for sure.

 

[Aristippus]

This scenario could be avoided by simply not being so aggressive in the beginning. You just tell the girlfriend that the guys in the background are annoying and that you want to change scenery.

It's usually pretty easy to avoid situations when you use your head and avoid being disrespectful. Also, the funny thing is, when you have some training in martial arts or any kind of hand to hand combat, and you know you could do some damage, you try to avoid using it unless you're just forced to.

If you ever have to injure someone to protect yourself, as soon as it's over, you leave immediately. You don't hang around. And you don't show your face at that particular venue again. (To avoid future problems).

 

[SoSuave666]

Brutal to watch, but the situation is easily avoidable. My recommendation is to avoid fights at all costs...they should be a last resort (I don't always follow my own advice).

Anyway, I've been in my fair share of fights, both provoked and unprovoked. You would be amazed at how misinformed people are about fighting.

1.) People in general have no idea how to defend kicks.

2.) Knees, groin, throat, kidneys, and gut are all easily accessible hotspots that people tend to neglect in a fight. Inexperienced fighters only attack the face.

3.) Be aware of your surroundings. Use whatever you have to use to your advantage.

4.) Always assume that the person across from you has a weapon. If he pulls it on you, assume he will use it and back off. Personally I've had knives pulled on me. Never got one used on me as it's not worth the risk. Could I have disarmed? Perhaps, but I'm not going to risk my life over a noise complaint/bar fight. I've also known someone who has been stabbed for fighting back. It's only worth the risk if it's your only option to fight back (you are cornered, fighting multiple people, or the person you are with is involved too deep).

5.) Most people neglect defense. ALWAYS defend yourself. A few deflected punches by your opponent will tire him out. In comparison, a few of his weak deflected punches do far less damage than a flush hit to a hotspot by you. This isn't a boxing match, your goal isn't to win the scorecards.

 

[BPH]

Brutal to watch, but the situation is easily avoidable. My recommendation is to avoid fights at all costs...they should be a last resort (I don't always follow my own advice).

Anyway, I've been in my fair share of fights, both provoked and unprovoked. You would be amazed at how misinformed people are about fighting.

1.) People in general have no idea how to defend kicks.

2.) Knees, groin, throat, kidneys, and gut are all easily accessible hotspots that people tend to neglect in a fight. Inexperienced fighters only attack the face.

3.) Be aware of your surroundings. Use whatever you have to use to your advantage.

4.) Always assume that the person across from you has a weapon. If he pulls it on you, assume he will use it and back off. Personally I've had knives pulled on me. Never got one used on me as it's not worth the risk. Could I have disarmed? Perhaps, but I'm not going to risk my life over a noise complaint/bar fight. I've also known someone who has been stabbed for fighting back. It's only worth the risk if it's your only option to fight back (you are cornered, fighting multiple people, or the person you are with is involved too deep).

5.) Most people neglect defense. ALWAYS defend yourself. A few deflected punches by your opponent will tire him out. In comparison, a few of his weak deflected punches do far less damage than a flush hit to a hotspot by you. This isn't a boxing match, your goal isn't to win the scorecards.

Any more fighting advice? I'm a karate black belt but I don't think most of these techniques would come in handy in a brawl or if somebody were trying to tackle me.

I was afraid of fighting when I was in 8th and 9th grade and now that I've bulked up and played some football I feel like I could take and deal some damage. But I'd like to hear some more tips from you.