Date from Yesterday - Women are getting worse!

[betheman]

Not every interaction needs to end in a bang at all costs - the qualifying cuts both ways on a date, or at least it should. Seriously, I think you're wired a bit differently to a lot of us, and that's fine Zarky. I know from your posting history that you really get off on the novelty of new pvssy - standards be damned! That's not really a diss - I get that it's your thing.

Speaking for myself (and only myself), not so much, I've learned that I find it much more satisfying to fvck women I think are relatively decent human beings (granted, that does mean a lot less fvcking). Choices, consequences, all that jazz. Hell, maybe I'm the one who's wired differently.

As for the OP's particular situation, I don't subscribe to the idea that perfect game on a guy's part can turn an otherwise sh!tty date into a bang. Do you?

I agree with your post and values, however I do think Zarky was making a genuine point about learning from the experience, did the OP do something wrong/make a mistake which suddenly made this woman do a 180? it might be she was a total B1tch, but maybe something he said or did contributed? it can be very subtle, if he can identify the very point she lost interest and re trace his words/actions, there maybe a clue?

 

[Wilko]

I agree with your post and values, however I do think Zarky was making a genuine point about learning from the experience, did the OP do something wrong/make a mistake which suddenly made this woman do a 180? it might be she was a total B1tch, but maybe something he said or did contributed? it can be very subtle, if he can identify the very point she lost interest and re trace his words/actions, there maybe a clue?

Ha, maybe! I read the OP and instinctively chalked it up to two people rubbing each other the wrong way (now who's projecting hey?). Could be that he busted out some cheesy Mystery style magic tricks he's not telling us about Which reminds me, some friends of mine saw an older guy doing "magic" with some packets of sugar at a little hipster bar a few months ago, yeah, you can imagine how well that went down.

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

Just goes to show you guys how delusional and picky even an "older" woman can be. I generally say that women 35+ realize that they are not god's gift to men and act more down to earth. Obviously this one is an exception.

So a man who refuses to pay is "cheap" and a woman who refuses to pay is a "modern" "liberated" woman?

Go fucq yourself if you believe that.

"Liberation" doesn't end with "equal pay". It also means equal contribution. If a man pays, it is a GIFT. Not a requirement. So stuff it.

Personally, most women that I have went out with were good with the money issue. Most of the women I have been with still paid even though I offered. Money isn't the main problem I see with women in my neck of the woods. It is the general idea that nobody is good enough or attractive enough for them that is the main issue.

They refuse to date a guy with a similar level of attractiveness. They need a guy several inches taller who is far above average looks.

 

[zinc4]

Ha I bet you wouldn't have cared so much if she decided she liked you and wanted to go home with you.

It sucks but it was only $10, making her goto an ATM for $10 shows how much of a scab you are lol, I would of been more turned of by this! However that's nothing, try losing $150 to a chick who decides at the end she isn't into you after leading you on. You got off cheap but have lost her fo good

Trolling for d^ck as usual on a men's dating forum...how annoying....no one cares what you would be turned off by.....women like you shouldn't feel entitled to anything..if a woman isn't interested then at least she can pay her half...that is respectful and grownup acting...and even if she is interested it is respectful....people like you who expect free rides or freebies make me sick...

the OP probably did something wrong to turn her off before that, but that is another topic

and by the way, i actually don't mind paying for a woman out of my own good will, but it is a turn off when they expect it or feel entitled to it...

 

[zinc4]

because at $10 its not that big of a deal, get on with it, pay it, eat your pride, get over it. all i was saying is he probably wouldnt have got so upset about it if she had put out or something but because she decided she didnt like him she p1ssed off...**** happens. i would of just payed the $10 instead of looking like more of a jerk telling her to go to an ATM for $10 and because typically on dates the men pay for women, a $10 drink wouldnt have sent him broke. On the other side shes in fault too, she should of had cash on her and paid her own.

Either way $10 is nothing, im sure more guys have lost way more then $10 on girls.

Point is she was rude first and in the wrong, not the OP, unless he isn't telling us something....and your whole typically men pay reasoning is ridiculous logic.....stand on your own two feet for crying out loud....you probably also like to chirp about how women should be treated equally but at the same time cry foul if a man doesn't pay for her...

I don't know which one is more annoying, you or pink.

 

[Hydrak]

because at $10 its not that big of a deal, get on with it, pay it, eat your pride, get over it. all i was saying is he probably wouldnt have got so upset about it if she had put out or something but because she decided she didnt like him she p1ssed off...**** happens. i would of just payed the $10 instead of looking like more of a jerk telling her to go to an ATM for $10 and because typically on dates the men pay for women, a $10 drink wouldnt have sent him broke. On the other side shes in fault too, she should of had cash on her and paid her own.

Either way $10 is nothing, im sure more guys have lost way more then $10 on girls.

You obviously don't get it. It's the principle that matters here; I don't pay for someone who was rude to me. It doesn't matter if its 1$ or 100$, if that person is a self-centered human piece of garbage who wasn't taught manners as a kid, I'm not paying.

Besides, that was the ultimate embarassment for her. She is going to her favourite place expecting a free drink, gets turned down and soils her reputation at the place by bailing a 10$ bill.

I would of been more turned of by this

And why would it matter? The girl wasn't interested, why would he care if her IL went from lukewarm to freezing? Giving two negs (text, declining to pay) must have hurt her ego a fair bit, while OP improved his. Win win.

 

[typical]

You know what the sad part is that if this happened to me in a bar in NZ or Australia, the bartender wouldn't even ask the lady to pay, I would be forced to pay or the bouncers would get involved. Makes me hate all the white knighte phaggots downunder here.

 

[Desdinova]

If I were in that situation and she refused to pay for her own drink, I'd tell her, "Listen, it's not the 1940s. Thanks to the women's lib movement, women are empowered to get themselves a career and pay for their own things. So get your empowered ass over to the ATM and get cash for your own drink"

Some dates can go poorly. You can't always expect things to work out after a first date. I've had many, many one-date-wonders whom I didn't care to see again. They all paid for their own 5hit too and some even opted to pay for mine.

 

[PlayHer Man]

because at $10 its not that big of a deal, get on with it, pay it, eat your pride, get over it. all i was saying is he probably wouldnt have got so upset about it if she had put out or something but because she decided she didnt like him she p1ssed off...**** happens. i would of just payed the $10 instead of looking like more of a jerk telling her to go to an ATM for $10 and because typically on dates the men pay for women, a $10 drink wouldnt have sent him broke. On the other side shes in fault too, she should of had cash on her and paid her own.

Either way $10 is nothing, im sure more guys have lost way more then $10 on girls.

As a woman you will support any "standard" that benefits women. I'm sure you don't support women in the kitchen with no voting rights. Do you?

So why do you support "The man should pay" --> Because it benefits you :yes:

One thing I've learned in my 29 years on this planet is that the average woman only has "morals" then its convenient for her. Abuse a man because he made you feel bad? Chop off his junk because he cheated? Flake on dates because he is "creepy"? Its all fine. But a man not paying for a date because a woman is rude to him? Noooooo! We can't have that!! :crackup: :crackup:

There is no reason to get mad at you because your opinion will not change anyone's behavior. We as men have the choice to refuse to pay for entitled b!tches whether you like it or not.

MEN: Always do what's in your best interest. The approval of society / women is not necessary since most women are entitled and most men are p*ssy whipped white knight faggots. F*ck them and f*ck there stupid opinion. Do your thing.

 

[backbreaker]

37 year old women aren't signle becuase they are superior women role models lol

this is pretty much what you have to dig through at this point

i would have paid. for the simple fact that for me 10 bucks is not worth the scene

at the end of the day i've paid for plenty of dates that i never got any or i got shot down for. she was really cold and i dont' fault you for what you did but she was a ****

sometimes you just run into bad seeds. just take it on the chin and move on

 

[Reyaj]

Ok now I'm almost equally in shock... I just checked my POF message box and she messaged me the following:

"Hey, I wanted to apologize for last night. You caught me off guard when you asked to split the check."


Should I respond?

 

[5string]

Ok now I'm almost equally in shock... I just checked my POF message box and she messaged me the following:

"Hey, I wanted to apologize for last night. You caught me off guard when you asked to split the check."


Should I respond?

No response needed. What's done is done and you did the right thing. Let it go.

Some may disagree, but back in the day, if I asked a women out, I paid. Afterall, it was my idea.

And djgirl sits here and say to blow this off. Nope. You were disrespected brother. Never listen to an entitlement princess.

In my marriage, I manage the money, investments, make the house payment and otherwise pay the bills. Despite this, Mrs.5string buys the food, my clothes, shoes and all sort of other things. I'm ok with that. And you know what? I never have to ask her to do it. She just does.

When you find a woman like that, you have found a diamond.

Move on my friend. Find a gal who has a bit of common sense and an IQ greater than a 40 watt lightbulb.

Good luck.

 

[Purefilth]

Ok now I'm almost equally in shock... I just checked my POF message box and she messaged me the following:

"Hey, I wanted to apologize for last night. You caught me off guard when you asked to split the check."


Should I respond?

She has realised that she was a *****, and wants forgiveness now. Only to make herself feel better.
You made her pay, and at the same time showed you ain't gonna put up with her shiiit. Personally if I had the same situation, I wouldn't give her a response. Rudeness is not what I want from a woman, so next.
But I'm well aware that there are plenty of chicks out there and I van grab a new one pretty Much every week if I go out of my way to slay poon.

For you, it would seem like backpedaling if you were to give her another chance. It would show bad behaviour is acceptable if you're "caught off guard".

 

[cordoncordon]

If I were in that situation and she refused to pay for her own drink, I'd tell her, "Listen, it's not the 1940s. Thanks to the women's lib movement, women are empowered to get themselves a career and pay for their own things. So get your empowered ass over to the ATM and get cash for your own drink"

Some dates can go poorly. You can't always expect things to work out after a first date. I've had many, many one-date-wonders whom I didn't care to see again. They all paid for their own 5hit too and some even opted to pay for mine.

I think what everyone is missing is certainly if she had an ATM debit card to remove cash from an ATM machine, that means she had the means to pay for her drink using her debit card as well by just handing it to the bartender. She probably even had a credit card too. It's not like HAD to go walk to an ATM machine and take out cash to pay for this.

So she had the means to pay for the drink without going to an ATM machine, she just didn't want to.

Do not respond to her PM OP. She has proven she is a beoootch. Move on.

 

[zinc4]

You know what the sad part is that if this happened to me in a bar in NZ or Australia, the bartender wouldn't even ask the lady to pay, I would be forced to pay or the bouncers would get involved. Makes me hate all the white knighte phaggots downunder here.

Exactly what I was thinking......if that had happened to me around where i am from in the south east US...I just know the bartender would have told me i am paying or going to jail and depending on the person he would have tried to get his bouncers to beat the crap out of me if i didn't pay....in my experience, barstaff and bouncers especially are the biggest WKs of them all and are always itching for an unnecessary fight to prove themselves....

OP, you were seriously lucky you didn't get physically or legally threatened....bar staff people in general are *******s...with that being said, you did a great job sticking to your guns...

 

[Mike32ct]

I agree with PureFilth

 

[PlayHer Man]

Ok now I'm almost equally in shock... I just checked my POF message box and she messaged me the following:

"Hey, I wanted to apologize for last night. You caught me off guard when you asked to split the check."


Should I respond?

NO.

Women like to end relationships on their own terms. Their ego can't take rejection. She already showed her LACK of interest, LACK of sexual attraction, LACK of manners, and entitled b!tch attitude.

Her ego is bruised and she is only coming back for validation.

Like I said earlier... she is now a non-entity. This story is over and you should forget she exists. Spin plates, move on.

 

[casaanova]

A 37 year old woman didnt have any money on her? Obvious lie, but either way OP dodged a bullet with that one

 

[5string]

Could have waterboarded her until she coughed up the money.

 

[amazingdrummer]

that's why I hate dating, when man and woman embarrass themselves over 10$